US Presidential Election 2024

[VinceNoir]

Victory speech was a bit bizarre. Just waffled on about anything without adding any substance whatsoever.
 

Reminded me a bit of the rubbish school essay I wrote when I was 14. Basically just scribbling down a bunch of incoherent nonsense without really saying anything 

[when_you're_smiling]

5 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said:

You think people in politics - most of whom dream of being President - will vote en masse to allow Trump to keep going?  I seriously doubt it

I hope you’re right, but there’s not been much from Republicans in opposing Trump yet, especially if not going against him will be a boost for their popularity in their own patches.

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

1 minute ago, VinceNoir said:

Victory speech was a bit bizarre. Just waffled on about anything without adding any substance whatsoever.
 

Reminded me a bit of the rubbish school essay I wrote when I was 14. Basically just scribbling down a bunch of incoherent nonsense without really saying anything 

That's because he's inherently stupid like the thickos who voted for him. 

Edited 6 November 2024 by Cadno'r Cymoedd

[fox_up_north]

1 minute ago, VinceNoir said:

Victory speech was a bit bizarre. Just waffled on about anything without adding any substance whatsoever.
 

Reminded me a bit of the rubbish school essay I wrote when I was 14. Basically just scribbling down a bunch of incoherent nonsense without really saying anything 

I see you're unfamiliar with Mr Trump's work. Your ears better buckle up, they're going for a ride...

Edited 6 November 2024 by fox_up_north

[Otis]

1 minute ago, VinceNoir said:

Victory speech was a bit bizarre. Just waffled on about anything without adding any substance whatsoever.
 

Reminded me a bit of the rubbish school essay I wrote when I was 14. Basically just scribbling down a bunch of incoherent nonsense without really saying anything 

He probably read out Kamala's by mistake.

[bovril]

46 minutes ago, trabuch said:

America is ****ed

Pretty bad news for us too

[EastAnglianFox]

Did he say Farage was a European!?

 

Nige won’t be liking that 

[LanguedocFox]

2 minutes ago, VinceNoir said:

Victory speech was a bit bizarre. Just waffled on about anything without adding any substance whatsoever.
 

Reminded me a bit of the rubbish school essay I wrote when I was 14. Basically just scribbling down a bunch of incoherent nonsense without really saying anything 

It will be interesting, over the next couple of years, to see if there’s any truth to the claim that Trump has dementia. A lot of academics have said there is evidence in his speech and behaviour, particularly when compared with, say, ten years ago.

 

My (limited) understanding of dementia is that it accelerates over time, so by 2026 he could clearly be incapacitated. Who will tell him?

[grobyfox1990]

20 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

... because the Biden administration of which she was part of made numerous moves legislative and politically to address carbon emissions.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_policy_of_the_Joe_Biden_administration

 

(Pardon the wiki link, but it's all there.)

 

So yes, I think it's a safe assumption that she would continue on that work. If that's not clear to you from her words and actions, fair enough.

 

On the other hand, the policy decisions of Trump in his first term regarding fossil fuel extraction and burning, combined with his pledges this time round, show rather clearly he intends a policy that will not address carbon emissions and vastly contribute to ongoing global average temperature increase. That increase will have global consequences, in money and in life.

 

If you think he "won't be that bad", then again, fair enough - I hope you're right, for the sake of a great many people and civilisation itself.

 

 

But what are the consequences. In metrics and targets alongside the globally approved baseline of measurement. How will this affect progress to 2030. How will the next NDC submission change. What will be the change in the national climate impact assessment. Which new climate risks and opportunities will become apparent in the trump term and what is their basis of likelihood.

Apologies to keep pushing this but you’re a cool guy and have a very strong position for Harris based mainly on climate. I can’t believe this position has come from empty rhetoric alone. Given the frequency of which you post on climate on this forum alone it’s a fair assumption on my part that you’re not a layman and know your onions. 

[CosbehFox]

I am only making one observation. The Harris campaign consistently wheeling out celebrities was not a good move (or SNL) and completely played into Trump’s rhetoric. 
 

An absolute shocker of a campaign ran by the Dems 

[urban.spaceman]

I'm just astonished. They are the stupidest country on earth.

[Torquay Gunner]

Just now, LanguedocFox said:

It will be interesting, over the next couple of years, to see if there’s any truth to the claim that Trump has dementia. A lot of academics have said there is evidence in his speech and behaviour, particularly when compared with, say, ten years ago.

 

My (limited) understanding of dementia is that it accelerates over time, so by 2026 he could clearly be incapacitated. Who will tell him?

I am hoping he keels over in the not too distant future from all that fast food he loves, imagine the state of his arteries.  Either that or he falls asleep on his tanning bed, think ‘ Final Destination’. 

[ealingfox]

Just now, CosbehFox said:

I am only making one observation. The Harris campaign consistently wheeling out celebrities was not a good move (or SNL) and completely played into Trump’s rhetoric. 
 

An absolute shocker of a campaign ran by the Dems 

 

What's the difference between that and Trump wheeling out Elon Musk, Kid Rock, Hulk Hogan etc? They're celebrities.

[Jon the Hat]

6 minutes ago, EastAnglianFox said:

Did he say Farage was a European!?

 

Nige won’t be liking that 

Do you not understand that the EU and Europe are not the same thing?  Farage is very much a European, his wife is German and he spent years living in Brussels.

[Otis]

Stocks up

USD up

[Jon the Hat]

3 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

I'm just astonished. They are the stupidest country on earth.

Most Americans feel worse off now than they did under Trump, and that is pretty damning on the Democrats.

[Jon the Hat]

1 minute ago, Otis said:

Stocks up

USD up

Definitley good for most American businesses.  

[Jon the Hat]

I think if I was Stormy Daniels I might move to Canada for a few years.

[Otis]

Expect some serious back tracking from Westminster over the next few weeks. 

[CosbehFox]

Just now, ealingfox said:

 

What's the difference between that and Trump wheeling out Elon Musk, Kid Rock, Hulk Hogan etc? They're celebrities.

The latter two in particular fit a narrative of ‘boys done good’ and ‘they were one of us’. Musk is a weird one. 
 

There is a wide held view with some of those Harris wheeled out that are not relatable and live in a millionaire bubble. Trump and his campaign could play on that - the same way we’ve saw over here with Brexit etc. 
 

Now those who supported Trump are exactly the same but it’s the perception. 

[Jon the Hat]

Just now, Otis said:

Expect some serious back tracking from Westminster over the next few weeks. 

Starmer and Co have been busy building bridges in the past month or so I think.

[Dr The Singh]

Economics and Immigration..........2 biggest problems for the western world.  Kamala did naff to suggest she could appease the yanks on those matters.  She did so bad that they were willing to let Trump in.

 

Our next election will be based on exactly this......

 

EU countries are going to the same way....

[Dr The Singh]

1 minute ago, Jon the Hat said:

I think if I was Stormy Daniels I might move to Canada for a few years.

I will happily move with her

[Jon the Hat]

Just now, Dr The Singh said:

Economics and Immigration..........2 biggest problems for the western world.  Kamala did naff to suggest she could appease the yanks on those matters.  She did so bad that they were willing to let Trump in.

 

Our next election will be based on exactly this......

 

EU countries are going to the same way....

Its important I think to realise that a lot of people couldn't care less about Trump being a ****, they like his bullish approach etc and his policies on those topics as well.  Much like no one cared about Boris being a shagger.

[RonnieTodger]

The worst thing about all of this is the material that it’ll give John Oliver and Nish Kumar.

 

Terrifying years ahead, I’m afraid.