The ashes 2023

[Voll Blau]

38 minutes ago, Izzy said:

Isn’t it a bit odd to announce your retirement half way through a game though?

I understand Broads reasons but wonder why he didn’t wait until after the game?

 

It might be big-headed to announce it so the crowd can show their appreciation, but I think it's what today's crowd would probably want to know. Look at the reception Anderson got coming out to bat last night because people were just assuming this is his last game. Broad probably just feels he has a duty to let the fans know when he already knew himself.

 

Suspect that's actually why we haven't declared, so both can get applauded on this morning.

[Izzy]

16 minutes ago, Voll Blau said:

It might be big-headed to announce it so the crowd can show their appreciation, but I think it's what today's crowd would probably want to know. Look at the reception Anderson got coming out to bat last night because people were just assuming this is his last game. Broad probably just feels he has a duty to let the fans know when he already knew himself.

 

Suspect that's actually why we haven't declared, so both can get applauded on this morning.

Yeah fair enough. I just wondered why he didn’t announce it before the game or afterwards.

 

I can’t recall someone retiring halfway through a game. Anyway, best of luck to him.

[Super_horns]

Sun out at the moment but looks dodgy later .

Can we start early ..
 

 

I mean going to a family BBQ fairly close to South London later so that is sure fire rain !

Edited 30 July 2023 by Super_horns

[foxfanazer]

Class from the Aussies 

[trabuch]

Why aren't we taking runs?

[EastAnglianFox]

Bizarre already  have they not seen the weather for later on.

 

Either run for everything or declare

[goody2028]

Stuart Broad forever not out for 8 

[trabuch]

1 minute ago, goody2028 said:

Stuart Broad forever not out for 8 

And hitting his last delivery for 6

[EastAnglianFox]

Half an hour out of the day wasted then 

[goody2028]

[leicsmac]

3 minutes ago, EastAnglianFox said:

Half an hour out of the day wasted then 

I think that if England cannot bowl Aus out without that extra half hour then they don't deserve to win this anyway, I doubt it will be relevant.

[leicsmac]

And Aus aren't getting anywhere near this target. Either England win or the weather does (again).

[EastAnglianFox]

2 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

I think that if England cannot bowl Aus out without that extra half hour then they don't deserve to win this anyway, I doubt it will be relevant.

 

Let me be miserable 

[Lionator]

Broad left stranded. We’d have never known if he could’ve bettered Bradman’s batting average. 

[Izzy]

1 hour ago, leicsmac said:

And Aus aren't getting anywhere near this target. 

[leicsmac]

4 minutes ago, Izzy said:

On this pitch, in this situation, one wicket will bring a few. Still don't see them getting past 300.

[Finnegan]

6 minutes ago, Izzy said:

 

It would be quite like David Warner to wait til this moment, in Stuart Brad's last game, to work out how to bat against England in England. 

[EastAnglianFox]

It would just be Australia to a tee to absolutely cruise to this total.

[purpleronnie]

Don't worry lads, I've got this.

 

Rain dance.

 

[kingkisnorbo]

3 minutes ago, purpleronnie said:

Don't worry lads, I've got this.

 

Rain dance.

 

Danny Ward's looking well. 

[Sparrowhawk]

If these two were still there at tea (very unlikely), there would be a chance this match could get interesting.

If these two were still there at stumps (unlikely beyond belief), this match would have got interesting.

 

Unless Australia are 200-ish for no more than one at the end of today, they'll get nowhere near. They just don't have the depth of in-form batters they need.

 

England will win by 97 runs (at the least) at 11.42 tomorrow morning (at the latest).

 

 

Edited 30 July 2023 by Sparrowhawk

[Lionator]

9 minutes ago, Sparrowhawk said:

If these two were still there at tea (very unlikely), there would be a chance this match could get interesting.

If these two were still there at stumps (unlikely beyond belief), this match would have got interesting.

 

Unless Australia are 200-ish for no more than one at the end of today, they'll get nowhere near. They just don't have the depth of in-form batters they need.

 

England will win by 97 runs (at the least) at 11.42 tomorrow morning (at the latest).

 

 

The pitch is as flat as it’s been in the series, the ball is doing next to nothing. Chances are we’ll bowl well enough to take 10 wickets but I’d say there’s at least a 25% chance the Aussies win this from here. 

[Sparrowhawk]

11 minutes ago, Lionator said:

The pitch is as flat as it’s been in the series, the ball is doing next to nothing. Chances are we’ll bowl well enough to take 10 wickets but I’d say there’s at least a 25% chance the Aussies win this from here. 

I wouldn't put it that high; they still need near enough another three hundred.

Maybe a 25% chance if the openers are still there at tea (Khawaja might be, but Warner will inevitably do something stupid before then!).

[leicsmac]

There's a reason this target or higher has only been chased successfully seven times in Test history, and only once in England (Bradman's Invincibles at Headingley in 1948), even with every flat pitch and friendly atmosphere conditions imaginable across all those Tests. It's difficult to maintain the momentum necessary for that amount of runs without making enough mistakes, even on a docile pitch and if there's the odd hundred stand.

 

Interestingly, most of the victories have come with only 3 or 4 wickets down maximum, which also indicates that making these big targets tends to only happen when specialist batsmen are still at the crease.

 

 

[st albans fox]

2 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

There's a reason this target or higher has only been chased successfully seven times in Test history, and only once in England (Bradman's Invincibles at Headingley in 1948), even with every flat pitch and friendly atmosphere conditions imaginable across all those Tests. It's difficult to maintain the momentum necessary for that amount of runs without making enough mistakes, even on a docile pitch and if there's the odd hundred stand.

 

Interestingly, most of the victories have come with only 3 or 4 wickets down maximum, which also indicates that making these big targets tends to only happen when specialist batsmen are still at the crease.

 

 

Two days to chase on a very flat pitch isn’t normal in test cricket because of the speed england score at across both innings

normally, the Aussies would only have a around a day to chase this total - the way they can play - (slowly ) means that unless our spinners can get their act together, this is very ‘chaseable’. 

the issue for them here is that rain will shortly curtail the day which mean they have around 90 overs tomorrow to score 280 runs