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3 hours ago, AjcW said:

I can't ****ing stand the 'we don't care' chant, needs to just switch back to clear and simple "we want Rudkin out" along with other KP/Top stuff.

Agreed. Ripped off from Newcastle and doesn't even make sense in our scenario. 

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26 minutes ago, ashbyj said:

Did anyone see the mass protest outside the executive suite after the game at Norwich on Saturday? Green smoke bombs, angry chants of sack the board and your football is shit!

 

I stopped and made my 12 year old son watch as that is how a fan base should stage a protest, embarrassing really we can’t do the same at our club.

 

 

That's because we have no unity. Just look at the response that chant over the weekend has got. All the club have to do is play the victim, and half the fanbase will go to war with the other half, to protect Top and Rudkin.

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2 hours ago, CornwallFox said:

No fan, no matter how they see things, is "part of the problem". None of us have any effect on KP or LCFC. This ridiculous "you're either with us or the enemy" type rhetoric is really stupid imo. 

It’s true that Aiyawatt and Rudkin get free rein to do what they want without being accountable due to the passive fan base though. Many other clubs fans would not accept their club is being run as we are now and would be together in demanding better. 
 

It’s not even about hounding them out, or it wasn’t. It can be about putting pressure to do better and be accountable. But whenever sections of the fan base have tried to do that, and I mean in the right way, not like this issue at Norwich, they have been turned on by large sections of our own fans. 
 

So our fan base generally is partly to blame here. Yes, things might have happened the same but we will never know, as they have been allowed to do this without being allowed to be criticised.

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If we really want Rudkin to go, we need to chant it all game. Not just when we go behind. In fact, the most powerful time to sing it would when we go ahead. We need to get rid of this clown. He’s ruining our club. You wouldn’t sit back and let him date your daughter. 

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19 minutes ago, Jakemoore said:

If we really want Rudkin to go, we need to chant it all game. Not just when we go behind. In fact, the most powerful time to sing it would when we go ahead. We need to get rid of this clown. He’s ruining our club. You wouldn’t sit back and let him date your daughter. 

Spot on mate.  And before kick off  and at half time.

 

Maybe alternate between we want "Rudkin out" and "We want Top out."

 

Both need to 'sling their hook' if we are to.move forward and actually heal ss s club.

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2 hours ago, ashbyj said:

Did anyone see the mass protest outside the executive suite after the game at Norwich on Saturday? Green smoke bombs, angry chants of sack the board and your football is shit!

 

I stopped and made my 12 year old son watch as that is how a fan base should stage a protest, embarrassing really we can’t do the same at our club.

 

 

From a club who've had a fraction of our decline as well.

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26 minutes ago, ealingfox said:

 

Was saying this on the way out on Saturday. Norwich have no form for this sort of thing and they were at baying mob territory after the 7th and 8th straight home defeats. 

 

Last season we lost 9 straight home games WITHOUT SCORING and half the ground were still clapping them off at full time lol

 

This is Norwich as well. It's hardly Leeds or Everton.

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I don’t even get how the bloke wants to be here anymore. He’s been getting abused for about 4/5 years now, and those chants at the weekend have clearly (rightly) struck a nerve, he has to keep a relatively low profile around the club - I can only imagine in the local area. Surely his family are telling him it isn’t worth it anymore? Get out of the limelight and go and look after the Horses and Leuven. 

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Rudkin is probably a nincompoop. Or maybe he's not an fool at all, and is just a Yes-man to Top's tantrums. Boardrooms of the world are full of Rudkins.

 

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5 hours ago, Guppys Love Child said:

Spot on mate.  And before kick off  and at half time.

 

Maybe alternate between we want "Rudkin out" and "We want Top out."

 

Both need to 'sling their hook' if we are to.move forward and actually heal ss s club.

Top doesn't really fit with many chants, but I guess as much as it's overdone, could do either 'King Power' or 'Top and Rudkin' to Sloop John B.

 

'Get out of our club

Get out of our club

Top and Rudkin

Get out of our club'

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5 hours ago, Dmitry said:

Rudkin is probably a nincompoop. Or maybe he's not an fool at all, and is just a Yes-man to Top's tantrums. Boardrooms of the world are full of Rudkins.

 

I said something similar the other day.

 

Whatever we think of Rudkin, he has still been around football for an awful long time, probably his whole life. No doubt he has been promoted beyond his capabilities with stuff like negotiation and no doubt his integrity is in tatters given his part in all this and not walking away.

 

But, given he is a football man, do we really think he truly thinks all this is just normal and acceptable? I’m really beginning to doubt this which then puts it firmly back as him being as you say, a yes man and Aiyawatt being the true decision maker.

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The guy has a ton of different jobs, how can he do them all properly when he’s being spread so thinly? How he is performing in his other roles, does anyone know? Can he not just pick one he’s relatively good at and let us get someone in at the club who knows what they’re doing? 

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8 hours ago, Aleksz said:

I don’t even get how the bloke wants to be here anymore. He’s been getting abused for about 4/5 years now, and those chants at the weekend have clearly (rightly) struck a nerve, he has to keep a relatively low profile around the club - I can only imagine in the local area. Surely his family are telling him it isn’t worth it anymore? Get out of the limelight and go and look after the Horses and Leuven. 

Exactly. You’d think he might throw the towel in given how his work has hardly born fruit, and even more baffling when large sections of the fan base are trying to hound you out and some are calling for him to die ffs. He can’t enjoy going to work anymore, or like you said even living in the local area must be a chore. I wonder how far away he is from having hired protection around the clock, or is he at the point wearing hoodies/caps and keeping his head down.

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9 hours ago, Aleksz said:

I don’t even get how the bloke wants to be here anymore. He’s been getting abused for about 4/5 years now, and those chants at the weekend have clearly (rightly) struck a nerve, he has to keep a relatively low profile around the club - I can only imagine in the local area. Surely his family are telling him it isn’t worth it anymore? Get out of the limelight and go and look after the Horses and Leuven. 

Apparently he loves having security and refers to himself as 'leicester's most unpopular man'.

 

I agree on the family piece - must be shite for them.

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I’ve also heard he doesn’t have as much of a say as people think. Which I can believe 

 

But that begs the question as to why he’s still here. If your boss is so shit he drags your name through the mud,- you leave. 

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We were recently asked to assemble data for a hiring campaign for a major sporting director. Since we assembled a ton of data  to build the job metrics, hiring strategy and KPI’s we decided to look at where Jon Rudkin fits and if there is a reason Top May not seem keen to move him. Now you have to eliminate the style of football and emotion. The facts are that in English foot ball 

over his tenure Rudkin is the second or third most successful Director of Football. Only Man City’s recently departed DOF is better. remember in his tenure only 4 teams other than Leicester won the EPL, only 5 teams other than Leicester won an FA Cup, yes we have had two relegations but also two promotions. On transfers income in to income out is not the big loss we perceive it’s about 15 million euro per season he has been in charge. Considering the heights we strove to reach is not that bad and for our revenue capacity is better than many. Wages is the big downfall and we wonder is there another element at play. Cold facts are that his resume is quire good. I can hear the howls coming but would someone else have delivered more? Has he run out of steam or has the club hit a natural ceiling? For an incoming DOF if you told them 3 trophies, two promotions, two top five finishes and a European cup quarter final in 20 years would you get someone who can deliver on what in comparison is not a high salary. To be honest we think we would struggle to find a candidate.

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10 minutes ago, CL Fox said:

Apparently he loves having security and refers to himself as 'leicester's most unpopular man'.

 

I agree on the family piece - must be shite for them.

Brilliant.  Instead of reflecting on how he got there, he is actually proud of his incompetence. 

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11 minutes ago, Globalfox said:

We were recently asked to assemble data for a hiring campaign for a major sporting director. Since we assembled a ton of data  to build the job metrics, hiring strategy and KPI’s we decided to look at where Jon Rudkin fits and if there is a reason Top May not seem keen to move him. Now you have to eliminate the style of football and emotion. The facts are that in English foot ball 

over his tenure Rudkin is the second or third most successful Director of Football. Only Man City’s recently departed DOF is better. remember in his tenure only 4 teams other than Leicester won the EPL, only 5 teams other than Leicester won an FA Cup, yes we have had two relegations but also two promotions. On transfers income in to income out is not the big loss we perceive it’s about 15 million euro per season he has been in charge. Considering the heights we strove to reach is not that bad and for our revenue capacity is better than many. Wages is the big downfall and we wonder is there another element at play. Cold facts are that his resume is quire good. I can hear the howls coming but would someone else have delivered more? Has he run out of steam or has the club hit a natural ceiling? For an incoming DOF if you told them 3 trophies, two promotions, two top five finishes and a European cup quarter final in 20 years would you get someone who can deliver on what in comparison is not a high salary. To be honest we think we would struggle to find a candidate.

This is a good post. 

 

We aren't in the big 6 clubs, we are probably in the top 20 just in terms of size, history, income, ground size etc etc. This is a very competitive space with a lot of similar sized clubs who dream of our recent success. 

 

My point is we have no right to success. It has to be earned. And often what follows is a period where you are unsuccessful. 

 

My hope is the powers that run out club have that energy. We need stability first and if that means a year or two in the Championship building so be it. 

 

I think those of us that watched us from before or in my case from the 90s understand this and are more content with our recent struggles. They are painful. And if like Norwich we'd just lost 7 home games on the trot we'd be protesting too. But we aren't there. 

 

If we survive the points deduction and all that media noise and financial stuff goes away. We finish mid table. Get the high earning players who want away off the books. Play some of the youth and put in place a playing style that suits Leicester City I'll be happy (ish) with this seasons efforts.  

 

Then we can put together a proper promotion chase with strong foundations and the financial backing we'd need if we go up. 

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22 minutes ago, Product of 84 said:

This is a good post. 

 

We aren't in the big 6 clubs, we are probably in the top 20 just in terms of size, history, income, ground size etc etc. This is a very competitive space with a lot of similar sized clubs who dream of our recent success. 

 

My point is we have no right to success. It has to be earned. And often what follows is a period where you are unsuccessful. 

 

My hope is the powers that run out club have that energy. We need stability first and if that means a year or two in the Championship building so be it. 

 

I think those of us that watched us from before or in my case from the 90s understand this and are more content with our recent struggles. They are painful. And if like Norwich we'd just lost 7 home games on the trot we'd be protesting too. But we aren't there. 

 

If we survive the points deduction and all that media noise and financial stuff goes away. We finish mid table. Get the high earning players who want away off the books. Play some of the youth and put in place a playing style that suits Leicester City I'll be happy (ish) with this seasons efforts.  

 

Then we can put together a proper promotion chase with strong foundations and the financial backing we'd need if we go up. 

It isn't.  I just don't have the energy to go through everything that is wrong about it.  Would take me all day.

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51 minutes ago, Globalfox said:

We were recently asked to assemble data for a hiring campaign for a major sporting director. Since we assembled a ton of data  to build the job metrics, hiring strategy and KPI’s we decided to look at where Jon Rudkin fits and if there is a reason Top May not seem keen to move him. Now you have to eliminate the style of football and emotion. The facts are that in English foot ball 

over his tenure Rudkin is the second or third most successful Director of Football. Only Man City’s recently departed DOF is better. remember in his tenure only 4 teams other than Leicester won the EPL, only 5 teams other than Leicester won an FA Cup, yes we have had two relegations but also two promotions. On transfers income in to income out is not the big loss we perceive it’s about 15 million euro per season he has been in charge. Considering the heights we strove to reach is not that bad and for our revenue capacity is better than many. Wages is the big downfall and we wonder is there another element at play. Cold facts are that his resume is quire good. I can hear the howls coming but would someone else have delivered more? Has he run out of steam or has the club hit a natural ceiling? For an incoming DOF if you told them 3 trophies, two promotions, two top five finishes and a European cup quarter final in 20 years would you get someone who can deliver on what in comparison is not a high salary. To be honest we think we would struggle to find a candidate.

Something i've banged on about since 2015 is, if all that you've said above is true, why didn't he get poached, why didn't Susan get poached, why didn't Anthony go and get a mega job with the City group or another big 6 club.

 

Same goes for staff in all parts of the club, no one leaves, they stay in the same position for years, it's mental lol 

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What Pearson built (which did lead to our subsequent success) should not be conflated with the appointment of Rudkin after Pearson was ousted, after the league win we then saw changes to the way we operate (we didn't appoint for Steve Walsh as DOF for example) and then saw a slow decline, all on Rudkin. A decline that now sees us where we are, all on Rudkin.

 

We will never ever find ourselves in the position we did (under this regime), the apparent mastermind behind our success (he wasn't) clearly has lost the Midas touch and any forward thinking operation would drive the correct structural change based on logic and its not surprising the response by the likes of Pearson, Vardy and Morgan to Whelan (a scapegoat) leaving the club aren't ready to begin making the correct logical changes.

 

This is club is being mismanaged and with its resources the team is underperforming and will continue to do so. 

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1 hour ago, Product of 84 said:

And if like Norwich we'd just lost 7 home games on the trot we'd be protesting too. But we aren't there. 

Earlier this year we lost 9 home games on the trot without scoring a single goal.

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