Stefano Sensi

[Muzzy_no7]

We can now just sign him in June on a free. 
 

Surely Braybrooke and Alves will be involved soon? 

[lcfc_forever]

Here is a summary of the Athletic article:

• Inter were reluctant to do a deal which meant they got no money when Sensi became a free agent, and looked into a contract extension with a sale to protect their interest (that was reported in the Italian media). We couldn't afford a payment due to FFP so couldn't just buy him. 
• Contract extension seemed to be the solution arrived at but meant the deal was more complicated
• We pushed to sign him as Maresca was keen, but we were being particularly careful to avoid FFP issues
• The deal then got bogged down with the lawyers, Inter took longer than expected but we gave them extra time
• Problem then was when we then got the term sheet, Leicester's document in response was longer due to EFL requirements 
• Their lawyers were surprised by the length of it and then had amendments but there wasn't enough time for Leicester's lawyers to review them 

Sounds like a mess but issues on both sides. Not a Rudkin fan by any means - he should have gone for what happened the previous season - but there was more to this. 

 

The big problem I think was our expectations were heightened by the likes of Romano when it's clear there wasn't a deal in place, and it took the deadline day for both parties to give ground and try to get this over the line. But then the legal issues scuppered it. 

[RyCleary]

20 minutes ago, lcfc_forever said:

Inter needed to accept that and they weren't willing to unless there was no other option. 

Why not have a player coming in on loan as a backup for that scenario?

[lcfc_forever]

3 minutes ago, RyCleary said:

Why not have a player coming in on loan as a backup for that scenario?

Exactly, that's the criticism here. 

[john ridley]

According to the Italian press it was us that was at fault not sending the signed papers across. 

[Lestagirl]

4 hours ago, MendhamFox said:

I am based in the US and 100% saw the 'holding up the shirt' picture (it was the yellow away kit) on Facebook yesterday last night (middle of the night UK time). However, I cannot find the picture anywhere this morning (for obvious reasons......)

 

Must have hurt even more considering he got kitted out then told to give it back!   

Just so you know you did see it!

[st albans fox]

43 minutes ago, lcfc_forever said:

Here is a summary of the Athletic article:

• Inter were reluctant to do a deal which meant they got no money when Sensi became a free agent, and looked into a contract extension with a sale to protect their interest (that was reported in the Italian media). We couldn't afford a payment due to FFP so couldn't just buy him. 
• Contract extension seemed to be the solution arrived at but meant the deal was more complicated
• We pushed to sign him as Maresca was keen, but we were being particularly careful to avoid FFP issues
• The deal then got bogged down with the lawyers, Inter took longer than expected but we gave them extra time
• Problem then was when we then got the term sheet, Leicester's document in response was longer due to EFL requirements 
• Their lawyers were surprised by the length of it and then had amendments but there wasn't enough time for Leicester's lawyers to review them 

Sounds like a mess but issues on both sides. Not a Rudkin fan by any means - he should have gone for what happened the previous season - but there was more to this. 

 

The big problem I think was our expectations were heightened by the likes of Romano when it's clear there wasn't a deal in place, and it took the deadline day for both parties to give ground and try to get this over the line. But then the legal issues scuppered it. 

This should have been sorted earlier in the week. Can’t think why it wasn’t ……

[Chelmofox]

12 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

This should have been sorted earlier in the week. Can’t think why it wasn’t ……

Well it does sat that Inter took longer than expected. It takes 2 to get to a position where you are comfortable to start the 'final phase' of the process. I'm sure there is even more than shown above, but we should probably have pulled out as soon as contract extension started being mentioned. The player had 1/2 season left and should have just loaned him out. Bet they don't extend his contract now.

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

1 hour ago, lcfc_forever said:

Here is a summary of the Athletic article:

• Inter were reluctant to do a deal which meant they got no money when Sensi became a free agent, and looked into a contract extension with a sale to protect their interest (that was reported in the Italian media). We couldn't afford a payment due to FFP so couldn't just buy him. 
• Contract extension seemed to be the solution arrived at but meant the deal was more complicated
• We pushed to sign him as Maresca was keen, but we were being particularly careful to avoid FFP issues
• The deal then got bogged down with the lawyers, Inter took longer than expected but we gave them extra time
• Problem then was when we then got the term sheet, Leicester's document in response was longer due to EFL requirements 
• Their lawyers were surprised by the length of it and then had amendments but there wasn't enough time for Leicester's lawyers to review them 

Sounds like a mess but issues on both sides. Not a Rudkin fan by any means - he should have gone for what happened the previous season - but there was more to this. 

 

The big problem I think was our expectations were heightened by the likes of Romano when it's clear there wasn't a deal in place, and it took the deadline day for both parties to give ground and try to get this over the line. But then the legal issues scuppered it. 

Good summary there. Much more to it than we thought yesterday, but still the main criticism of leaving it to the last minute seems to remain. Surely these documents should have been drafted days in advance, not in the hours before the deadline.

[lcfc_forever]

3 minutes ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

Good summary there. Much more to it than we thought yesterday, but still the main criticism of leaving it to the last minute seems to remain. Surely these documents should have been drafted days in advance, not in the hours before the deadline.

Thanks. Takes two to tango, and Inter seemingly were reluctant to do a non-upfront fee deal. 

[FrankieADZ]

1 hour ago, lcfc_forever said:

Here is a summary of the Athletic article:

• Inter were reluctant to do a deal which meant they got no money when Sensi became a free agent, and looked into a contract extension with a sale to protect their interest (that was reported in the Italian media). We couldn't afford a payment due to FFP so couldn't just buy him. 
• Contract extension seemed to be the solution arrived at but meant the deal was more complicated
• We pushed to sign him as Maresca was keen, but we were being particularly careful to avoid FFP issues
• The deal then got bogged down with the lawyers, Inter took longer than expected but we gave them extra time
• Problem then was when we then got the term sheet, Leicester's document in response was longer due to EFL requirements 
• Their lawyers were surprised by the length of it and then had amendments but there wasn't enough time for Leicester's lawyers to review them 

Sounds like a mess but issues on both sides. Not a Rudkin fan by any means - he should have gone for what happened the previous season - but there was more to this. 

 

The big problem I think was our expectations were heightened by the likes of Romano when it's clear there wasn't a deal in place, and it took the deadline day for both parties to give ground and try to get this over the line. But then the legal issues scuppered it. 

so both at fault then, feel sorry for Sensi in all this, hes not going to be playing any first team football till least next season, and theres no way for a mutual termination of his contract either id say

[lcfc_forever]

Just now, FrankieADZ said:

so both at fault then, feel sorry for Sensi in all this, hes not going to be playing any first team football till least next season, and theres no way for a mutual termination of his contract either id say

Yeah, feel for him the most but sounds like the club will go for him again when his contract expires. 

[funkyrobot]

44 minutes ago, Lestagirl said:

Just so you know you did see it!

And it was a clickbait comedy fake 😂

[FrankieADZ]

1 minute ago, lcfc_forever said:

Yeah, feel for him the most but sounds like the club will go for him again when his contract expires. 

totally, as hes not going to be playing, just sat on the bench.

 

pretty foolish from Inter imo, should have just gone with the loan fee, as at least theyd have still got something for him, cos i cant see him staying next season, now they are paying his wages and hes just going to sit on the bench

[MPH]

1 hour ago, lcfc_forever said:

Here is a summary of the Athletic article:

• Inter were reluctant to do a deal which meant they got no money when Sensi became a free agent, and looked into a contract extension with a sale to protect their interest (that was reported in the Italian media). We couldn't afford a payment due to FFP so couldn't just buy him. 
• Contract extension seemed to be the solution arrived at but meant the deal was more complicated
• We pushed to sign him as Maresca was keen, but we were being particularly careful to avoid FFP issues
• The deal then got bogged down with the lawyers, Inter took longer than expected but we gave them extra time
• Problem then was when we then got the term sheet, Leicester's document in response was longer due to EFL requirements 
• Their lawyers were surprised by the length of it and then had amendments but there wasn't enough time for Leicester's lawyers to review them 

Sounds like a mess but issues on both sides. Not a Rudkin fan by any means - he should have gone for what happened the previous season - but there was more to this. 

 

The big problem I think was our expectations were heightened by the likes of Romano when it's clear there wasn't a deal in place, and it took the deadline day for both parties to give ground and try to get this over the line. But then the legal issues scuppered it. 

 

It makes a mockery of the claims that we were being incompetent.

[BKLFox]

Sounds like Inter balls’d that up for him/themselves.

 

I wonder if he will sign a pre-contract agreement with us in coming days, he knows it wasn’t just 6mths we wanted him for, he’s met Enzo, seen the training facilities etc and hopefully will be a Premier league club which brings the financial rewards.

Doesn’t look like he’s going to be inundated with offers from the rich clubs so unless he wants to stay in his homeland with a lesser club there does seem to be a lot going for us as an option.

[st albans fox]

25 minutes ago, BKLFox said:

Sounds like Inter balls’d that up for him/themselves.

 

I wonder if he will sign a pre-contract agreement with us in coming days, he knows it wasn’t just 6mths we wanted him for, he’s met Enzo, seen the training facilities etc and hopefully will be a Premier league club which brings the financial rewards.

Doesn’t look like he’s going to be inundated with offers from the rich clubs so unless he wants to stay in his homeland with a lesser club there does seem to be a lot going for us as an option.

We can’t do a pre contract until we’re promoted

 

46 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

Well it does sat that Inter took longer than expected. It takes 2 to get to a position where you are comfortable to start the 'final phase' of the process. I'm sure there is even more than shown above, but we should probably have pulled out as soon as contract extension started being mentioned. The player had 1/2 season left and should have just loaned him out. Bet they don't extend his contract now.

the contract extension was down to us. We didn’t want to pay the fee for the deal now and asked for it to be loaded as an add on at the end based on promotion. but if we weren’t promoted then inter get nothing as the player is out of contract. Hence inter needed to give the player a years extension if we failed to be promoted so that they could then still sell him in the summer.  
 

This introduced  complexities to the contract which were expected by Inter’s lawyers as it seems they have no experience of championship paperwork which differs and is longer than premier league. 
 

it’s not their fault 

it’s our fault because we should have sorted this out before yesterday evening in case we shouldn’t get a player out and therefore couldn’t pay a fee now and stay within PSR. 

[jbflcfc]

1 hour ago, lcfc_forever said:

Here is a summary of the Athletic article:

• Inter were reluctant to do a deal which meant they got no money when Sensi became a free agent, and looked into a contract extension with a sale to protect their interest (that was reported in the Italian media). We couldn't afford a payment due to FFP so couldn't just buy him. 
• Contract extension seemed to be the solution arrived at but meant the deal was more complicated
• We pushed to sign him as Maresca was keen, but we were being particularly careful to avoid FFP issues
• The deal then got bogged down with the lawyers, Inter took longer than expected but we gave them extra time
• Problem then was when we then got the term sheet, Leicester's document in response was longer due to EFL requirements 
• Their lawyers were surprised by the length of it and then had amendments but there wasn't enough time for Leicester's lawyers to review them 

Sounds like a mess but issues on both sides. Not a Rudkin fan by any means - he should have gone for what happened the previous season - but there was more to this. 

 

The big problem I think was our expectations were heightened by the likes of Romano when it's clear there wasn't a deal in place, and it took the deadline day for both parties to give ground and try to get this over the line. But then the legal issues scuppered it. 

Well I mean this is clear as day that it’s not as simple as people make out.

 

I'm not Rudkins biggest fan but people think transfers are a tick box exercise & are quick to judge the hierarchy at the club, looks like inter made this complicated for us.

 

Certain few on here have played to much FM.

[BKLFox]

31 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

We can’t do a pre contract until we’re promoted

Why’s that? 

Wouldn’t cost anything on the books this financial would it? 

 

You mean because we don’t know where we will be therefore wouldn’t know what to offer him?

 

Sorry if being thick 

 

 

Edited 2 February 2024 by BKLFox

[st albans fox]

4 minutes ago, BKLFox said:

Why’s that? 

Wouldn’t cost anything on the books this financial would it? 

 

You mean because we don’t know where we will be therefore wouldn’t know what to offer him?

 

Sorry if being thick 

 

 

Yes

If we don’t go up then we wouldn’t be able to afford him 

if we dont go up then the player won’t want to be here 

Edited 2 February 2024 by st albans fox

[BKLFox]

9 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Yes

If we don’t go up then we wouldn’t be able to afford him 

if we dont go up then the player won’t want to be here 

Gotcha 😉 cheers 

[Chelmofox]

43 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

We can’t do a pre contract until we’re promoted

 

the contract extension was down to us. We didn’t want to pay the fee for the deal now and asked for it to be loaded as an add on at the end based on promotion. but if we weren’t promoted then inter get nothing as the player is out of contract. Hence inter needed to give the player a years extension if we failed to be promoted so that they could then still sell him in the summer.  
 

This introduced  complexities to the contract which were expected by Inter’s lawyers as it seems they have no experience of championship paperwork which differs and is longer than premier league. 
 

it’s not their fault 

it’s our fault because we should have sorted this out before yesterday evening in case we shouldn’t get a player out and therefore couldn’t pay a fee now and stay within PSR. 

Sounds like the contract extension was drawn up as the solution to inter not wanting to lose him without a fee come the end of the year and us not wanting to pay a fee now.  To be fair, us paying a fee for for the last 1/2 season he had a left on his contract always sounds barmy.   This could have been a straight loan deal, it wasn't and herin lies compilations.  In a way, i don't really care who's 'fault' it is. Sometimes deals have issues and they don't work out (and it sounds like lawyers on both sides played their part). I've been in business long enough to see it happen all the time. Move on.

[HitchinFox]

2 hours ago, john ridley said:

According to the Italian press it was us that was at fault not sending the signed papers across. 

Knowing Rudkin, he sent the fvking paperwork to AC Milan. 

[Viva]

1 minute ago, Chelmofox said:

Sounds like the contract extension was drawn up as the solution to inter not wanting to lose him without a fee come the end of the year and us not wanting to pay a fee now.  To be fair, us paying a fee for for the last 1/2 season he had a left on his contract always sounds barmy.   This could have been a straight loan deal, it wasn't and herin lies compilations.  In a way, i don't really care who's 'fault' it is. Sometimes deals have issues and they don't work out (and it sounds like lawyers on both sides played their part). I've been in business long enough to see it happen all the time. Move on.

That sounds like a decent summary. The complete meltdown of so many people on here for not getting this deal over the line was ridiculous. 

[UniFox21]

Athletic reporting we'll go back for him in the summer