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1 hour ago, bovril said:

lol 

 

Honestly I feel like most of the posts in this thread are just supporters of a certain age getting their own back for all the bring back NP threads. 

MON was twice as successful with us as NP and way more as both a player and a manager generally.

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4 minutes ago, Mr Weller 2 said:

Pearson has a job-not that he’s doing well at it.

Bristol City fans would disagree with you on that. They love him 

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2 minutes ago, Mr Weller 2 said:

MON was twice as successful with us as NP and way more as both a player and a manager generally.

Definitely, anybody rating Pearson over prime MON is crazy. 

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I presume when people use the term 'dinosaur' to describe a manager what they really mean is that said manager doesn't wear a black roll-neck sweater and some chinos on the touchline. And they don't regurgitate trendy buzzwords like 'intensity', 'character', 'control' and 'high-press'. And that they don't insist on their players doing those silly little short goal-kick routines.

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Just now, SouthStandUpperTier said:

I presume when people use the term 'dinosaur' to describe a manager what they really mean is that said manager doesn't wear a black roll-neck sweater and some chinos on the touchline. And they don't regurgitate trendy buzzwords like 'intensity', 'character', 'control' and 'high-press'. And that they don't insist on their players doing those silly little short goal-kick routines.

It’s ‘cool’ to label managers as dinosaurs if they don’t play the same way as Pep. More than one way to win football matches….

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MON was absolutely magic but he was young and dynamic and he had John Robertson and Steve Walford who were brilliant too. Who would he have this time? Roy Keane or Neil Lennon? Muzzy? I’m starting to get excited 

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4 minutes ago, bovril said:

Definitely, anybody rating Pearson over prime MON is crazy. 

Pearson and his team built the squad and togetherness which ended in us winning the league. Multiple players from that squad have confirmed this since.  
 

Prime Pearson was beating Man United 5-2 prime MON was beating Sunderland 5-2.

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Just now, dylanlegend said:

Pearson and his team built the squad and togetherness which ended in us winning the league. Multiple players from that squad have confirmed this since.  
 

Prime Pearson was beating Man United 5-2 prime MON was beating Sunderland 5-2.

Prime MON was promotion, 4 top 10 finishes and two trophies.

 

I love Pearson for what he did here though and comparing the two is pointless because they did very different jobs in different eras. 

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3 minutes ago, dylanlegend said:

Pearson and his team built the squad and togetherness which ended in us winning the league. Multiple players from that squad have confirmed this since.  
 

Prime Pearson was beating Man United 5-2 prime MON was beating Sunderland 5-2.

I love Pearson but it was 5-3

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Just now, bovril said:

Prime MON was promotion, 4 top 10 finishes and two trophies.

 

I love Pearson for what he did here though and comparing the two is pointless because they did very different jobs in different eras. 

Prime Pearson was 2 promotions, 100+ points total in the championship and making a huge contribution to our greatest ever achievement 

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2 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said:

I miss the days when we used to skein for fun.

I have spent many a long, lonely night loosely coiling and knotting a length of yarn.

 

God I miss those days. 

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2 minutes ago, dylanlegend said:

Prime Pearson was 2 promotions, 100+ points total in the championship and making a huge contribution to our greatest ever achievement 

Not really fair to give Pearson the edge on promotions is it? And yes he did make a huge contribution but he didn't win the trophy himself. And you could argue (I probably wouldn't, personally) that 2015/16 proved NP wasn't getting as much out of some of those players as he could've. 

 

I admit I'm biased because the 96-2000 team was my team growing up and I don't think you ever really forget that. They are as close to my heart as the 15/16 team. Trying to be as objective as possible though I don't think you can rank Pearson above O'Neill in the list of our managers and certainly Nige won't be remembered as a top manager, if he's remembered as a manager at all beyond the fanbases of the clubs he's been at. 

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Just now, Stinky said:

To be fair the more I think about this, the more I think we should just liquidate immediately and start again in the Vanaramas

With O’Neil as manager ? I’m with you. 

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15 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said:

I presume when people use the term 'dinosaur' to describe a manager what they really mean is that said manager doesn't wear a black roll-neck sweater and some chinos on the touchline. And they don't regurgitate trendy buzzwords like 'intensity', 'character', 'control' and 'high-press'. And that they don't insist on their players doing those silly little short goal-kick routines.

In this case it's probably more to do with the fact he's done nothing of note in club football for at least a decade and the memories of the glory days under him that people are getting misty-eyed over are twice as old as that. Of course if you were looking outside of football you could also call him a dinosaur for some of the stupid shit he said while Ireland manager, which I won't reproduce here for fear of being called a woke libtard snowflake or similar.

 

In truth we've got absolutely no idea what he'd wear on the touchline, what sort of goal kicks he'd have us taking or indeed what sort of football he'd want us to play at all and that's kind of the whole point. If Everton were in our position and they appointed Joe Royle or Wolves binned off Lopetegui for Dave Jones we would all be absolutely astonished.

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34 minutes ago, Mr Weller 2 said:

You can overdo the current tactical nouse argument. Rogers was very tactically aware. Right now we need a motivator. MON was also clever, he is one of the most intelligent men in the game and a proven winner.

He hasn’t been for a considerable period now. His last three jobs have been failures. 
 

Sunderland - left after 3 pts in 24, on cusp of PL relegation zone. Had three winless runs lasting eight games at a time. 

 

Ireland - initial success of Euro qualification went into disaster by the end. Lost a playoff second leg 5-1 and then ended up in third tier of nations league. 

 

Forest - despite a considerable outlay; finished 9th. 
 

This largely aligns when he lost Robertson and Walford as his coaches. 

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13 minutes ago, Stinky said:

To be fair the more I think about this, the more I think we should just liquidate immediately and start again in the Vanaramas

I had a touch of the vanaramas but got some cream from Boots and its cleared up nicely.

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