DezFox Posted 20 July 2023 Share Posted 20 July 2023 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Chelmofox said: Errr no, Evans is no great loss. We lost him to age some time ago. Sorry Was talking about cags Edited 20 July 2023 by DezFox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Les-TA-Jon Posted 20 July 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 20 July 2023 Reality is we had to sell him. Until I see the proof in the pudding though, there's a massive worry about where goals and creativity is going to come from. We scored 60 goals last season, and 45 of them came from this group of players. Tielemans, Maddison and Barnes gone. Iheanacho may well go. Daka might go or not be good enough. Vardy will be 37 during the season. Obviously we'll sign wingers/attackers/forwards between now and the end of the window, but this is the same recruitment system that has spectacularly failed in the last 2-3 windows... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 20 July 2023 Share Posted 20 July 2023 1 minute ago, Les-TA-Jon said: Reality is we had to sell him. Until I see the proof in the pudding though, there's a massive worry about where goals and creativity is going to come from. We scored 60 goals last season, and 45 of them came from this group of players. Tielemans, Maddison and Barnes gone. Iheanacho may well go. Daka might go or not be good enough. Vardy will be 37 during the season. Obviously we'll sign wingers/attackers/forwards between now and the end of the window, but this is the same recruitment system that has spectacularly failed in the last 2-3 windows... Piroe He should be 20+ goals if we got him 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxes96 Posted 20 July 2023 Share Posted 20 July 2023 2 minutes ago, Les-TA-Jon said: Reality is we had to sell him. Until I see the proof in the pudding though, there's a massive worry about where goals and creativity is going to come from. We scored 60 goals last season, and 45 of them came from this group of players. Tielemans, Maddison and Barnes gone. Iheanacho may well go. Daka might go or not be good enough. Vardy will be 37 during the season. Obviously we'll sign wingers/attackers/forwards between now and the end of the window, but this is the same recruitment system that has spectacularly failed in the last 2-3 windows... Surely there’s some double counting in there though?! ie. It’s not 45/60 as some of those will be Maddison assisting Barnes say. Which is only 1 goal, but you’re counting that as 2 goal contributions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les-TA-Jon Posted 20 July 2023 Share Posted 20 July 2023 1 minute ago, Foxes96 said: Surely there’s some double counting in there though?! ie. It’s not 45/60 as some of those will be Maddison assisting Barnes say. Which is only 1 goal, but you’re counting that as 2 goal contributions? Goals. Not goal contributions. We scored 60 goals across all competitions. That group of players scored 45 goals between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxUK Posted 20 July 2023 Share Posted 20 July 2023 1 minute ago, Les-TA-Jon said: Reality is we had to sell him. Until I see the proof in the pudding though, there's a massive worry about where goals and creativity is going to come from. We scored 60 goals last season, and 45 of them came from this group of players. Tielemans, Maddison and Barnes gone. Iheanacho may well go. Daka might go or not be good enough. Vardy will be 37 during the season. Obviously we'll sign wingers/attackers/forwards between now and the end of the window, but this is the same recruitment system that has spectacularly failed in the last 2-3 windows... To be fair, because a lot of people are going with the lost goal scorers angle, both Maddison and Barnes were woeful at defending and part of our starting 11 relegated team. They were the main attacking outlets for us so ofcourse they scored highly. I think we wanted Barnes to be selfish which gets him goals but barely any assists, Maddison was also selfish, too selfish in the second half of last season wasn't he... We always heard from the Northern Irish fraud how he wanted more players to chip in with goals and it never quite happened. I'm not worried: - Vardy vs Championship defenders and Goalkeepers. - Maddison position in the team replaced. - Barnes position replaced. We will score goals and lots of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 20 July 2023 Share Posted 20 July 2023 1 minute ago, Foxes96 said: Surely there’s some double counting in there though?! ie. It’s not 45/60 as some of those will be Maddison assisting Barnes say. Which is only 1 goal, but you’re counting that as 2 goal contributions? It’s the based upon Saudi Accounting Protocols. So fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les-TA-Jon Posted 20 July 2023 Share Posted 20 July 2023 1 minute ago, RedSoxUK said: I'm not worried: - Vardy vs Championship defenders and Goalkeepers. - Maddison position in the team replaced. - Barnes position replaced. We will score goals and lots of them. But...this is exactly my point...? Vardy = will he be good enough and play enough at 37? Maddison replacement = will he be good enough? Can we trust the club to sign a player who replaces even half his contribution? Barnes = as above 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les-TA-Jon Posted 20 July 2023 Share Posted 20 July 2023 7 minutes ago, moore_94 said: Piroe He should be 20+ goals if we got him OK so we'll be at minus 25 goals then haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nalis Posted 20 July 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 20 July 2023 Gordon is getting unfair second hand grief in my opinion. The winger's work ethic is incredible for a start, to be playing in a euro u21 tournament and the same time as presenting Wimbledon shows true dedication. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 20 July 2023 Share Posted 20 July 2023 4 minutes ago, Les-TA-Jon said: OK so we'll be at minus 25 goals then haha New defence should save us 25 goals easy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALC Fox Posted 20 July 2023 Share Posted 20 July 2023 Clearly has his limitations but when on song he's fantastic and we'll miss his output and energy. Anyone booing him if and when he lines up against us needs their head checking. And those saying 'good riddance', exactly what more do you want from a guy who grew up in the county and represented the club in the PL and Champions League, won the FA Cup, posted impressive numbers even in a relegation season, and is going to provide us with circa £40m to help rebuild the squad after his manager and the club's owners basically played chicken with each other all season, which was the real cause of the relegation? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzy_no7 Posted 20 July 2023 Share Posted 20 July 2023 I’m confident we can replace Barnes’ goals through others, new signings and our general better and more cohesive play under Maresca. Very few assists from Barnes last season. Heavily reliant on pace which will start to deteriorate after a couple more seasons. I’m just not as gutted as others about him going, especially for this fee. Feel he lacks technical ability and hasn’t much of a footballing brain. Can see him having an injury or two in the future and it affecting his pace/acceleration. (See Pato, Sturridge etc) Decent money. Reinvest in 3 more players. We go again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaqq Posted 20 July 2023 Share Posted 20 July 2023 Gutted about this, him and KDH were the two I wanted us to keep. Everyone talking about 40m will give us 2/3 new players, I’m not that confident in us being able to pull it off, especially knowing our track record of replacing wingers that do well for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesta Legend Posted 20 July 2023 Share Posted 20 July 2023 3 minutes ago, Les-TA-Jon said: But...this is exactly my point...? Vardy = will he be good enough and play enough at 37? Maddison replacement = will he be good enough? Can we trust the club to sign a player who replaces even half his contribution? Barnes = as above Daka will score too and @Finnegan has made some good points on that 😁 At the moment we're still assembling the squad, it's premature to be worried who knows who we'll bring in. We weren't keeping those players so it's pointless being concerned for their loss of goals as that was inevitable. Anyone who thinks we were keeping them need a reality check. All of this is a consequence of relegation we have to rebuild / cut costs and there is no guarantee it will work. We're here now and losing our best players and taking risks is WHAT will happen. Can I suddenly trust they've resolved the systematic flaws they've had with recruitment (amongst other things) in a few months, no, but I've got my season ticket and will go along for the ride anyway. I think we've made some good signings so far and I hope some creativity and wingers are next - which by all rumours looks like we at least in the market to do that. Let's see. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les-TA-Jon Posted 20 July 2023 Share Posted 20 July 2023 4 minutes ago, Lesta Legend said: Daka will score too and @Finnegan has made some good points on that 😁 At the moment we're still assembling the squad, it's premature to be worried who knows who we'll bring in. We weren't keeping those players so it's pointless being concerned for their loss of goals as that was inevitable. Anyone who thinks we were keeping them need a reality check. All of this is a consequence of relegation we have to rebuild / cut costs and there is no guarantee it will work. We're here now and losing our best players and taking risks is WHAT will happen. Can I suddenly trust they've resolved the systematic flaws they've had with recruitment (amongst other things) in a few months, no, but I've got my season ticket and will go along for the ride anyway. I think we've made some good signings so far and I hope some creativity and wingers are next - which by all rumours looks like we at least in the market to do that. Let's see. That's exactly what I'm saying. I'm not lamenting the loss of the players (which we all agree was inevitable with combination of relegation, contract situation and value of asset), I'm simply saying, thay crop of players demonstrably scored 75% of our goals, and yes we will replace them, but if those replacements are anything like the type of player we have signed in the last 18-24 months (i.e not good enough), then we will struggle. So I'm not trying to be pessimistic per se, I'm simply pointing out the risk we are vulnerable to 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM1968 Posted 20 July 2023 Share Posted 20 July 2023 33 minutes ago, moore_94 said: Piroe He should be 20+ goals if we got him Piroe is not the FUCHING Messiah. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 20 July 2023 Share Posted 20 July 2023 1 minute ago, ARM1968 said: Piroe is not the FUCHING Messiah. No, but he is the sort of big, bull headed and aggressive type we need to get us 20+ goals this season at least. Mitrovic was terrifying for Fulham , if he is 60% as good , he will do fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastik Man Posted 20 July 2023 Share Posted 20 July 2023 8 minutes ago, ARM1968 said: Piroe is not the FUCHING Messiah. He's a very naughty boy? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OntarioFox Posted 20 July 2023 Share Posted 20 July 2023 9 minutes ago, ARM1968 said: Piroe is not the FUCHING Messiah. He's a very naughty boy? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OntarioFox Posted 20 July 2023 Share Posted 20 July 2023 Just now, Plastik Man said: He's a very naughty boy? jinx! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM1968 Posted 20 July 2023 Share Posted 20 July 2023 Just think he will be disappointingly crap personally. Maybe we will see. Maybe we won’t. A number of positions need filling and the Barnes money won’t fill them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastik Man Posted 20 July 2023 Share Posted 20 July 2023 1 minute ago, OntarioFox said: jinx! Surely if he signs we shall name him Brian! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesta Legend Posted 20 July 2023 Share Posted 20 July 2023 5 minutes ago, Les-TA-Jon said: That's exactly what I'm saying. I'm not lamenting the loss of the players (which we all agree was inevitable with combination of relegation, contract situation and value of asset), I'm simply saying, thay crop of players demonstrably scored 75% of our goals, and yes we will replace them, but if those replacements are anything like the type of player we have signed in the last 18-24 months (i.e not good enough), then we will struggle. So I'm not trying to be pessimistic per se, I'm simply pointing out the risk we are vulnerable to We're very vunerable as the recruitment apparatus that made us a success has slowly been changed for the worst. We very well may struggle, lots needs to be changed. The next few weeks will be interesting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 20 July 2023 Share Posted 20 July 2023 40 minutes ago, Les-TA-Jon said: But...this is exactly my point...? Vardy = will he be good enough and play enough at 37? Maddison replacement = will he be good enough? Can we trust the club to sign a player who replaces even half his contribution? Barnes = as above Vardy is still the same guy from 8/9 years ago in most people's mind And don't worry about it on the other 2 , position replaced. So as long as the delusions manifest into reality, we're golden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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