Sack him

[adejo92]

There's been a gradual disappearance of the Enzo worshippers who used to ridicule anyone who dared question him.

 

Strange that...

[FOXSE]

If we sacked Enzo right now, which half decent manager in their right mind would consider taking the leicester job? 

 

If we get promoted this season, there will still be people wanting him sacked, because 'we almost didn't get promoted though'.

[FOXSE]

1 minute ago, adejo92 said:

There's been a gradual disappearance of the Enzo worshippers who used to ridicule anyone who dared question him.

 

Strange that...

I think you are talking about when we had won something like 20 out of 25 games and people were moaning saying it wasn't good enough? I am a bit unhappy with how things are now, but I have missed out. I could have been unhappy the whole season!

[Happy Fox]

1 minute ago, FOXSE said:

If we sacked Enzo right now, which half decent manager in their right mind would consider taking the leicester job? 

 

If we get promoted this season, there will still be people wanting him sacked, because 'we almost didn't get promoted though'.

Someone that has experience at this level to get teams promoted: Steve Cooper would be a great short term option.

 

Scotty Parker his ceiling is not as high as Maresca but has managed to get teams promoted at this level.

 

We need to make a change , Enzo had an international break and the players still played shilo post international break and that’s on him.

 

 

[Dahnsouff]

5 minutes ago, Happy Fox said:

Someone that has experience at this level to get teams promoted: Steve Cooper would be a great short term option.

 

Scotty Parker his ceiling is not as high as Maresca but has managed to get teams promoted at this level.

 

We need to make a change , Enzo had an international break and the players still played shilo post international break and that’s on him.

Would Mr Magic Manager takes stop us missing easy chances? Seriously, they may. I am of the opinion that if we do not manage to limp our way to promotion, we burn it all down and do a root and branch renewal.

Edited 30 March 2024 by Dahnsouff

[boots60]

A few short months ago, anyone that posted any criticism of Enzo's tactics were met with a barrage of abuse, generally suggesting the critic was a bit 'dense' & didn't understand the modern way of playing football, conveniently forgetting the tactics that enabled us to win the Premier league.

Now, a few short months later & less than 24 hours after a 1-0 away defeat (albeit a very poor performance) we are 21 pages into a 'Sack him' thread.

Who says football fans are fickle?

[EastAnglianFox]

Even if we do scrape over the line id be more than happy if he walked away to protect his ego and we get Cooper in for the relegation fight next season

[FOXSE]

4 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Would Mr Magic Manager takes stop us missing easy chances? Seriously, they may. I am of the opinion that if we do not manage to limp our way to promotion, we burn it all down and do a root and branch renewal.

'Wow, you got promoted! It got tight at the end, but your team pulled together and came though. You must be delighted!'

 

'No, burn it all down!'

 

😄 

 

Can we have a poll of how many times foxestalkers have been divorced? It has to be an average of at least 2, right?

 

'I've been married 5 years, and it's been largely great, but she forgot to put the bins out last Tuesday....'

[Groby_Blue]

While the dip in form and the way we are playing is more than concerning and questions about Enzo definitely need to be asked, replacing him now would be a massive, massive gamble. 

 

So we get shot of a manager who the players genuinely seem to like playing for and bring in someone like Cooper who doesn't know the players, doesn't know who will fit into his style and how he wants to play. And the players might not like him, might be utterly pissed off that Maresca has been sacked and might just down tools. We've all seen it before when a manager gets replaced. 

 

And if it doesn't work, the players don't like or can't play the new manager's system and we absolutely collapse and miss promotion, we are screwed. I think there's more chance of that happening than if we stick with Enzo. 

 

I know Vardy missed a couple of absolute sitters yesterday but if they'd gone in, we'd be back on top of the league and this, understandable, panic wouldn't have started.

 

I think we have more chance of screwing this up now if we change manager rather than stick with Maresca in all honesty. If we miss out with him then he's got to go, simple. But the bigger gamble for me is pulling the trigger now. 

[StanSP]

27 minutes ago, adejo92 said:

There's been a gradual disappearance of the Enzo worshippers who used to ridicule anyone who dared question him.

 

Strange that...

Amazing that such a vast array of individuals all have different levels of tolerance for something. 

Be pretty damn weird if everyone just turned at exactly the same time. 

[Parker Pen]

Lose at home to Norwich on Monday and both Leeds and Ipswich win then gaps of 5 and 4 points open up. Puts a whole new perspective on things and we are heading for the playoffs in relegation form. 
 

Whilst I hope that we win and go unbeaten until the end of the season I get that horrible feeling that’s not how it goes for us. For all his bravado Enzos managerial inexperience is now showing. His back room staff are also inexperienced in the same respect.

The Ivory Coast sacked their manager in the group stage of the AFCON and went on to win the competition . So it can work. 

[Fox1norfolk]

2 hours ago, sylofox said:

This is like Rodgers all over again. Same style of play with no plan B.

 

Sleep walking into oblivion. We'll wake up in div 2 without a pot to piss in.

I don’t pretend to be an expert football tactician but the tippy tappy walking football confused many teams in the first half of the season, but now we have been found out. This was demonstrated yesterday, the slow almost static build up allowed Bristol to maximise their defence so our wingers never stood a chance, it was never 1v1 it was 1v4. The rare occasions in the past when we played swift precise movements cutting through teams has disappeared . The players for some reason seem reluctant to try simple straight forward attacks, 

[FOXSE]

2 minutes ago, Fox1norfolk said:

I don’t pretend to be an expert football tactician but the tippy tappy walking football confused many teams in the first half of the season, but now we have been found out. This was demonstrated yesterday, the slow almost static build up allowed Bristol to maximise their defence so our wingers never stood a chance, it was never 1v1 it was 1v4. The rare occasions in the past when we played swift precise movements cutting through teams has disappeared . The players for some reason seem reluctant to try simple straight forward attacks, 

We still created 3 or 4 clear opportunities, any of which we take, we win the game comfortably.

[Guest leatherhead32]

1 minute ago, Fox1norfolk said:

I don’t pretend to be an expert football tactician but the tippy tappy walking football confused many teams in the first half of the season, but now we have been found out. This was demonstrated yesterday, the slow almost static build up allowed Bristol to maximise their defence so our wingers never stood a chance, it was never 1v1 it was 1v4. The rare occasions in the past when we played swift precise movements cutting through teams has disappeared . The players for some reason seem reluctant to try simple straight forward attacks, 

im also not tactical but like the way we play , however there is room for direct play when it aint working even if it means going with long ball to wings , i maybe wrong and to be fair at mo we are in great position due to the big gap we made when it was working.

[SuperMike]

25 minutes ago, Groby_Blue said:

While the dip in form and the way we are playing is more than concerning and questions about Enzo definitely need to be asked, replacing him now would be a massive, massive gamble. 

 

So we get shot of a manager who the players genuinely seem to like playing for and bring in someone like Cooper who doesn't know the players, doesn't know who will fit into his style and how he wants to play. And the players might not like him, might be utterly pissed off that Maresca has been sacked and might just down tools. We've all seen it before when a manager gets replaced. 

 

And if it doesn't work, the players don't like or can't play the new manager's system and we absolutely collapse and miss promotion, we are screwed. I think there's more chance of that happening than if we stick with Enzo. 

 

But do they??

Seeing the looks on the players faces  (notaby KDH and Mavididi) and the body language throughout the team - I have my doubts.

[J. James]

Personally l find the situation incredibly frustrating and annoying, seeing what our trajectory is and being totally powerless to change it.. As the man said "it's like deja vu all over again".

 

I truly believe those in control of our club exist in a different reality, they don't see because they don't want to see, they appear to be in the " Vardy takes those two chances and we win" camp, ignoring the fact that our opponents were better than us in every way, deserved their win and that we have been found out.

 

This blinkered attitude is what sent us down last season.

 

And nothing has changed since last season, we have another cock sure, arrogant, one dimensional manager who is incapable of change, reacting to a crisis or even recognising that other managers may possibly have worked his single tactic out!

 

The result will be yet another nail in the coffin of this ineptly run club.

 

[the draper]

56 minutes ago, FOXSE said:

If we sacked Enzo right now, which half decent manager in their right mind would consider taking the leicester job? 

 

If we get promoted this season, there will still be people wanting him sacked, because 'we almost didn't get promoted though'.

Money talks 

 

 

[Ric Flair]

19 minutes ago, FOXSE said:

We still created 3 or 4 clear opportunities, any of which we take, we win the game comfortably.

I keep reading this, but the evidence in the last 6 weeks or more isn't there. We don't have any interest in continuing to create chances when we go 1 nil up, ever since the Leeds game we've froze in the headlights. 

 

Bristol City looked dangerous all game, all that would have happened is we'd have gone 1 nil up and invited them on even more. We'd have needed to be more fortunate than we already were yesterday to hold on, we saw at Sunderland how much we rode our luck in such circumstances.

 

Our mentality is all over the place. There's not an in game scenario currently where we're strong.

[String fellow]

14 minutes ago, FOXSE said:

We still created 3 or 4 clear opportunities, any of which we take, we win the game comfortably.

Except that, had one of them gone in, the game might have changed completely, with us hanging on to a slim lead before finally running out of steam (again) and still losing. Right now it seems like our best chance of automatic promotion is if Leeds or Ipswich lose their mojo, just as we have.

[mod hero]

28 minutes ago, FOXSE said:

We still created 3 or 4 clear opportunities, any of which we take, we win the game comfortably.

So did Bristol

[VLC86]

20 minutes ago, the draper said:

Money talks 

 

 

Seagrave must be a quiet place at the minute as we have **** all available.

[mod hero]

8 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

I keep reading this, but the evidence in the last 6 weeks or more isn't there. We don't have any interest in continuing to create chances when we go 1 nil up, ever since the Leeds game we've froze in the headlights. 

 

Bristol City looked dangerous all game, all that would have happened is we'd have gone 1 nil up and invited them on even more. We'd have needed to be more fortunate than we already were yesterday to hold on, we saw at Sunderland how much we rode our luck in such circumstances.

 

Our mentality is all over the place. There's not an in game scenario currently where we're strong.

Nailed it.

[Pliskin]

1 hour ago, Dahnsouff said:

Would Mr Magic Manager takes stop us missing easy chances? Seriously, they may. I am of the opinion that if we do not manage to limp our way to promotion, we burn it all down and do a root and branch renewal.

Confidence breads confidence, and if the players don’t believe in the system then yes, it can impact their performance. A confident Vardy buries those chances, if you’re playing with a shred of self doubt you miss them. 

[Pliskin]

16 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

I keep reading this, but the evidence in the last 6 weeks or more isn't there. We don't have any interest in continuing to create chances when we go 1 nil up, ever since the Leeds game we've froze in the headlights. 

 

Bristol City looked dangerous all game, all that would have happened is we'd have gone 1 nil up and invited them on even more. We'd have needed to be more fortunate than we already were yesterday to hold on, we saw at Sunderland how much we rode our luck in such circumstances.

 

Our mentality is all over the place. There's not an in game scenario currently where we're strong.

Exactly this. 

[Guest J-FOX]

Some people are associating the decision to sack or not with promotion. It is so much more fundamental than temporal positioning in the table.

Do you not remember how all the media darlings would rant and rave about the amazing work of Brendan Rodgers when we fans knew it was not all roses.

Do you not remember how Rodgers himself implied that "little old Leicester" were lucky to have him.

Enzo has already threatened to walk if we show any kind of unhappiness with his system. I challenge him to have the courage of his convictions and walk.

Enzo ball is turgid, soulless, anti-entertainment. It is predictable, ineffective and works against the expression of individual footballers on the pitch.

There is no flair, individual brilliance, unpredictable excitement, passion, fire or any other positive emotion that emanates from our national team sport.

With our supposed superior players and big salaries we still fail to dominate or control teams or the flow of the game - so what value does Enzo ball actually have?

It is anti-football. For how many years have I turned on the TV and then turned it off again when I see it is Man City.

We have a sub-par version minus the world class players and minus the trophies.

 

If we win the league = Enzo out !

If we finish second = Enzo out !

If we win the playoffs = Enzo out !

If we bottle the playoffs = Enzo out !

 

Football for the fans should be about entertainment.

 

At this appropriate time of the year we can even draw from the bible to express what should be our shared disgust with the current LCFC project.

 

What will it profit a man if he gains the whole world yet forfeits his soul? Mark. 8/36

 

I would give up all the promotions in the world for the sake of good old-fashioned emotive entertainment at the football.

Leicester 5-1 Cambridge comes to mind and NOT for the system of play.........

Edited 30 March 2024 by J-FOX