The whole world smiles Posted 5 October 2024 Posted 5 October 2024 1 minute ago, Pliskin said: I think the main argument is we can be better, we’ve got some technically gifted players in this team, and with a better coaching team we could be playing better football and probably being doing slightly better. I just feel there’s a general acceptance that the goal is 17th…. When we can actually achieve a bit more in my opinion. Well put it this way the team and squad is a lot worse than the one we went down with last time. So you could make an arguement that we should be doing better you could also make an argument that we could be doing worse. Also looking at Burnley, Luton and Sheffield United last season you would say the gap between the championship is bigger than ever. I know it's not black and white but Russel Martin at Southampton is a more attacking front footed manager and his side is getting slaughtered. I am not arguing he is the 2nd coming of Christ or should be in charge for the next 3 years but I am arguing that cooper being in charge of Leicester is not some existential crisis that needs action now he is the clubs man he is going nowhere let's see where we are after 12 premier league games. 3
Popular Post gurru991 Posted 5 October 2024 Popular Post Posted 5 October 2024 I find it disturbing that It seems we have some "fans" who would prefer to see us lose so that Cooper will get fired !! Surely a true fan always wants the win !!! 8
deep blue Posted 5 October 2024 Posted 5 October 2024 1 hour ago, cropstonfox said: He got the extended contract,based on loyalty and us being a good club He has been ruined by injuries and cannot play regularly if at all at this level. Steve Cooper would love to have a player like Rickey pre injuries at his disposal. How do you know that this is the case. Do you have inside info? 1
cropstonfox Posted 5 October 2024 Posted 5 October 2024 3 minutes ago, Kp1984 said: So hes nice and honest so he stays . Being honest then doing the same shit again and again don’t make you a good manager. I’m happy we won but dam that 2nd half was horrible he is so negative at times it’s painful to watch. We was hanging on for most the 2nd half and we got lucky OK you are entitled to your opinion, His honesty is combined by hard work and a sound knowledge and experience gained at international Level and his time at Liverpool. He is always learning about the team he has inherited.im sure he will build this given the opportunity. This season is about stopping up and re setting. Better than Potter if he's the alternative .
CaliFOXnia Posted 5 October 2024 Posted 5 October 2024 Back from the US today to see the first game of the season live in the flesh. I have to say, the game management in the 2nd half was even worse than I expected it to be. I knew when we scored we’d completely shut up shop and try and take the 1-0, there was (aside from the Vardy chance) absolutely no intention from SC of us trying to get another to kill the game. Meanwhile we invited wave after wave of Bournemouth pressure onto us in the hope we would cling on. There is zero chance we can do that regularly, as we have shown. More teams than not will find enough quality to break us down and equalize, at that point the chances of us winning a game are, IMO, around the 0% mark. I agree largely with the sentiment of some on here that the team has enough technical ability to be a good side, certainly one that performs better than it has been. Skipp, Bounanotte, Mavididi and Faes were very good again today. Okoli is growing into what looks like a good physical partner for Wout too, and Hermansen is an excellent goalkeeper. We shouldn’t have to set up this way every single week, we should have enough to beat sides in this league. Under Cooper it doesn’t look like we’ll even have a go at anything other than snatching a 1-0 and running and I think that’s where the frustration lies. All in all, a good win today. It looks like we’ve been very unfortunate in that the looming points deduction has lumbered us with SC, and the only way we get rid is losses in a row.. Hopefully he can take the handbrake off and we have something to get behind! 🦊 4
cropstonfox Posted 5 October 2024 Posted 5 October 2024 3 minutes ago, deep blue said: How do you know that this is the case. Do you have inside info? Yes. I'm afraid it is the case or he would have a lot more minutes under his belt.
oz was my hero Posted 5 October 2024 Posted 5 October 2024 13 minutes ago, gurru991 said: I find it disturbing that It seems we have some "fans" who would prefer to see us lose so that Cooper will get fired !! Surely a true fan always wants the win !!! Stop making excuses for this *****. Just look at today for an example. This div is the only guy that can make subs to change a game and make us worse. Totally out of his depth. This is a short reply . If you want to go deeper we can.
Jimmy Posted 5 October 2024 Posted 5 October 2024 Just now, oz was my hero said: Stop making excuses for this *****. Just look at today for an example. This div is the only guy that can make subs to change a game and make us worse. Totally out of his depth. This is a short reply . If you want to go deeper we can. congratulations on completely proving the point made in the post you quoted
Larry_LCFC Posted 5 October 2024 Posted 5 October 2024 As much as I wasn't a fan of Enzo's style, you could still take some comfort in the fact he did atleast have a style, a vision, a project. Playing a very obvious Man City style with a Championship Leicester team was never going to be perfect but we all saw progress. I genuinely don't think Cooper has a style or a vision. He is the definition of winging it and his complete disregard for developing players like Fatawu proves that. 3
oz was my hero Posted 5 October 2024 Posted 5 October 2024 4 minutes ago, Jimmy said: congratulations on completely proving the point made in the post you quoted A true fan wants what's best for the club. This guy is taking us down . Would I be presumptuous on congratulating you being one of the happy clappers that's claps us being relegated again?
HighPeakFox Posted 5 October 2024 Posted 5 October 2024 1 minute ago, oz was my hero said: A true fan wants what's best for the club. This guy is taking us down . Would I be presumptuous on congratulating you being one of the happy clappers that's claps us being relegated again? Ffs 1
Pliskin Posted 5 October 2024 Posted 5 October 2024 30 minutes ago, The whole world smiles said: Well put it this way the team and squad is a lot worse than the one we went down with last time. So you could make an arguement that we should be doing better you could also make an argument that we could be doing worse. Also looking at Burnley, Luton and Sheffield United last season you would say the gap between the championship is bigger than ever. I know it's not black and white but Russel Martin at Southampton is a more attacking front footed manager and his side is getting slaughtered. I am not arguing he is the 2nd coming of Christ or should be in charge for the next 3 years but I am arguing that cooper being in charge of Leicester is not some existential crisis that needs action now he is the clubs man he is going nowhere let's see where we are after 12 premier league games. Is it? A lot worse? Worse than a team and manager that just couldn’t be arsed? That team got relegated rather pathetically. Technically yes, we had some better players in that team, but as a collective they were rubbish. This team we actually have some decent balance in it, and there seems to be a good team spirit and togetherness that we saw last season. The gulf, I don’t think is as big as people make out, all the teams you mentioned are utterly dreadful, Sheffield United were a complete mess, Luton made up the and Burnley weren’t great either. I didn’t think much to Bournemouth today, in the first half they left so much space for us to attack, yet, only one manager made changes to alter their fortunes, whilst we just sat and watch them work their way back into the game. We don’t need to play like Southampton, we just need to strike a better balance in the team, and play the players who can have an impact. Cooper has ripped all that was good about this team out, and replaced it with this absolutely horrible negative drivel, with zero creativity. Cooper will send us down, playing like this he will. What’s the point in persisting with this when we can be better? You can’t sustain something when there’s no clear plan.
MGLCFC Posted 5 October 2024 Posted 5 October 2024 It's the manner of the win for me. Second half we didn't have one shot. Yes, not one shot on target or not. First half was ok, mainly down to the skills of a loan player. But let's not kid ourselves, Bournemouth were the better of two poor sides. They created chances, hit the post and bar, missed a virtual open goal after 5 minutes and had a goal rule out (correctly). Yes, Vardy probably should have made it 2 - 0 before half time, but that second half was honking. Cooper just doesn't appear to have the nouse to change or affect a game in a positive manner. A poor 1 - 0 win, unfortunately gives him another month, at least, in the job. 3
Popular Post orangecity23 Posted 5 October 2024 Popular Post Posted 5 October 2024 The reason people are still banging the Cooper Out drum isn't because we want to be right - it's because all the problems that have been there since day 1 are still there, and were definitely present today as well. We are not some limited team of clogger Championship players getting results due to being in a well drilled system that gets the most of our players (for example - Chris Wilder's freshly promoted Sheff United team that finished well). This is a team with some really quite good premier league players in it, being hamstrung by tactics, formation and substitution decisions that make us look a worse team than we were last season. We still have issues with key players from last season being given the cold shoulder to disrupt the squad (add Winks to the list now, to go with all the others - Vestergaard, Ricardo, Mavididi, Fatawu). In game substitutions are still baffling. We still look statistically poorer than every opponent we've faced, and this win is built off the back of one great bit of skill by Buonanotte, coupled with some poor finishing by Bournemouth and some last ditch heroics at the back. The only credit I see Cooper really deserving today was the decision to not put Ayew on the wing, and deploy him centrally instead. Other than that, very, very little has changed, and the very obvious flaws which have persisted throughtout his entire reign here and the last 2 seasons at Forest remain glaringly obvious with no signs of learning or improvement. 7
oz was my hero Posted 5 October 2024 Posted 5 October 2024 5 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said: Ffs Well come on then. Tell me what you have seen that convinces you Cooper will keep us up?
Cropwellfox Posted 5 October 2024 Posted 5 October 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tuna said: Yep it was tweeted by josh holland That’s Faes dropped for Coady then 🤦♂️ Get in the bin Cooper, absolutely out of your depth. Genuinely thought he’d be a decent appointment but the absolute state of game management in the second half is beyond appalling. We’d be better sticking up a vote from the crowd on what to do every few minutes. Edited 5 October 2024 by Cropwellfox
HighPeakFox Posted 5 October 2024 Posted 5 October 2024 6 minutes ago, oz was my hero said: Well come on then. Tell me what you have seen that convinces you Cooper will keep us up? It's not that. It's that you seek to attack a fellow fan based on nothing but a guess. Avoid the ad hominems and I have no problem with what you say. 1
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 5 October 2024 Posted 5 October 2024 Silly crap manager, get him gone 1 1
splinterdream Posted 5 October 2024 Posted 5 October 2024 still find it truly baffling that he doesn't bring Ricardo on. What has Ricardo done? 2
oz was my hero Posted 5 October 2024 Posted 5 October 2024 Just now, HighPeakFox said: It's not that. It's that you seek to attack a fellow fan based on nothing but a guess. Avoid the ad hominems and I have no problem with what you say. Listen , I'm not attacking other fans . I'm frustrated. Bordering absolutely pissed off with what I'm seeing. We are so disjointed on the pitch, clueless off the pitch yet a lot of fans think cheering will make it alright. We all want the same at the end of the day. Sometimes tough choices need to be made
Paninistickers Posted 5 October 2024 Posted 5 October 2024 I was one of those broadly supportive of his appointment. I'm kinda staggered how quickly he's lost me, and presumably countless others. And seemingly, the players too Team selections,.subs, in game ineptitude, ward, BdcR, Soumare, Edward ...the cowardly persistence with playing Vards (presumably fearing a backlash of he drops him) 3
Ian Nacho Posted 5 October 2024 Posted 5 October 2024 In game management has been appalling. Even today the likes of Fatawu and Edouard were 15-20 minutes too late. 1
Pliskin Posted 5 October 2024 Posted 5 October 2024 6 minutes ago, splinterdream said: still find it truly baffling that he doesn't bring Ricardo on. What has Ricardo done? The manager is allergic to good decision making… 1
Strokes Posted 5 October 2024 Posted 5 October 2024 4 hours ago, MarriedaLeicesterGirl said: I had a massive cerebral haemorrhage last year, and I wouldn't even exchange the scar tissue in my brain with any part of his... That’s ****ing done me in 😂 😂 😂
splinterdream Posted 5 October 2024 Posted 5 October 2024 2 minutes ago, Ian Nacho said: In game management has been appalling. Even today the likes of Fatawu and Edouard were 15-20 minutes too late. Edouard was horrific, may as well play with another attacking midfielder is vardy is done 2
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