Rudkin

[mozartfox]

5 hours ago, Nick said:

So you’ve never made blunders at work and learnt from them?

 

 

Fear not the Foxes Trust are on a witch-hunt……….

[hackneyfox]

7 hours ago, Fazzer 7 said:

By the look of her she do with using the club gym facilities. 

Would you make the same type of comment about a male employee of the club? Fcuk off back to the 70s.

[filbertway]

37 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Why would anyone use it as an excuse. We have teams of people who work on these things. 
 

Two people conversing in Pigeon English about a Thai player who clearly won’t be anywhere near the team… what could go wrong. 

Who are these teams of people that get deals over the line for us?

 

Genuinely interested as we barely seem to be able to focus on more than one deal at a time.

 

 

[Babylon]

4 minutes ago, filbertway said:

Who are these teams of people that get deals over the line for us?

 

Genuinely interested as we barely seem to be able to focus on more than one deal at a time.

Deals involve people from lawyers, club secretaries, general admins and PA’s, Whelan has been involved in plenty and the head of recruitment of course. 

[filbertway]

Just now, Babylon said:

Deals involve people from lawyers, club secretaries, general admins and PA’s, Whelan has been involved in plenty and the head of recruitment of course. 

Seems like Rudkin is surplus to requirements then if all these people can do the job while he's on holiday with Top.

[Babylon]

Just now, filbertway said:

Seems like Rudkin is surplus to requirements then if all these people can do the job while he's on holiday with Top.

Rigggghht….

[filbertway]

1 minute ago, Babylon said:

Rigggghht….

Haha  

 

Sound like we're calling that one a win for me? 

[Fazzer 7]

1 hour ago, hackneyfox said:

Would you make the same type of comment about a male employee of the club? Fcuk off back to the 70s.

That would be excellent. The Bloomfield boys. 

[Mendi]

He is still in a job.

[Tommy G]

6 hours ago, filbertway said:

Haha  

 

Sound like we're calling that one a win for me? 

Sounds like you don’t understand how a football club works to me. Irregardless of anyone’s feelings towards Rudkin, I think he’s a plank too, but a proper director of football will be doing 15 hour days and integral alongside the team that Babylon quoted in getting any deal over the line. 

[Adster]

8 hours ago, filbertway said:

Haha  

 

Sound like we're calling that one a win for me? 

Not really. Sounds like you have no idea how a corporate business operates.

 

A team needs someone to provide leadership and guidance in a hierarchical structure. Not saying Rudkin is good but it obviously doesn't make his job redundant because he does do the day-to-day 

[filbertway]

7 hours ago, Adster said:

Not really. Sounds like you have no idea how a corporate business operates.

 

A team needs someone to provide leadership and guidance in a hierarchical structure. Not saying Rudkin is good but it obviously doesn't make his job redundant because he does do the day-to-day 

 

I was being flippant incase it wasn't obvious haha. I unfortunately understand corporate business and the amount of brown-nosing, pointless-meeting lovers that come with it.

 

He's clearly not good at it though. Hes responsible for the football side of things and overseen one of the greatest declines seen in football and at a rapid speed.

 

If my team performed like that I'd probably quit myself out of embarrassment.

 

[Tommy G]

1 hour ago, filbertway said:

 

I was being flippant incase it wasn't obvious haha. I unfortunately understand corporate business and the amount of brown-nosing, pointless-meeting lovers that come with it.

 

He's clearly not good at it though. Hes responsible for the football side of things and overseen one of the greatest declines seen in football and at a rapid speed.

 

If my team performed like that I'd probably quit myself out of embarrassment.

 

Sounds like the corporate world has spat you out. 
 

He’s probably got a mortgage and a family so didn’t want to give up his pay check. 

[filbertway]

52 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Sounds like the corporate world has spat you out. 
 

He’s probably got a mortgage and a family so didn’t want to give up his pay check. 

 

Probably true, he must know he'd never get as much of a cushty gig anywhere else as clubs must realise he's an absolute embarrassment and clearly well out of his depth.

 

Shame our club has to suffer for it though.

[sacreblueits442]

11 hours ago, Tommy G said:

Sounds like you don’t understand how a football club works to me. Irregardless of anyone’s feelings towards Rudkin, I think he’s a plank too, but a proper director of football will be doing 15 hour days and integral alongside the team that Babylon quoted in getting any deal over the line. 

...if he has time to oversee khun Top's horses and their training and the logistics that relates to their ability to perform,  then he is surely not putting in the hours that you envisage!!!

 Also being DoF for OHL as well as running our academy, it smacks more of empire building than someone capable of handling his own workload.

  The only reason for "empire building" is the knowledge that you are inadequate in your post and seek to make yourself appear indispensable to your bosses by the the amount of work they perceive that you do.

Edited 24 July 2023 by sacreblueits442
Spelling error.

[Lambert09]

Everything wrong about our DOF's role is currently on show. 

 

This is the most important few weeks for the club with a crazy amount to do.. any owner would suggest staying in england on the correct timezone... maybe im being silly, because we have technology and no real need to stay put but theres a few things. Its quite obviously the standard arse kissing to top and the family that we expect from rudkin... hes there to be seen and heard and to make sure hes the one with access to top.  

 

He will be spending leisurely time with the owner and respecting thai values and doing all the schmoozing that happens in thailand... trust me theres a lot over there. Everything is about being seen for appearance. But what that means is theres no way he's flown out there to sit and focus on work with the occasional appearance. My guess would be his actual duties are mostly on hold. 

 

It doesnt sit right with me, because I think its all very obvious. We all know a rudkin in life... hes assuring his position as right hand man but ironically is ignoring his role in the process. 

 

Does edu swan around with the Kroenkes? Does Dan Ashworth with a few weeks to go? Nope... they will be fully focused to getting what needs to be done, done.

 

I mean our DOF was caught on holiday in the last week of the window one year... thats laughable. He's not doing his due dilligence. What happens if you get a last minute mega offer? Him sat in his swimmers wouldnt be ready to spring into action to find a solution... just makes no sense in my mind. 

 

Im not saying our work is on pause... what im suggesting is it isnt being done to the standard that it should be. I want my DOF on the pulse, of every thing that moves in football. You dont just go on holiday with a list of targets and take whatever happens.. I want someone ready to jump into action, that sees that theres an issue at Lorient and can suddently capitalize on a deal... that notices Copenhagen need a cb now and can offer them our dane.   

 

Just needed to rant because the bloke drives me crazy and I know hes going to come out of the window with roses because weve signed a few big names but the reality is an attractive manager and a gigantic budget is whats doing the business and not him being competent. 

Edited 24 July 2023 by Lambert09

[filbo rob]

If only Top could see what the majority of us can see.

[berniethebolt]

Pleased to see this thread getting some activity again. It seemed totally clear to me (in my view) that alot of our issues including the relegation came from poorly managed activities off the playing field where players had one eye out the door as a result poorly managed contracts, and club paralysed on developing itself through overpaid average players taking a disproportionate share of the budget.

 

My thought is he will get away with any blame by keeping his head down long enough and somehow making a few decent signings on the rebuild.. of course this is at the cost of relegation and hundreds of millions of lost revenue. 

 

I could also be totally wrong in that a major director of a company who is clearly one of two directors making the major decisions is nothing to do with this situation and the blame lies with others, which would result in another massively overpaid role doing little to nothing at the club.

[Astleyfox]

On 23/07/2023 at 16:37, hackneyfox said:

Would you make the same type of comment about a male employee of the club? Fcuk off back to the 70s.

Language Hackers! Youre not on The Roof now!

[sylofox]

If Rudkin is as bad as most think Viachi would have binned him off. A few years ago TS had a full hour trying to explain a DoF's roll. The outcome was the roll is different in every club I.e. every club they have different rolls.

 

So unless its explained exactly what he is expected to do by the club how can we judge him. We think he is doing 60% at best, but he could be 100% as far as his roll is expected of him by Top and Viachi are were concerned.

[Muzzy_no7]

What the hell does the guy actually do?

 

What qualified him to effectively run the no.7 club in England? 

[filbertway]

7 minutes ago, sylofox said:

If Rudkin is as bad as most think Viachi would have binned him off. A few years ago TS had a full hour trying to explain a DoF's roll. The outcome was the roll is different in every club I.e. every club they have different rolls.

 

So unless its explained exactly what he is expected to do by the club how can we judge him. We think he is doing 60% at best, but he could be 100% as far as his roll is expected of him by Top and Viachi are were concerned.

Bare in mind that Pearson laid some spectacular ground work that literally just needed maintaining by the time Rudkin took over from Robinson. Pearson did what a tob class DoF does and put in place a fantastic structure with top class people in their roles.

 

Easy enough to ride off the back of that. You know the recipe for success, just maintain that and keep honing it.

 

He took a risk on handing it all over to Rodgers and it backfired spectacularly, showing him up to be the out of his depth clown he is.

 

Again though, people trying to make out that he created this unstoppable force and then it just happens to have gone wrong due to a bit of bad luck.

[Dan]

9 hours ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

What the hell does the guy actually do?

 

What qualified him to effectively run the no.7 club in England? 

Right place right time. Time has one its thing with him.

[Dan]

9 hours ago, filbertway said:

Bare in mind that Pearson laid some spectacular ground work that literally just needed maintaining by the time Rudkin took over from Robinson. Pearson did what a tob class DoF does and put in place a fantastic structure with top class people in their roles.

 

Easy enough to ride off the back of that. You know the recipe for success, just maintain that and keep honing it.

 

He took a risk on handing it all over to Rodgers and it backfired spectacularly, showing him up to be the out of his depth clown he is.

 

Again though, people trying to make out that he created this unstoppable force and then it just happens to have gone wrong due to a bit of bad luck.

This is spot on and ultimately why Pearson is so highly thought of.

[Daggers]

On 23/07/2023 at 11:13, Nick said:

So you’ve never made blunders at work and learnt from them?

 

 

There’s a difference between mistakenly ordering a box of red biros instead of blue ones and punching a parent out because he threatened to get you sacked because you wouldn’t rig his indolent son’s results. At which point I was sacked.

 

Rudkin has not accidentally stocked up on helium filled footballs. He has been metaphorically punching the club in the tits, in the same way that Whelan has dropped her knickers, lifted her skirt, squatted over the chest of every fan and curled out a massive shit.

 

Some things can’t be framed as learning experiences.