Rodgers sends warning to unhappy players

[ParkerPen]

3 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

The point about running down contracts becoming the norm and players/agents pocketing the money is an interesting one.

 

I mean this as purely a general point, not specific to any clubs or players and not to be seen as ‘wishing injury upon anyone’ but maybe what is needed is some high profile cases of where a player has refused to sign a new contract does pick up an injury towards the end of the contract and find themselves in a position where the current club won’t resign them when they come crawling back and they can’t pick up a new club for a bit. Might at least help with the player power issues. Reality is they know they can half arse it and move on for big money…

we signed Bertrand anyway 👍

 

 

 

[volpeazzurro]

14 hours ago, moore_94 said:

He didn’t give him the armband, the players and staff as a whole did

As far as I was aware, it was always the manager/coach that picked the Captain? Not heard of players and staff deciding. Doubt Alex Ferguson allowed a team vote.

[STEVIE B]

Some of you talk about player's wages & pay structures etc.

Maybe it's naivety on my part, but do any of you actually know the details, if so how ? 

[Dahnsouff]

3 minutes ago, STEVIE B said:

Some of you talk about player's wages & pay structures etc.

Maybe it's naivety on my part, but do any of you actually know the details, if so how ? 

Some people are able to infer the subtlest truth from anything he may say, divine the hidden truths he seeks to cast shadow upon.....

 

So, no, much guessing usually from a point of opinion

[1884Man]

17 hours ago, lcfc_forever said:

In the Athletic, BR saying players who haven’t agreed a deal where their contract is expiring this Summer should be let go:

 

https://theathletic.com/4061909/2023/01/05/leicester-january-departures/

 

Also in the Mercury with similar quotes:
 

https://t.co/djBHPqd5RB
 

 

Shooting himself in the foot. Better to stay quiet. He obviously has job security .

 

[Dan]

9 hours ago, Chocolate Teapot said:

With FFP regulations and us needing to get to a 70% turnover to wage ratio I imagine we are offering players reductions in wages and they're not happy about it. The turnover ratio also includes the managers salary by the way (it may be 75% - can't specifically remember).

 

Understandably those players will assess their options and think there are greater possibilities elsewhere. Personally think the club should have let some players go for cheap just to get them out but they've clearly not done that and that maybe what Rodgers is hinting at.

 

Weve got complete stalemate, other clubs don't actually want the players at the prices we're asking - reportedly we wanted 25m in the summer for soyuncu. It's a mess and I think we're being naive but it's important to remember Rodgers doesn't agree the contracts or set the asking prices. Needs to be sorted out very soon.

This is just the madness of what's going on. If we had no intention of using him at all this season (which bar a couple of games we haven't) we should be happy to take half of that. Just totally disjointed thinking and it's this kind of thing that makes me think the ineptness runs beyond the manager.

[Beachyboy]

2 hours ago, LCFCJohn said:

The point about running down contracts becoming the norm and players/agents pocketing the money is an interesting one.

 

I mean this as purely a general point, not specific to any clubs or players and not to be seen as ‘wishing injury upon anyone’ but maybe what is needed is some high profile cases of where a player has refused to sign a new contract does pick up an injury towards the end of the contract and find themselves in a position where the current club won’t resign them when they come crawling back and they can’t pick up a new club for a bit. Might at least help with the player power issues. Reality is they know they can half arse it and move on for big money…

If the player is of enough quality, age is right, even if they had an injury for a year they could still find a club. They would just need to do an Eriksson. Sign for a Brentford type club for 6 months, prove themselves again and move on.

[LCFCJohn]

3 hours ago, ParkerPen said:

we signed Bertrand anyway 👍

 

 

 

Touche 

[LCFCJohn]

19 minutes ago, Beachyboy said:

If the player is of enough quality, age is right, even if they had an injury for a year they could still find a club. They would just need to do an Eriksson. Sign for a Brentford type club for 6 months, prove themselves again and move on.

True, was thinking like lost earnings cancelling out the greed of the agents but as you say, probably still worth their while. Unlike lower league players who would be devastating for them being without clubs.

[Bourbon Fox]

5 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Rodgers talks about having a small squad, but he doesn't mean in numbers - even he can't be that stupid when we are one of only 6 PL clubs to name a full 25 man maximum squad, he means in those he trusts and wants. This is the issue, he only likes about 16 of this squad and talks about many going but then a good chunk of the others we've seemingly offered new contracts to, have we all had our tea laced with LCD or is this club off their fcukin boncer? 

I nearly spat my tea out at 'small squad'

 

No Brendan, we have a small pool of your first team choices for the three reasons that 

 

1. Your mate Lee and his predecessors spunked fat ropes of cash on some absolute charlatans

 

2. You mysteriously refused to pick a whole bunch of card-carrying internationals, presumably because you're unable/unwilling to flex your philosophy to suit the tools you have

 

and possibly because of 1. and 2. - 3. we have consistently topped the injury charts for the last 2 years.

 

Tw@

Edited 6 January 2023 by Bourbon Fox

[Tuna]

Not only do we struggle to sign players in we can't seem to move on our unwanted players, just smacks of a complete shambles all round!

Edited 6 January 2023 by Tuna

[RumbleFox]

4 hours ago, STEVIE B said:

Some of you talk about player's wages & pay structures etc.

Maybe it's naivety on my part, but do any of you actually know the details, if so how ? 

Naaaaah, we know fvck all. We’re just bored and simple and like to slag people off. 

[RobHawk]

I'm not where all the vitriol is coming from. 

 

Surely this is a case of drawing a line in the sand and saying to those players that if they don't want to accept what's on offer then it's time to go and try your luck elsewhere. 

 

We really don't know the ins and outs, imagine if big Dan after a few years being in the first team wanted £100k a week. 

 

I like big Dan but he would not be worth those wages, so he either accepts what we are offering or tries his luck elsewhere. 

 

Surely that's the message to those players, obviously a lot will sit there until the summer but there's no harm in putting a bit of pressure on. The grass isn't always greener on the other side.

[sacreblueits442]

14 hours ago, Lambert09 said:

this bits interesting.  Clearly there are a few players that have asked for big money, my guess would be soyuncu. The fact we made an offer late in the day shows that he was still open to staying, i think half of this situation has been down to him not budging on what he wants. 

 

Surely rodgers can’t be purely keeping him out because of performance. Even the biggest grudges would fade after some of the batterings we took this season. 

 

 

personally i’d be offering big dan a contract and trying everything to persuade youri…but it’s time to go for the rest of them 

 

...I  cannot imagine Soyuncu looking for a big raise to stay here!!!

  Everything about his body language screams that he wants to get away from here. Not getting game time and the way he has been marginalised,  does not lend itself to a player who wants to be here.

[sacreblueits442]

10 hours ago, Stevosevic said:

I actually agree with him on this one. 

...who wouldn't,  this is the mantra of all football supporters, if you do not want to be here then you can go. In this instance, Rodgers is stating the obvious!!!

  I just wish he applies the same ideal to Tielemans. If it applies to one, it applies to all.

[yorkie1999]

17 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...who wouldn't,  this is the mantra of all football supporters, if you do not want to be here then you can go. In this instance, Rodgers is stating the obvious!!!

  I just wish he applies the same ideal to Tielemans. If it applies to one, it applies to all.

He is, but the point is he’s saying it in public, not behind closed doors where it means jack, what he’s actually doing is protecting himself, informing the fans of what’s cracking off as well as telling the players that if they ain’t happy with their lot, fvck off and find a job somewhere else and I don’t blame him.

[sacreblueits442]

9 hours ago, filbertway said:

Unfortunately the squad is packed with players that we either didn't want to sell or other clubs either didn't want or couldn't afford.

 

An elite DOF worth their salt wouldn't have let us get into this position

...Rudkin is not an elite DoF, just an Academy Director promoted to a position because of his knowledge of the club, and the  lack of knowledge by the new owners. He has performed as well as you could expect and has tended to pay over the top prices and offered better contracts to bring players to this club.

 The arrival of Rodgers would have had an effect on how he (Rudkin) went about doing his job, as Rodgers was allowed an input into acquisition and restructuring the club throughout the age group.

  You have to give the manager support and if Rudkin had said no to Vestergaard,  Bertrand or any player Rodgers deemed that he needed, the system would collapse. We are now taking back control of a system that previously worked for us, it is a little too late, because damages have been done.

Edited 6 January 2023 by sacreblueits442
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[Guest Bob Hazels shorts]

£25m contract for a player who is constantly in the bottom 3 of various media supporter game ratings for good reason 

 

1st name on the team sheet and BR wants a player of similar quality to mirror him

 

The clubs broken 

[volpeazzurro]

10 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...who wouldn't,  this is the mantra of all football supporters, if you do not want to be here then you can go. In this instance, Rodgers is stating the obvious!!!

  I just wish he applies the same ideal to Tielemans. If it applies to one, it applies to all.

He should have gone a long time ago. 

[Oldblueyes]

What would have been a different  approach  is if Top had made this statement instead of just  Rodgers. It would draw a definite line in the sand to everyone.

Edited 7 January 2023 by Oldblueyes
Revised last word

[Supergray22]

1 hour ago, Oldblueyes said:

What would have been a different  approach  is if Top had made this statement instead of just  Rodgers. It would draw a definite line in the sand to everyone.

I think that is a good observation but one that could be applied to other senior personnel such as Rudkin and Susan rather than the last resort of the owner. We know that football at the top level is increasingly run like a typical business but in many ways it still retains many of its old ways. More like the Crown than the Apprentice or peaky blinders 😀

Edited 7 January 2023 by Supergray22

[sacreblueits442]

4 hours ago, Supergray22 said:

I think that is a good observation but one that could be applied to other senior personnel such as Rudkin and Susan rather than the last resort of the owner. We know that football at the top level is increasingly run like a typical business but in many ways it still retains many of its old ways. More like the Crown than the Apprentice or peaky blinders 😀

...Top would never come out and say something like this!!!

 First and foremost the club is said to be cultivating a family club ideal and Top would see every player as someone who wants to be here, and that is why players are surprisingly given extended contracts and are looked after, even when they are no longer contracted the club.

[Supergray22]

20 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...Top would never come out and say something like this!!!

 First and foremost the club is said to be cultivating a family club ideal and Top would see every player as someone who wants to be here, and that is why players are surprisingly given extended contracts and are looked after, even when they are no longer contracted the club.

All true but I didn’t suggest Top would?

[Dahnsouff]

25 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...Top would never come out and say something like this!!!

 First and foremost the club is said to be cultivating a family club ideal and Top would see every player as someone who wants to be here, and that is why players are surprisingly given extended contracts and are looked after, even when they are no longer contracted the club.

Would he bugger,  he isn’t a moron. 

[FrankieADZ]

think Rodgers needs a warning himself tbf