Top & KP - In or Out?

[Stadt]

23 minutes ago, Phil Mitchell said:

It’s not even a split fanbase, this poll is 80% remain and this is foxestalk. Disturbing. Phil

The OP was from 2023, dredged it up as it was the ableist KP out thread I could find

[JonnyBoy]

On 07/03/2023 at 13:35, Finnegan said:

I think the anti crowd are just reactionary people lashing out because they're anxious currently. 

 

Wanting owners to leave who have taken us from second tier mediocrity to winning three trophies (including the biggest two in English football) in the last seven years is moronic. 

goodness me, this has aged 

[Blue ROI]

The writing was on the wall for those fools Rudkin and Aiyatwat back in 2023 when they didn't act on Rodgers for months.

 

It was clear we had a hopeless ownership.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

All the staunch inners don't post on here anymore, weird!

[Tommy G]

On 07/03/2023 at 13:54, Tommy G said:

I think just ousting Jon Rudkin could make a massive difference. 

Who wants the lottery numbers 

[Stadt]

16 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

All the staunch inners don't post on here anymore, weird!

We don't know what they are doing 

[Ric Flair]

On 08/03/2023 at 08:06, Ric Flair said:

I do have concerns about whether there's enough wealth there to deliver on what they want to achieve long term, however that's not what would make me want them to sell up for the sake of it.

 

It comes down to one multifaceted question for me that I'd like to ask Top. Is Jon Rudkin's position measured on performance of the club andwhat would it take for Rudkin to be removed?

 

Like Rodgers with injuries, Rudkin has and will be Top's downfall.

 

If Top has to sell up for us to get the overhaul we need at director level, then that's why I'd be strongly considering it.

 

On 08/03/2023 at 08:58, Ric Flair said:

Yes you're right and that's why it's probably time for Top and the gang to sell up and go. 

 

On 08/03/2023 at 10:00, Ric Flair said:

Until he removes Rudkin, we are in trouble.

I PREFER NOT TO SPAAAAAAAKE

[Spanner73]

73% saying No 

 

is it rigged ? 

[Spanner73]

73% saying No 

 

is it rigged ? 

[SemperEadem]

6 minutes ago, Spanner73 said:

73% saying No 

 

is it rigged ? 

Look at the dates

[1884HF]

can we do a new one pls ffs

 

[Sir Steve Howard]

On 07/03/2023 at 14:00, lifted*fox said:

ToP iS DiSgRACiNG hIS fAtHeR'S LeGACy

 

 

of all the absolute nonsense we have on FT, and there's a LOT - this sort of shit has been some of the worst and it's been rampant recently.

 

people calling Rodger's 'cancer', etc. 

 

mindless stuff, absolute cringe-fest material and utterly embarrassing to think fans of other teams etc. might swing by and see it. 

Quite a few pearlers in this thread.

[dmayne7]

4 hours ago, JonnyBoy said:

goodness me, this has aged 

Problem is that at the time, it was a fair view, certainly without any context about them staying but replacing Rudkin etc.

[Dan]

On 07/03/2023 at 14:32, Dan said:

I don't want him out, but I want him to seriously step up his game. The club is a mess. He's running on credit in the bank at the minute.

Update: Did not step up his game. Allowed the relegation to take place. Rewarded those responsible for it.

Edited 4 March by Dan

[Sir Steve Howard]

On 07/03/2023 at 14:30, westernpark said:

I am neutral towards King Power. They are not a family but a company, hence why they've appointed Susan Whelan and so on. I am not sycophantic towards them like some of our fanbase, which is a dangerous step, because you have to be able to hold them accountable for the good or/and bad. Every season the club becomes more corporate than the last, whilst our owners play a part in that, I see the Premier League and wider football market as the main causation for this. Furthermore, I believe Nigel Pearson was more responsible for our success on the pitch, rather than King Power. Could another manager have built what he did? Very unlikely. Could he have built what he did without King Power? Most likely. Although, we might not have won the league, instead gaining sustained success like that under Martin O'neill. 

However, I am wary of who is out there to replace them. For that reason I will vote in. Whilst we lose our identity on and off the pitch, through the ownership and the advent of modern football, I will continue to enjoy the intangible heritage of my experience of supporting the club. Those friends I only see at football. The pubs I visit. The route I take to the ground and have done for the last twenty years. My memories and nostalgia, of worse times on the pitch, but happier times as a supporter. This is what football is about. 

It's not all doom and gloom though

[Sol thewall Bamba]

On 08/03/2023 at 13:38, FoxinNotts said:

So, so much negativity!

Our owners are fantastic.

Our business model actually works, and has worked

The new stadium will be nothing short of spectacular.

We have a good squad

Ouch

[westernpark]

12 minutes ago, Sir Steve Howard said:

It's not all doom and gloom though

Can’t believe I said vote in, after the reasoning I give in the paragraphs befoe. Daft statements like that are still being said though !

[MattFox]

Wasn’t until last season that people properly turned was it

 

Even the Thai influencer fest had loads defend it at the time 

[jayfox26]

4 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

All the staunch inners don't post on here anymore, weird!

They'll argue that its because they always get shot down and ridiculed, when the reality is, they cant form any kind of argument as to why he should stay other than "we won the league and fa cup" and "be careful what you wish for". This place is great for debate and argument over LCFC matters and I always like to hear differing views to my own, however im still yet to have anyone give me a good argument as to why Top should stay. 

[Blue ROI]

1 hour ago, MattFox said:

Wasn’t until last season that people properly turned was it

 

Even the Thai influencer fest had loads defend it at the time 

He had more apologists in 23 i imagine due to the 21 season and the highs that came with it.

 

It was the worst relegation from such a position of strength by any club in the modern era 4th for the best part of 2 seasons to relegation was extraordinary.

 

And it wasn't Leeds 2004 where the issues we're well flagged in advance.

 

Repeating the same mistakes last season and keeping Rudkin meant that there was no way back.

 

 

[Nalis]

How can you check how you voted? I probably voted no at the time but would be good to know

[Leicester_Loyal]

On 07/03/2023 at 15:19, Leicester_Loyal said:

I don't want him/them out but things need to change and quickly. It's not just the Rodgers situation, it's the whole club, the last few years off the pitch have been shocking. Every few weeks there seems to be another astonishing decision being taken which seems to be against the fans or against logic and we're expected to just keep happy clapping, turning up and paying our money without questioning it.

 

Those that don't think Top or KP can do anything wrong scare me, it sounds like regardless of what happens (even multiple relegations) people would still say he's doing a fantastic job and we want to be careful what we wish for.

Every so often I get it right 

 

On 07/03/2023 at 15:23, pmcla26 said:

Nah, I think we just know that that isn't going to happen (multiple relegations), and I'm confident we'll survive this season, too. 

 

I think we'll be going into next season with Rodgers as manager, quite a fair few new signings/departures and a changed atmosphere within the fan base ready to climb back up the league a little bit. Don't expect us to fight for Europe, but be 11th-14th-ish. 

This didn't age that welll 

[indierich06]

8 hours ago, filbertway said:

Done me dirty here. 

[The Year Of The Fox]

18 hours ago, JonnyBoy said:

goodness me, this has aged 

This hasn’t been his worst opinion either