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It appears we're close to getting Casadei and Rak-Sakyi, which might be the bulk of our incomings done without major outgoings.

 

Who do you think will depart? Maresca has today said players need to leave. Although he's also said 6 players have told him they want to stay and with 10 players out of contract next summer I hope the club don't allow this to happen again.

 

I think Castagne, Vestergaard, Iversen, Soumare, Praet and Iheanacho depart. 

 

I've concerns Maresca doesn't rate Souttar or Kristiansen and are free to leave as well but I hope they stay. 

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We willl (probably) know more on August 31st deadline! I heard Everton are still keen on Iheanacho, while I suppose anybody else departing for now from those listed is pure hearsay. I'm surprised Castagne hasn't yet been snapped up by a high calibre foreign or PL team though....considering Arsenal had been rumoured to want him early doors soon after our relegation. Maybe Maresca has won him over, as well as others. A shame about Souttar not being rated by the manager though if the media is to be believed...as the Championship rigours would be ideal for a player like that one would think!

 

Posted
2 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Iversen - loan

Castagne - £10-15m

Soumare - loan

Praet - 50p to Torino

I'd hope for more than that otherwise I don't see us getting many more in. Don't need 4 keepers, we have to somehow shift 2 of Iversen, Ward and Smithies.

 

We need 2 more wingers and an ACM, Casadei isn't an ACM particularly either but at the very least he's creative and box to box.

 

Feels to me like we need so much in and out. 

Posted

Agreed with departures with maybe additionally ward and choudury as well as well. (Or maybe this is more optimism on my part)

 

Think we will get in a RB/RWB in addition to Rak Sakyi and Cesedai and one more attacking mid/winger

Posted
1 minute ago, Ric Flair said:

I'd hope for more than that otherwise I don't see us getting many more in. Don't need 4 keepers, we have to somehow shift 2 of Iversen, Ward and Smithies.

 

We need 2 more wingers and an ACM, Casadei isn't an ACM particularly either but at the very least he's creative and box to box.

 

Feels to me like we need so much in and out. 

I think Stolarczyk could end up out on loan, which I would be happy with anyway as I think it would be better for him, purely because we will be stuck with Ward and Smithies

 

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I think we have to be comfortable letting some players leave on loan to reduce the squad size and the wage bill.

 

Our players values are going to be at there lowest right now. If a player has 2+ years on the contract, get them loaned. If a player has a year left; take what we can get and clear the books.

 

We have to remember a player is worth what someone will pay for them, or what they’ll cost us to replace, not what we deem to be similar players are worth. 
 

We’re not going to shift the keepers, so get young Jakob out on loan and use Iversen as the number 2. 
 

I’d be working on removing a player from every line, almost doesn’t matter who it is. If Vards, N’didi, Faes want to go, let them go. We have the depth on big wages we might not shift, and some of the youth look pretty solid as depth, with Alves/Braybrooke to come back from injury too (not saying they can contribute immediately, but I’d want them around the squad). 
 

KDH and Ricardo I think are the only two untouchables for me.

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I think if I clear the ones we I think will stay in our 25 man squad. 
 

3 x GK

Hermansen, Ward, Smithies

(Ward won’t leave as it’s not in his interest unfortunately)


6 x Defenders

Justin, Coady, Doyle, Vestergaard, Ricardo, Thomas


6 x Midfield

KDH, Ndidi, McAteer, Madivadua, Winks, Choudhury

 

3 x Forward,

Vardy, Mavididi, Daka

 

So that’s 18 squad places. The other 7ish places will largely depend on future incomings.


The others:

 

Iversen - Won’t be number one. Ward won’t leave so it a best for him if he leaves in all honesty. Maybe Ipswich now? 

 

Stolarczky - He needs a season playing and I doubt he’d get that with Hermansen in goals. I could see us sending him somewhere where we don’t charge the earth and the ability to recall in January, similar to what we did with Barnes a few years ago. 

 

Faes / Souttar - I could see us selling one of them them, maybe both. Especially if any future payment is linked to “x” number of appearances.

 

Nelson - Depending on what happens with Faes / Souttar, he could see him going out on loan again.

 

Kristensen - No real noise, however I could see him maybe going, again especially if future appearances are going to cost us millions. 
 

Praet & Castagne - I’m convinced they’ll both be gone by the end of the window. 
 

Iheanacho - He’s still only going to be a bit part part player if he stays. 1 year left and on his wages, we simply need to shift him

on. It’s a shame, as I actually like him. 

 

Soumare - Cut out losses and bin him off. 

 

Albrighton - I’m unsure on this one. I didn’t know whether he’d stay and potentially play a part if we need someone that can deliver set pieces. Like the Teté deal, does he get loaned out if we can get an able replacement in. 

 


Some of those eleven will end up staying, however I could see five or six of them going. 

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I'm gonna be honest, it wouldn't surprise me if we severely underperformed in terms of selling anyone - that's the faith I have in our negotiating abilities when it comes to offloading players we don't want or need to move on.

 

Iversen deserves to move on, Ward, Nacho, Castagne, Praet, Vestergaard, Ndidi should all have left imo but that was my feeling at the start of pre-season when I blindly hoped we'd have more of a rebuild than we seem to have ended up actually doing. As it stands in the now - I'd try to get rid of Ward, Nacho, Castagne, Vestergaard and Praet - as what I deem the most recoupable assets unless we can somehow swing an Ndidi sale to Saudi for big money and/or just players that I think need to go.

 

I would literally pay someone to get Ward off our books and I only say that half tongue-in-cheek!

 

Though that would be under the proviso that we actually get players in afterwards - with Coady injured I can see us keeping Vestergaard yet again, and Ndidi I imagine will be kept around based on his pre-season usage. I can see logic behind keeping Nacho and Castagne in terms of their ability but honestly with a year left on contracts I would just much rather have the money and new players to actually make our squad look less imbalanced and address issues that haven't been solved yet despite the season having just started.

 

I can take or leave Soumare and Hamza simply depending on how Maresca rates them but again wouldn't bat an eyelid if either left really.

 

The rest I'd keep - and really at the point we're at now I highly doubt we end up shifting more than say 4/5 and that's me being optimistic.

 

Gun to my head we sell 2. Something like Nacho and Castagne and that's it - and we end up only getting in one more transfer and a couple loans.

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I think some will go right at the end of the window as we get desperate to shift players on. I think Iversen, Castagne and Ndidi will go and probably Praet. Can't see anyone taking Smithies or Ward unless on loan with wages heavily subsidised. Absolutely do not see Iheanacho being sold.

Posted
6 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

I'd hope for more than that otherwise I don't see us getting many more in. Don't need 4 keepers, we have to somehow shift 2 of Iversen, Ward and Smithies.

 

We need 2 more wingers and an ACM, Casadei isn't an ACM particularly either but at the very least he's creative and box to box.

 

Feels to me like we need so much in and out. 

Which is a joke when you consider we've sold Barnes and Maddison for a combined £90m and cleared a big chunk off the wage bill

Posted
6 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Anyone with less than a year except for Vardy should be told to move on. 

Unless they sign a new contract. But the club should be getting tough and making it their choice rather than the player's, moving them on automatically if they don't sign a new deal. 

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Izzy said:

Who are the 6 who changed their minds?

 

Kel

Praet

Soumare

Daka

Ricardo

Maybe Timny

 

My guess 

Edited by ronnup
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13 minutes ago, westernpark said:

Unless they sign a new contract. But the club should be getting tough and making it their choice rather than the player's, moving them on automatically if they don't sign a new deal. 

I don’t think I’d be offering any of the players with one year left a new contract though. I agree on getting tough and making sure players are well aware we want them to find a new club.

 

Vardy is the only one with a year left I would definitely be keeping. 

 

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4 minutes ago, Viva said:

I don’t think I’d be offering any of the players with one year left a new contract though. I agree on getting tough and making sure players are well aware we want them to find a new club.

 

Vardy is the only one with a year left I would definitely be keeping. 

 

I certainly wouldn’t be keeping many of them! Iheanacho is one who has shown he is an asset at the level above (when given a chance), I’d keep him if he was to sign a new deal. I can’t see Vardy or Daka getting the goals at this level that are needed. I’d love to be wrong about either of them, but the GOAT is getting on a bit now.

Posted (edited)
32 minutes ago, westernpark said:

Unless they sign a new contract. But the club should be getting tough and making it their choice rather than the player's, moving them on automatically if they don't sign a new deal

You do realise there is no way of doing this, right? If a player with one year left refuses to sign for another team, there’s nothing you can do. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, westernpark said:

I certainly wouldn’t be keeping many of them! Iheanacho is one who has shown he is an asset at the level above (when given a chance), I’d keep him if he was to sign a new deal. I can’t see Vardy or Daka getting the goals at this level that are needed. I’d love to be wrong about either of them, but the GOAT is getting on a bit now.

I’d keep Vardy over the others for the fact that we wouldn’t get a fee for him anyway and even a 50% Vardy would still contribute on and off the field. 
I couldn’t bear to see him play for anyone else too! 
 

Iheanacho wouldn’t sign a new deal on vastly reduced terms. We can’t afford to be signing long term contracts on the wages we have been used to paying. 

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5 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

You do realise there is no way of doing this, right? If a player with one year left refuses to sign for another team, there’s nothing you can do. 

I could only really see Vestergaard digging in and refusing to move though. 

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