fuchsntf Posted 27 June 2023 Posted 27 June 2023 On 30/05/2023 at 22:18, Get Carter said: https://foxesofleicester.com/2023/05/30/blame-relegation-leicester-city-1/ I'm going to be reviewing this in articles over the coming days/weeks (see above). But who are you most angry at for this situation and who should shoulder most of the blame. Rudkin? Top? Rodgers? The guy that sits behind you? your mum? that **** on Twitter? Just let it out 😉 They all belonged to the same pot… The most annoying thing…was the relegation..
Fox1norfolk Posted 29 June 2023 Posted 29 June 2023 On 14/06/2023 at 10:33, Tuna said: The players always seem to get a pass from a lot on here - me included - they were capable of getting us out of the mess and failed. Still can't see past Top for ultimate responsibility for the relegation. But Rodger’s must be the major culprit, he selected the team, tactics and what’s really annoying teams like Bournemouth are still up there. We were led by an absolute prat he probably thought he was bigger than the club.
weller54 Posted 29 June 2023 Posted 29 June 2023 Maddison!. THAT penalty goes in.. We stay up 🤬🤬!!! 2
filthyfox Posted 29 June 2023 Posted 29 June 2023 Am annoyed with Top. Ultimately the buck stops there 2
plasticfan Posted 30 June 2023 Posted 30 June 2023 Covid! if the damn thing didn't happen, Kingpower could keep pumping money in, we probably will be fine. 1
Spudulike Posted 17 August 2023 Posted 17 August 2023 If the players and manager had an once of the determination and character shown yesterday by the Lionesses then perhaps they could've been forgiven.
OntarioFox Posted 17 August 2023 Posted 17 August 2023 (edited) Had plenty of time to reflect on it now, and also see the team under a different manager and be able to get a glimpse at performance levels. For me the blame is still 80% at Rodgers' feet. His man management absolutely stunk, and whatever joke of a regime he implemented at Seagrave ran our players into the ground and had key assets on the physio bench for months at a time. Players like KDH and Faes not only already look more confident, but fitter too. I won't bang on about it as I've said it before, but possession football doesn't work without pressure and the press, and Rodgers gave up trying to implement that after we won the FA Cup. The results were predictable and catastrophic. Personally I saw marginal improvement under Smith but it was too little, far too late. The other 20% is on the players. Ultimately they're the professionals and they were capable of far more, as proven by most of them being the same players that finished 5th twice. There has to be some sort of self-motivation and pride in their work, and they did not possess it. Edited 17 August 2023 by OntarioFox 3
FrankieADZ Posted 17 August 2023 Posted 17 August 2023 the management of the club/certain staff, as how the hell didnt they see it coming is a joke 1
desertfox2 Posted 17 August 2023 Posted 17 August 2023 (edited) It was so easily avoided so the board for buying the snake oil and Rodgers for selling it to them. Edited 17 August 2023 by desertfox2 1
Free Falling Foxes Posted 17 August 2023 Posted 17 August 2023 I've already said in this thread, 100% Rodgers, though you have to question why he was kept in post for so long. And as for that recent comment from Stowell, where he said they didn't see relegation coming and were even looking at top 8!!! If I was a potential new employer for him, I would quiz him long and hard on why he was so blind, taken in, duped; call it what you will. Though he wasnt alone in that, of course. Ah well, memo to self. It happened, now move on.
fuchsntf Posted 17 August 2023 Posted 17 August 2023 I have halved the coin of doubt and misgivings…and taken my half into this season..Put deep away in my back cupboard.For a Rainy day… I now have forgotten last season & any further crazy thoughts of high treason.. The game is about sport and football,to embrace and accept it nomatter where you are. The game of being a football & club fan, restarted & began a new phase the day we took on the new manager. The competition and its challenge is from now. We have face-up to our 10 months of realities… past is gone but not forgotten(yet)..!, like a sportsman’s new season,or next competition, the real shit is NOW and what immediately lies before us.. A fan, still has to think like the present participants and the competition that lays ahead…. Last season is dead,gone,buried,cremated,. Useless going on about the past,we are now on a rebuild, where our aspirations & ambitions we hope to see grow…Our Football is my only theme I will remain that loyal fan through all weathers or turbulent TV reporting..We have to brush ourselves down,and embrace again the challenge,and not keep pissing in our pants over the past. Though my half coin remains deep in my cupboard until , I see my club takes on again that unwritten purpose , that makes me a fan and earns that respect I hold them to. The slate for me me is wiped clean,the trust of the game they are given.
leicesterseddon Posted 17 August 2023 Posted 17 August 2023 1 hour ago, OntarioFox said: Had plenty of time to reflect on it now, and also see the team under a different manager and be able to get a glimpse at performance levels. For me the blame is still 80% at Rodgers' feet. His man management absolutely stunk, and whatever joke of a regime he implemented at Seagrave ran our players into the ground and had key assets on the physio bench for months at a time. Players like KDH and Faes not only already look more confident, but fitter too. I won't bang on about it as I've said it before, but possession football doesn't work without pressure and the press, and Rodgers gave up trying to implement that after we won the FA Cup. The results were predictable and catastrophic. Personally I saw marginal improvement under Smith but it was too little, far too late. The other 20% is on the players. Ultimately they're the professionals and they were capable of far more, as proven by most of them being the same players that finished 5th twice. There has to be some sort of self-motivation and pride in their work, and they did not possess it. A lot to agree with here. But also Top has to take a share of the blame too. He failed to sack Rodgers early enough in the season when it would have made a difference (maybe in January). Having backed him, he then panicked and sacked him way too late in the season, leaving us managerless before two winnable home games. Not that they are to blame as such, but the fanbase had a role in enabling a general culture of passivity as we hurtled towards relegation. It’s easy to forget now, but there was a huge amount of hostility towards anti-Rodgers fans in the autumn/winter. I imagine quite a lot of those same fans will be in the pub on Saturday saying we didn’t sack him early enough. Funny old world.
phoneticerror Posted 17 August 2023 Posted 17 August 2023 13 minutes ago, leicesterseddon said: A lot to agree with here. But also Top has to take a share of the blame too. He failed to sack Rodgers early enough in the season when it would have made a difference (maybe in January). Having backed him, he then panicked and sacked him way too late in the season, leaving us managerless before two winnable home games. Not that they are to blame as such, but the fanbase had a role in enabling a general culture of passivity as we hurtled towards relegation. It’s easy to forget now, but there was a huge amount of hostility towards anti-Rodgers fans in the autumn/winter. I imagine quite a lot of those same fans will be in the pub on Saturday saying we didn’t sack him early enough. Funny old world. I’d love to see where we would be if that had happened in January. I like the trajectory we’re on at the moment, and wonder if it would feel as positive if we’d scraped through. Would we be playing Dyche-ball and facing a relegation battle still this season.
Bourbon Fox Posted 17 August 2023 Posted 17 August 2023 I mean my first thought is 'Pass The Buck' Rodgers, for his damaging comments in the media and his insistence on keeping certain players out who can clearly play football. But really, that £10m contract was an unnecessary millstone that prevented swift action. To sink that kind of cost into the manager compromised the club's ability to make a quick decision - if we could have chucked him out without worrying about the money, would we have had a new manager at world cup time? That's on the board. 1
Les-TA-Jon Posted 17 August 2023 Posted 17 August 2023 As soon as the main reason/culprit becomes “it was mostly down to Rodgers” it becomes Top. As bad as Rodgers was, he can’t sack himself can he? 3
LFEFox23 Posted 17 August 2023 Posted 17 August 2023 Rodgers of course, But Top has to take a look at himself! Blind loyalty cost us (Rudkin)
leicesterseddon Posted 17 August 2023 Posted 17 August 2023 43 minutes ago, phoneticerror said: I’d love to see where we would be if that had happened in January. I like the trajectory we’re on at the moment, and wonder if it would feel as positive if we’d scraped through. Would we be playing Dyche-ball and facing a relegation battle still this season. Hard to tell I suppose. I don’t think we’d have appointed Smith in January, he always came across as a panic decision. I think we may have appointed another stop-gap manager, before then appointing someone else as a longer-term option this summer if we finished below 15th or so.
Spudulike Posted 17 August 2023 Posted 17 August 2023 47 minutes ago, phoneticerror said: I’d love to see where we would be if that had happened in January. I like the trajectory we’re on at the moment, and wonder if it would feel as positive if we’d scraped through. Would we be playing Dyche-ball and facing a relegation battle still this season. I don't know about January but had we stayed up by the skin of our teeth on the last day then we'd now most probably be starting a new Premier League season with Smith, Terry and Shakey at the helm. In that case we would be heading towards another depressing relegation scrap. Appointing Enzo is far less of a risk in the Championship and not one that would've been taken had the club retained it's status. I actually feel now that we have more chance of playing in the Premier League next season than if we'd avoided relegation. 1 1
phoneticerror Posted 17 August 2023 Posted 17 August 2023 1 hour ago, Spudulike said: I don't know about January but had we stayed up by the skin of our teeth on the last day then we'd now most probably be starting a new Premier League season with Smith, Terry and Shakey at the helm. In that case we would be heading towards another depressing relegation scrap. Appointing Enzo is far less of a risk in the Championship and not one that would've been taken had the club retained it's status. I actually feel now that we have more chance of playing in the Premier League next season than if we'd avoided relegation. Agreed. None of us wanted to go down, but it feels like the reset is actually happening now we’re here, and I’ve enjoyed these last few weeks more than any prolonged period of last season. 1
coolhandfox Posted 17 August 2023 Posted 17 August 2023 Start looking forwards not back...... Close thread. 2
norwichfox Posted 17 August 2023 Posted 17 August 2023 Just now, coolhandfox said: Start looking forwards not back...... Close thread. Not till we're 15 points clear at the top of the championship with only 10 more points to play for...
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