Jakub Stolarczyk

[FrankieADZ]

9 hours ago, It'sblueupnorth said:

Mental the way Iversen got treated, think Stolar will have a good career at league 1 level but he’s nowhere near the level of iversen

tbf Iversen has gone a few mistakes this season, nothing on Jakub's level and im with you, Iversen is miles ahead of him as well

 

every single week JS does a mistake of some kinda, and most of the time it costs a goal, you cant defend the lad

[Unabomber]

Really poor for their goal

[brookfox]

I think it’s fair to say unless he cuts out the silly mistakes (which seem pretty regular) we couldn’t rely on him should we ever harbour serious ambitions of a top two finish.

[Foxin_Mad]

What was the point of bringing that other keeper in? assume its just someone to pad out the wage bill as its not high enough. 

[Dickov22]

4 minutes ago, Unabomber said:

Really poor for their goal

Ricardo was worse 

[Tommy Fresh]

9 minutes ago, Dickov22 said:

Ricardo was worse 

Criticise him in the Ricardo thread then, regardless of what Ricardo did, it's still absolutely terrible from Stolarczyk, he got away with one of his trademark push the ball in to a dangerous area prior to the goal as well.

Edited 21 January by Tommy Fresh

[Unabomber]

12 minutes ago, Dickov22 said:

Ricardo was worse 

And?

[ceebeefox]

Begovic did nothing wrong and should have kept his place imo. He’d be catching some of what Jacob punched and flapped at. I like to promote and play academy players but keepers mature later , times on his side, but not ours!

[LCFCJohn]

There’s a difference between defending him in a, he was fine kind of way and questioning how the bigger picture is at play here. Same with Nelson.

 

His form has been poor for more than a few games or weeks. We have to go back to about November. Even playing Coventry, you could see how Rushworth was holding shots like the one from Reid and then Fatawu in the second. You’d expect him to save those but he held them too whereas you’d expect Stolarcryk would have palmed both away, whether back into trouble or not who knows.

 

But when people start putting labels like ‘L1 player’ or ‘s**t’ etc, I do have to question with some of these players to what extent it is the club and the environment. It may not be and we may see some of these players fail to do much elsewhere.

 

And the comments about Iverson….the guy was written off in the same way as Stolarcryk when he was here. People were all about a keeper who was better with his feet over goalkeeping ability and I was one who defended Iverson and said he’d do well elsewhere when played to his strengths.

 

But come on, if you did a straight swap now of Iverson and Stolarcryk, do people really think Stol would be crap at Preston and Iverson matching his for there with us? Of course not. 
 

The club is poison and toxic. And whilst some who are being called crap might well be, others (like Iverson) will go and do well elsewhere once away from this. 
 

And that’s before getting started on the lack of any kind of coaching. For me, palming the ball away rather than holding it is a sign of confidence and mental fragility rather than ability. A nervous GK is going to be consciously or subconsciously thinking that he is going to look even worse if he tries to hold the ball and messes it up.

Edited 21 January by LCFCJohn

[Tommy Fresh]

18 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

There’s a difference between defending him in a, he was fine kind of way and questioning how the bigger picture is at play here. Same with Nelson.

 

His form has been poor for more than a few games or weeks. We have to go back to about November. Even playing Coventry, you could see how Rushworth was holding shots like the one from Reid and then Fatawu in the second. You’d expect him to save those but he held them too whereas you’d expect Stolarcryk would have palmed both away, whether back into trouble or not who knows.

 

But when people start putting labels like ‘L1 player’ or ‘s**t’ etc, I do have to question with some of these players to what extent it is the club and the environment. It may not be and we may see some of these players fail to do much elsewhere.

 

And the comments about Iverson….the guy was written off in the same way as Stolarcryk when he was here. People were all about a keeper who was better with his feet over goalkeeping ability and I was one who defended Iverson and said he’d do well elsewhere when played to his strengths.

 

But come on, if you did a straight swap now of Iverson and Stolarcryk, do people really think Stol would be crap at Preston and Iverson matching his for there with us? Of course not. 
 

The club is poison and toxic. And whilst some who are being called crap might well be, others (like Iverson) will go and do well elsewhere once away from this. 
 

And that’s before getting started on the lack of any kind of coaching. For me, palming the ball away rather than holding it is a sign of confidence and mental fragility rather than ability. A nervous GK is going to be consciously or subconsciously thinking that he is going to look even worse if he tries to hold the ball and messes it up.

He's been palming them away all season, Hermansen post injury got a lot of grief from people but the gap between the two is massive. 

[LCFCJohn]

43 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said:

He's been palming them away all season, Hermansen post injury got a lot of grief from people but the gap between the two is massive. 

I didn’t say he hadn’t. Oxford away come to mind.

 

But his form in general seems to have turned since about November.

 

And I stand by everything I said about the state of the club and atmosphere overall.

 

 

[Patrick]

The drop in Jakub's form coincides with the arrival of Marti's goalkeeping coach, Javier Ortiz, who joined the club in October. I don't think he's just become a bad goalkeeper all of a sudden, he's clearly receiving poor coaching and is bereft of confidence.

[lcfc_forever]

2 hours ago, ceebeefox said:

Begovic did nothing wrong and should have kept his place imo. He’d be catching some of what Jacob punched and flapped at. I like to promote and play academy players but keepers mature later , times on his side, but not ours!

Disagree on him doing nothing wrong. He was poor vs Sheff Utd and could have done better on Middlesbrough's equaliser, so it made sense for Jakub to come straight back in giving how good he had been earlier in the season.

 

However, since returning to the team, he's been error prone and confidence is low - surely he'll be working on parrying the ball out of danger? At this time, with what's happening outside of the team as well, experience is important so would be happy if there was a change. 

[FoxKent_88]

37 minutes ago, Patrick said:

The drop in Jakub's form coincides with the arrival of Marti's goalkeeping coach, Javier Ortiz, who joined the club in October. I don't think he's just become a bad goalkeeper all of a sudden, he's clearly receiving poor coaching and is bereft of confidence.

Interesting point this. You wouldn't like to think such a young inexperienced coach would cause a profound change in technique or application in such a short time but Jakub seems to have picked up this awful habit of shoveling or parrying tame shots into dangerous areas. Looked easier to gather that shot last night rather than scoop / shovel into the path of the scorer.  

[Tommy G]

2 hours ago, ceebeefox said:

Begovic did nothing wrong and should have kept his place imo. He’d be catching some of what Jacob punched and flapped at. I like to promote and play academy players but keepers mature later , times on his side, but not ours!

Said this and got shot down - ''we need to develop Jakub bla bla bla''

 

You can't develop a turd, he's not good enough and a liability. 

[coolhandfox]

I think he form is a reflection of the the environment his playing in and manager his playing for. 

 

Who improved under Marti. 

 

He form in the PL was pretty good, his have a blip, but that normal in player develop.

 

 

 

 

[jimsmallman]

I feel bad talking ill of the lad as he does seem to care about the club more than most (see his interview after the WBA game) but I'm afraid I'd pick Begovic every day of the week over him at the minute.  His inability to deal with crosses and corners and the constant parrying the ball is worrying.

[CrazyKopCorner]

I understand Stowell coached him - enough said. 

 

The keepers here have not been coached correctly. 

 

 

[two8two]

59 minutes ago, Patrick said:

The drop in Jakub's form coincides with the arrival of Marti's goalkeeping coach, Javier Ortiz, who joined the club in October. I don't think he's just become a bad goalkeeper all of a sudden, he's clearly receiving poor coaching and is bereft of confidence.

Absolute nonsense.

[Ian Nacho]

Watched the goal back. Very poor from him. 

[two8two]

Absolute nonsense.

[Patrick]

3 minutes ago, CrazyKopCorner said:

I understand Stowell coached him - enough said. 

 

The keepers here have not been coached correctly. 

 

 

Stowell also coached Schmeichel and improved him, he also worked with Caballero and de Bernardin when Enzo was here.

[Patrick]

5 minutes ago, two8two said:

Absolute nonsense.

Do you have an actual counter argument then? Why is it nonsense?

[Stuntman_Mike]

Begovic needs to come back in. 

 

 

[CrazyKopCorner]

22 minutes ago, Patrick said:

Stowell also coached Schmeichel and improved him, he also worked with Caballero and de Bernardin when Enzo was here.

Schmeichel was not the best technical keeper in the world and had a lot of natural ability he relied on heavily