Brendan Rodgers appreciation thread

[Pliskin]

12 minutes ago, MancFox24 said:

And the 5th place finishes? I agree he's got an inflated ego (not sure there is a good manager out there who doesn't) but if people could see past their dislike for the man then maybe they could see that alot of what he was saying was true. He recognised this squad needed a refresh after the forest cup defeat and was only told he wasn't getting one at the start of pre season (something which has never been disputed by the club). He should have walked away at that point but he believed he could do enough to get us to 40 points. He probably would have failed on that by about 5-10 points if he was here until the end of the season. In my eyes that doesn't take away the great job he did before that

Unfortunately I see the two top five finishes as two failed top four attempts. With the points cushion we had, and the run of games we had, we should have achieved it…. But on both occasions two rancid runs of form cost us. 
 

I think it’s fair to say we’ve diminished under him massively. He was the manager following our most productive summer ever (in terms of finances), and he then he says we need a refresh?
 

The problem is, ever since that Forest defeat that’s all he has gone on about…. He’s frozen out expensive assets like Cags….. he’s belittled the squad claiming they’re not good enough, despite him being directly responsible for two of those signings. 
 

The team are a reflection of their manager, since that day he’s been negative, he’s constantly talked down the squad and the club….. he’s even criticised the fans…. He sets the team up, and he’s just completely lost his way. 
 

He engineered the situation. By starting the talk there was no sign of such a regression prior to this talk. 
 

Psychology in sports is huge, and the impact his negativity has had on this team is undeniable. As one journo said, he leaves with a strange legacy, on one hand we’ve played probably the best football we’ve ever played in some games, we’ve had some success, but equally we’ve had some honking performances and rancid runs of form. He has undeniable let himself down though, the correlation between his demeanour and our form is irrefutable. 

[MancFox24]

10 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

Have looked back and yes there’s a few and yes, they should also use one of the many other threads to express negative views. 
 

Apologies if I came across as blunt, I was just pointing out that it would encourage more negative comments 

 

I would also say some of the earlier posters to express they wanted Rodgers out were vilified on here so if is reflective of how the tide turned that it is the other way round. There are extreme views on both sides of the fence.

 

And ultimately that is Rodgers biggest legacy, a totally divided fan base that is at each other throats 

Yeah, agreed it's time for the fans to come together now so maybe the post wasn't needed! And I would love this same group of players to go on to comfortably get us out of relegation trouble and the club to rebuild in the summer and kick on. I'm sceptical that will happen cus I don't think Rodgers was the cause of the issues we have at the club but I hope I'm proven wrong

[ajthefox]

No need for this thread mere hours after he's gone given our current predicament. 

[grobyfox1990]

That rainy evening in November 2019 when we absolutely battered Arsenal. Villa away 4-1 when it should’ve been 10

[MancFox24]

24 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

Unfortunately I see the two top five finishes as two failed top four attempts. With the points cushion we had, and the run of games we had, we should have achieved it…. But on both occasions two rancid runs of form cost us. 
 

I think it’s fair to say we’ve diminished under him massively. He was the manager following our most productive summer ever (in terms of finances), and he then he says we need a refresh?
 

The problem is, ever since that Forest defeat that’s all he has gone on about…. He’s frozen out expensive assets like Cags….. he’s belittled the squad claiming they’re not good enough, despite him being directly responsible for two of those signings. 
 

The team are a reflection of their manager, since that day he’s been negative, he’s constantly talked down the squad and the club….. he’s even criticised the fans…. He sets the team up, and he’s just completely lost his way. 
 

He engineered the situation. By starting the talk there was no sign of such a regression prior to this talk. 
 

Psychology in sports is huge, and the impact his negativity has had on this team is undeniable. As one journo said, he leaves with a strange legacy, on one hand we’ve played probably the best football we’ve ever played in some games, we’ve had some success, but equally we’ve had some honking performances and rancid runs of form. He has undeniable let himself down though, the correlation between his demeanour and our form is irrefutable. 

I guess if you see 2 5 finishes as failures then it explains why we have such differing views on his time here. I agree that we got one transfer window wrong but in the context of what premier league clubs are spending nowadays, it was hardly massive investment. Look at the net spend over his time here and you'll see why I think the problems lie elsewhere.

 

I disagree with your characterisation of him running the squad down and blaming the fans. These things constantly get said so they've become facts but I've seen pretty much every press conference Rodgers has given since he became manager and he very rarely dug out players. The exception is Cags but people forget he kept loyal to him well after he deserved to be dropped. And he's always defended the fans right to express whatever opinion they want. 

 

Psychology definitely is important, and this is why not refreshing the squad in the summer was such a terrible decision. Players aren't stupid- if they see a club not investing then it doesn't matter what Rodgers says. Part of bringing new players in is about improving those that are already there. 

 

Anyway, I guess time will tell whether Rodgers was more to blame than I think he is. Like I've said in another post, I'm happy to be proven wrong and for us to turn it all around this season and kick on after a refresh in the summer

[Kilworthfox]

Won us a fa cup. 

 

Other than that a complete failure! 

Squad value has halved. 

Worse now than when he took the job. 

 

Don't let the door hit you on the way out 😑

[Gamble92]

51 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

Unfortunately I see the two top five finishes as two failed top four attempts. With the points cushion we had, and the run of games we had, we should have achieved it…. But on both occasions two rancid runs of form cost us. 
 

I think it’s fair to say we’ve diminished under him massively. He was the manager following our most productive summer ever (in terms of finances), and he then he says we need a refresh?
 

The problem is, ever since that Forest defeat that’s all he has gone on about…. He’s frozen out expensive assets like Cags….. he’s belittled the squad claiming they’re not good enough, despite him being directly responsible for two of those signings. 
 

The team are a reflection of their manager, since that day he’s been negative, he’s constantly talked down the squad and the club….. he’s even criticised the fans…. He sets the team up, and he’s just completely lost his way. 
 

He engineered the situation. By starting the talk there was no sign of such a regression prior to this talk. 
 

Psychology in sports is huge, and the impact his negativity has had on this team is undeniable. As one journo said, he leaves with a strange legacy, on one hand we’ve played probably the best football we’ve ever played in some games, we’ve had some success, but equally we’ve had some honking performances and rancid runs of form. He has undeniable let himself down though, the correlation between his demeanour and our form is irrefutable. 

Great post

[Cincinnati Fox]

FA cup and nothing else and I believe that was in spite of rather than because of.

just a horrible bloke all around

[Unabomber]

[Tielemans63]

I've got such mixed feelings. Obviously, relieved he's gone, but the FA Cup win was magical and we played some incredible football in his first 18 months. I don't even regard the 5th place finishes as the abject failure that others do. I thought it was still a very good achievement.

 

I loved him for the first two years but the last 18 months have been horrific. He destroyed all that good will, well and truly.

[Pliskin]

10 minutes ago, MancFox24 said:

I guess if you see 2 5 finishes as failures then it explains why we have such differing views on his time here. I agree that we got one transfer window wrong but in the context of what premier league clubs are spending nowadays, it was hardly massive investment. Look at the net spend over his time here and you'll see why I think the problems lie elsewhere.

 

I disagree with your characterisation of him running the squad down and blaming the fans. These things constantly get said so they've become facts but I've seen pretty much every press conference Rodgers has given since he became manager and he very rarely dug out players. The exception is Cags but people forget he kept loyal to him well after he deserved to be dropped. And he's always defended the fans right to express whatever opinion they want. 

 

Psychology definitely is important, and this is why not refreshing the squad in the summer was such a terrible decision. Players aren't stupid- if they see a club not investing then it doesn't matter what Rodgers says. Part of bringing new players in is about improving those that are already there. 

 

Anyway, I guess time will tell whether Rodgers was more to blame than I think he is. Like I've said in another post, I'm happy to be proven wrong and for us to turn it all around this season and kick on after a refresh in the summer

Well I guess we just have to agree to disagree.

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

I like the way he did his shopping list on his pad in games. Multi tasking to be admired. Seriously, we played some nice football early on when he had attacking intent. The FA Cup win is always there, as much as we rode some luck. The two 5ths are not in the credit column considering where we were each season and the inability to get them done. The last 18 months have been a disaster considering where we were and had. 

[The Quick Brown Fox]

1 hour ago, marbles said:

If one man was able to take away your love for this club, I gotta question whether you ever actually loved it to begin with.

Season ticket holder since 2003. 

Been there through it all. Not much has turned me off of the club. Puel, then Rodgers properly killed my enjoyment of the game. Gone from days where a loss would ruin the weekend to a loss being expected and forgotten in minutes.

I've said before, maybe covid did it but the shite Brendans teams have served has to be the reason I no longer get the buzz of a win or the pain of a loss. 

Next Saturday will be my 3rd game of the season (first game of the season and MK Dons away the other 2), and I'm sure I will enjoy next week more than the others, win lose it draw as I am pretty confident we will be playing with attacking intent. 

[sylofox]

Thanks for the cup that was inspite of you. Now fvck off and good riddance.

 

 

WE WILL RISE OUT OF THE HOLE YOU'VE PUT US IN.

Edited 2 April 2023 by sylofox

[Freeman's Wharfer]

I can’t show any appreciation yet.

 

If this sacking was simply the culmination of some bad form or bad results, ala Ranieri, then fair enough, he’d have a great legacy.

 

But he actually talked the club down and disrespected it at every opportunity over the past year. He created this current predicament out of his blatant disregard for anything other than his own brand.

 

Any half decent manager working for the benefit of the club and showing some positivity, rather than sucking it away bit by bit, would have had us nestled comfortably up the table by now. He trashed the place on his way out.

[Voll Blau]

2 hours ago, Mike1983 said:

So long "big" fella. I honestly would give away the FA cup if it meant we could stay in the premier league. Getting relegated will financially crush us.

Behave. Such a weird attitude for any football fan to have.

[walkerleeds]

35 minutes ago, Unabomber said:

 

Fvcking amazing 

[Tielemans63]

Long term, I think he'll be remembered fondly but it will be a while as his antics towards the end really soured his reputation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[The Quick Brown Fox]

Let him go to a "big team" watch them do well for a while and then drop like a stone when he gets his own way into the team. 

 

The guys a fraud. 

 

 

[The Quick Brown Fox]

1 minute ago, Tielemans63 said:

Long term, I think he'll be remembered fondly but it will be a while as his antics towards the end really soured his reputation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't think so. I think he's stayed well past anyone remembering him fondly. 

[Tielemans63]

3 minutes ago, browniefox said:

I don't think so. I think he's stayed well past anyone remembering him fondly. 

Fair enough. However, I think in 10 years time people will talk about the Fa cup win and not all the other nonsense. Who knows?

[squidsworth]

Appreciation? He achieved one thing in the fa cup. For that I'm grateful. But even before then that season in the league and ever since, the team has been on a huge downward spiral. If he wasn't so stuck on believing his own hype and actually sought to recognise and change things, he might have been something. But he couldn't do that. A slightly flukey fa cup win was his only achievement, the rest was poison really on a great team he could have done so much more with. Bye Brendon, I don't appreciate you at all.

Edited 2 April 2023 by squidsworth

[Trav Le Bleu]

Biggest away win in Premier League history.

 

When he was appointed, I wasn't happy, thought he had had it too easy for too long (your gran could manage Celtic to the SPL title, right?), but he won me over. 

 

Then lost me.

 

I'm with @Tielemans63 here, too many people only ever remember the last few months. You see it happen in music and movie awards (don't release an album or film in January, no chance you'll be remembered) and things like Sports Personality of the Year all the time.

Edited 2 April 2023 by Trav Le Bleu

[Top cop]

I have tried to be balanced and thoughtful all this season. I admit to being wrong. Verdict;: CNUT.

 

[coolhandfox]

Let see how long it is before we finish in the top 6 again before we dismiss how good a season 19/20, 21/20 were.