KFS Posted 4 June 2024 Posted 4 June 2024 11 minutes ago, Sly said: Can I be brutal and state Fatawu doesn’t improve Chelsea? Doesn’t seem to matter to them at the moment. Their guy is collecting players like baseball cards
Sly Posted 4 June 2024 Posted 4 June 2024 3 hours ago, KFS said: Doesn’t seem to matter to them at the moment. Their guy is collecting players like baseball cards PSR is coming for them next if they don’t have a fire sale by the 30th June.
honeybradger Posted 4 June 2024 Posted 4 June 2024 6 hours ago, Sly said: Can I be brutal and state Fatawu doesn’t improve Chelsea? I think he's a similar level to Madueke and will turn out better over the course of his career. Madueke is good going forwards but doesn't help defensively at all whereas Fatawu is also good going forwards and helps out a lot defensively. Whether Fatawu is better than Estevao remains to be seen. 1
HybridFox Posted 4 June 2024 Posted 4 June 2024 7 hours ago, Sly said: Can I be brutal and state Fatawu doesn’t improve Chelsea? Good job he's staying at Leicester then
Jock's Hill Posted 5 June 2024 Posted 5 June 2024 I noticed on Sky Sports "in" and "out" premier league transfer lists Fatawu is down as an "in" for us. Think they may be jumping the gun in that?
coolhandfox Posted 5 June 2024 Posted 5 June 2024 9 minutes ago, Jock's Hill said: I noticed on Sky Sports "in" and "out" premier league transfer lists Fatawu is down as an "in" for us. Think they may be jumping the gun in that? It's an obligation all parties agreed to last summer. 2
ClaphamFox Posted 5 June 2024 Posted 5 June 2024 10 minutes ago, Jock's Hill said: I noticed on Sky Sports "in" and "out" premier league transfer lists Fatawu is down as an "in" for us. Think they may be jumping the gun in that? Don't we have an obligation to buy him under the terms of the loan contract? 1
ARM1968 Posted 5 June 2024 Posted 5 June 2024 We have an obligation to buy him at the price already agreed. Do people not understand the world obligation?
Nalis Posted 5 June 2024 Posted 5 June 2024 When we sign him, could he theoretically move in Janaury or does the 2 clubs max in one year rule still exist, ie Sporting and us?
Pliskin Posted 5 June 2024 Posted 5 June 2024 11 minutes ago, ARM1968 said: We have an obligation to buy him at the price already agreed. Do people not understand the world obligation? Obviously not 😂
Jock's Hill Posted 5 June 2024 Posted 5 June 2024 Will we have taken into account the fairly high fee for this? It means we have a lot to do to level out the figures this month even before any "fire sale" begins. If there is even any plan to sell some of our players". We are not renowned for getting deals done quickly so it could come down to the wire (as on deadline days).
wardyfox86 Posted 5 June 2024 Posted 5 June 2024 1 hour ago, Nalis said: When we sign him, could he theoretically move in Janaury or does the 2 clubs max in one year rule still exist, ie Sporting and us? Sporting won't register him in their squad and he won't play an official game, so I don't think it'll matter. 1
coolhandfox Posted 7 June 2024 Posted 7 June 2024 Just now, FoxinNotts said: ……….. ⏰ 👀 Will be in July. 1
FoxinNotts Posted 7 June 2024 Posted 7 June 2024 11 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: Will be in July. I get that for financial reasons the finance side of things should have to happen in July, I just can’t understand why we can’t announce it? 🤷🏻♂️
Bert Posted 7 June 2024 Posted 7 June 2024 7 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said: I get that for financial reasons the finance side of things should have to happen in July, I just can’t understand why we can’t announce it? 🤷🏻♂️ Why would they?
FoxinNotts Posted 7 June 2024 Posted 7 June 2024 2 minutes ago, Bert said: Why would they? To keep people like me happy 1
Terraloon Posted 7 June 2024 Posted 7 June 2024 On 05/06/2024 at 11:33, Pliskin said: Obviously not 😂 If it truly is an obligation to buy then the finances of the deal appear for PSR/ FFP in the 22/23 numbers even if the deal doesn’t go through in the books until the 23/24 year.
Pliskin Posted 7 June 2024 Posted 7 June 2024 12 minutes ago, Terraloon said: If it truly is an obligation to buy then the finances of the deal appear for PSR/ FFP in the 22/23 numbers even if the deal doesn’t go through in the books until the 23/24 year. Really? How does that work? Was he signed when we were still technically under the PL rules and regs?
Terraloon Posted 7 June 2024 Posted 7 June 2024 Just now, Pliskin said: Really? How does that work? Was he signed when we were still technically under the PL rules and regs? I altered my op slightly. Bear in mind if he is bought on an truly obligation to buy there are no conditions attached to the loan The acquisition of a Player’s registration must be first recognised in the Annual Accounts when all significant conditions for the registration of the Player have been satisfied, i.e. it is effectively unconditional, which means that there must be a legally binding agreement between the two clubs (or other arrangement as approved in accordance with Regulation 50.2) and between the acquiring club and the Player 1
Finnegan Posted 7 June 2024 Posted 7 June 2024 41 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said: To keep people like me happy People like you are never happy. 2
moore_94 Posted 7 June 2024 Posted 7 June 2024 5 minutes ago, Terraloon said: I altered my op slightly. Bear in mind if he is bought on an truly obligation to buy there are no conditions attached to the loan The acquisition of a Player’s registration must be first recognised in the Annual Accounts when all significant conditions for the registration of the Player have been satisfied, i.e. it is effectively unconditional, which means that there must be a legally binding agreement between the two clubs (or other arrangement as approved in accordance with Regulation 50.2) and between the acquiring club and the Player It was on the condition that we were promoted and he played a certain amount of games, so surely the conditions weren’t satisfied until then?
Terraloon Posted 7 June 2024 Posted 7 June 2024 7 minutes ago, moore_94 said: It was on the condition that we were promoted and he played a certain amount of games, so surely the conditions weren’t satisfied until then? That then isn’t a obligation to buy it’s a conditional loan. I have no idea if there were conditions but if you are right what day were those conditions met ? These sort of things are never as straightforward as they appear in the surface.
Jimbo Posted 7 June 2024 Posted 7 June 2024 I would bet that for financial reasons, the football season isn't actually finished yet, so technically he would still be on loan. It was reported there were conditions to his loan becoming an obligation to buy, can't remember exactly what the conditions were but it was around him playing a certain amount of games and us gaining promotion. We can all be fairly certain those conditions were met. Once "post season" becomes "pre season" then I'm fairly certain this will be announced 1
FoxinNotts Posted 7 June 2024 Posted 7 June 2024 1 minute ago, Jimbo said: I would bet that for financial reasons, the football season isn't actually finished yet, so technically he would still be on loan. It was reported there were conditions to his loan becoming an obligation to buy, can't remember exactly what the conditions were but it was around him playing a certain amount of games and us gaining promotion. We can all be fairly certain those conditions were met. Once "post season" becomes "pre season" then I'm fairly certain this will be announced Thanks. That’s actually cleared it up for me. I am now happy
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