This club is becoming a joke

[hackneyfox]

8 minutes ago, Le Renard said:

I don't give a tom tit about other clubs, why would I! 

Because you have to compare us to similar clubs, if you’re incapable of that you’re just whining for no reason.

[urban fox]

not sure what some people expect. If the club come out and say, righto, we want to sign player x and player Y, then we are alerting others of our plans and the possible availability of said players, selling clubs hike their price and we end up with neither.

If they say, well we are skint, cant pay the wages etc, nobody will want to come (would you quit a decent stable job to go to another employer who has just said they are skint and have to reduce staff?)

When was the last time any TV/radio commentators went and interviewed the club directors/owners..... It is usual for the manager/coach to be the one they turn to for information, otherwise they, like everyone else rely on official press releases.

It was made pretty clear that we needed to move players on before we could make any new signings in the summer, both from a point of view of available funds (we bought several the previous year without letting anyone go, which most people at the time were well chuffed with) and not falling foul of FFP etc.

As for the stadium expansion, we know that planning has been granted but that does not mean that the diggers will be turning up tomorrow. There will still be lots of detailed planning to do, tender documents to prepare, contractors to appoint and another thousand and one legalities and other details to be put in place. Any major development of that size takes months, if not years to actually get going after the initial planning is granted.

I know the whole point of forums such as this are to promote discussion and a place to opine, and even to vent the odd spleen etc, but surely, unless somebody is told something by somebody senior at the club, then everything else is pure speculation. The clubs financial accounts are a matter of public record, and of course people can read into them what they will (whist mostly having absolutely no idea of company accounting procedures, or business finances) but i really do not get why people think our club are somehow being secretive, or not telling us what is happening etc.

Any business that openly makes details of their strategies and operations public, thereby letting their competitors take an advantage in the market place, will not stay in business for long

[Le Renard]

56 minutes ago, hackneyfox said:

Because you have to compare us to similar clubs, if you’re incapable of that you’re just whining for no reason.

Yep you are right I am whining for no reason, you are so insightful. I wish I could be just like you!

 

P.s. I think it is "moaning about the club".

 

 

Edited 19 January 2023 by Le Renard

[hackneyfox]

5 minutes ago, Le Renard said:

Yep you are right I am whining for no reason, you are so insightful. I wish I could be just like you!

 

P.s. I think it is "moaning about the club".

 

 

No, you’re a whiner not a moaner.

Moaners complain about something that may be based on a truth, you’re just whining about the club failing to do something that no other club does.

[An Sionnach]

The club isn't a joke but it is the end of an era , with the decline of Vardy , Evans and the fall of Ndidi , we were always going to find it much harder. It could be quite a while before we have an upward phase. We will have to get used to it. We do need a new start mind you and changes from the top(sic.) down.

[SkidsFox]

People are concentrating (quite rightly) on the lack of new signings lately. What concerns me is that (with the exception of Faes) we've not managed to integrate any signings into the first team squad for a long time. The likes of Bertrand, Under, Lookman etc have all ended up being viewed as not suitable. Even players like Praet, Perez and Soumare have hardly set our world on fire. Is it just down to the boss, or the club?

[Le Renard]

42 minutes ago, hackneyfox said:

No, you’re a whiner not a moaner.

Moaners complain about something that may be based on a truth, you’re just whining about the club failing to do something that no other club does.

You're such a bright spark, you are so right.  I bet your s**t even stinks of roses!

[hackneyfox]

1 hour ago, Le Renard said:

You're such a bright spark, you are so right.  I bet your s**t even stinks of roses!

Do you want a sample, just post your bank details and mother’s maiden name.

[hackneyfox]

1 hour ago, Le Renard said:

You're such a bright spark, you are so right.  I bet your s**t even stinks of roses!

You don’t take well to a bit of slight criticism do you, try and put that right before you start working at the perfume factory.

[Shipman Out]

On 18/01/2023 at 13:30, Line-X said:

Don't get uptight with me, man. Cos if you do, I'll have to give you a dose of medicine. And if I spike you, you'll know you've been spoken to.

Balls! I’ll swallow it and run a mile 

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

On 19/01/2023 at 19:13, SkidsFox said:

People are concentrating (quite rightly) on the lack of new signings lately. What concerns me is that (with the exception of Faes) we've not managed to integrate any signings into the first team squad for a long time. The likes of Bertrand, Under, Lookman etc have all ended up being viewed as not suitable. Even players like Praet, Perez and Soumare have hardly set our world on fire. Is it just down to the boss, or the club?

We really need his physicality back in the team imo. There’s a player there and he’s looked quite good at times this season. He’s a young lad and hope we persist, but I don’t have confidence in developing him under the current regime.

[Spiritwalker]

I agree we need some physicality in the team but hoping Soumare will provide it is wishful thinking imo.

He seems to play at a different pace to everyone else on the pitch, slow thinking and slow moving.

Another signing that hasn’t worked out.

[Fox1norfolk]

On 19/01/2023 at 19:13, SkidsFox said:

People are concentrating (quite rightly) on the lack of new signings lately. What concerns me is that (with the exception of Faes) we've not managed to integrate any signings into the first team squad for a long time. The likes of Bertrand, Under, Lookman etc have all ended up being viewed as not suitable. Even players like Praet, Perez and Soumare have hardly set our world on fire. Is it just down to the boss, or the club?

Bad judgement starts with the clubs scouts

[OatcakeFox]

1 hour ago, Fox1norfolk said:

Bad judgement starts with the clubs scouts

Bob a job week never sat well with me, but the rest I thought was pretty good.

[FoxinNotts]

At least we’re not Everton

[UHDrive]

8 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said:

At least we’re not Everton

They'll be saying the same about us when we get relegated and Sean Dyche has saved them.

[Livid]

2 minutes ago, UHDrive said:

They'll be saying the same about us when we get relegated and Sean Dyche has saved them.

We look at them and think what a mess that club is in, we’re separated by three points and goal difference 

[Guest Col city fan]

Quite a few clubs are really going through the shite at the moment. West Ham near to parting with Moyes, us, Palace no

longer thriving under Viera.

But the biggest joke club has to be Everton.

Another manager sacked and now linked with Bielsa ffs!

Bielsa is reputedly a bit of a footballing genius. But what he ISNT is a fire-fighting manager who would come in to turn an ailing team around to avoid relegation.

He’s a longer-term, get the players around to his way of thinking type of manager. 
What they need now is an Allardyce type I think. Someone to stop goals going in their end and who’ll kick their players up the arse.

That’s not Bielsa.

NB watch him come in now and lead them safely to mid table!

 

[Adster]

Just ****ING SIGN SOME MORE PLAYERS FFS

[murphy]

Usually, during transfer windows there is a thread for the amateur accountants to talk about the clubs finances etc,  Can't see one this time so I'll put this question here:  Could someone please explain to me how it is that we are so skint yet sit third from bottom of the league table of net spend over the last five years?  Only Bournemouth and Brentford have a lower net spend and that is because they spent most of that time outslde the PL.

 

Have we overstretched ourselves with that white elephant at Seagrave?

 

Or perhaps because our once enviable conveyor belt of assets has ground to a halt with Cags, Youri and Madders running down contracts, Ndidi forgetting how to be a footballer and persistent injuries to JJ and Ricardo?  All this compounded by being totally Congertoned in our recent transfer activity and not improving the team one jot in three consecutive windows and cannot shift the parasites that are content to sacrifice their careers to steal a wage.

 

Or are we just reckless with wages?

 

I don't know.  It just seems odd that we are on our uppers having spent the least in the PL.

[An Sionnach]

6 minutes ago, murphy said:

Or are we just reckless with wages?

We have to be competitive on wages at least but we overpay to attract and retain.  £100 million a year is a lot of money but I am afraid we will struggle to get that down.

[Jono1604]

7 minutes ago, murphy said:

Usually, during transfer windows there is a thread for the amateur accountants to talk about the clubs finances etc,  Can't see one this time so I'll put this question here:  Could someone please explain to me how it is that we are so skint yet sit third from bottom of the league table of net spend over the last five years?  Only Bournemouth and Brentford have a lower net spend and that is because they spent most of that time outslde the PL.

 

Have we overstretched ourselves with that white elephant at Seagrave?

 

Or perhaps because our once enviable conveyor belt of assets has ground to a halt with Cags, Youri and Madders running down contracts, Ndidi forgetting how to be a footballer and persistent injuries to JJ and Ricardo?  All this compounded by being totally Congertoned in our recent transfer activity and not improving the team one jot in three consecutive windows and cannot shift the parasites that are content to sacrifice their careers to steal a wage.

 

Or are we just reckless with wages?

 

I don't know.  It just seems odd that we are on our uppers having spent the least in the PL.

Very good point ! And why also if this club is supposedly well run why was Rogers under the impression he was allowed to contact and line up players to bring in the summer for a well needed rebuild for the team only to be told in July the pot was suddenly empty highly embarrasing for him and surey he was given the impression there was money there by the club originally in talks !

[murphy]

5 minutes ago, An Sionnach said:

We have to be competitive on wages at least but we overpay to attract and retain.  £100 million a year is a lot of money but I am afraid we will struggle to get that down.

If it is the case that our wage bill is too high then I would call that reckless.  Our recent success should have been enough to attract and retain players ahead of anyone outside the big six and we would be mad to try to compete with them anyway.  If it is wages and other similar sized and slightly bigger clubs are not in the same position, then that has to go down as mismanagement for me.

[markko]

This is my take on the situation. CS has no future here if BR is in charge. We could sell now (if he agrees to go) or he can negotiate with a foreign club or just leave in the summer. YT is an interesting one for me. He is in the same boat as CS. I am sure another team will take him but let's be honest there does not seem to he queue to take him at the moment. I honestly do not think he will move to a top six club here. He wants to play all the time he won't do that even if he does get his move. I would not be surprised if he stays. If he does the.club has protected their investment. Maddison is top quality. When he came back on Saturday he initially looked tentative but then he just swaggered around and looked dangerous. I don't think we can let him go now because we need him to help keep us up but if he is not going to extend his deal we will have to in the summer. IMO he is good enough for top 6 team. We have missed him so much. We are going to need to do a lot of work in the summer to address the squad including another striker. Vardy's decline was always going to happen but it is painful to watch. He is my absolute hero and I do not want my memory of.him tainted by this season and next. If we need anyone in the trenches it's him and I hope he can started banging in some goals.

[An Sionnach]

4 minutes ago, murphy said:

If it is the case that our wage bill is too high then I would call that reckless.  Our recent success should have been enough to attract and retain players ahead of anyone outside the big six and we would be mad to try to compete with them anyway.  If it is wages and other similar sized and slightly bigger clubs are not in the same position, then that has to go down as mismanagement for me.

The success of the past helped for a while but soon fades. We are not considered a "sexy" club for many aspiring young footballers. To be honest in my many years of following we rarely have been. Leicester itself has a workaday rather dull reputation, an image it has cultivated for centuries by the way. Money is the only real tool we have to overcome this.