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[ozleicester]

37 minutes ago, Jattdogg said:

He is a 1 and done guy now because he can't run agai

unless 

[Jon the Hat]

11 hours ago, surrifox said:

Matt Gaetz has stood aside from Post of AG . Trump will have to find another druggy paedo for the role 

Much as I am sure he is not a nice person, If we are calling guys in their 30 shagging 17 year olds paedos you are going to need a bigger jail.

[Trav Le Bleu]

6 hours ago, ozleicester said:

We visited the white house on our trip to the USA in 2018.

One of the things werealised as we waited with some of the other visitors was the absolute awe that the americans were displaying for the house and the politicians. 

The ones we talked to had dressed in their sunday best, hair slicked down and collar and tie for the men/boys, perfect coif and below knwee length dresses/skirts for women/girls.

They spoke of politicians and the president particularly in the same way the ardent monarchists talk of royalty in the uk.

Given the way most aussies (and brits that i can tell) talk about politicians and the "esteem" in which they hold them... to hear these people worship was mindboggling.

 

It's like all those Hollywood films where the president is in jeopardy, Olympus Has Fallen, Air Force One, etc...

 

"The president's life is at stake! We must do everything we can!" During the film several characters will give their life to ensure the president survives.

 

Meanwhile in the rest of the world it would be...

"Meh, we can always elect another one. They weren't very good anyway."

[Daggers]

7 hours ago, ozleicester said:

We visited the white house on our trip to the USA in 2018.

One of the things werealised as we waited with some of the other visitors was the absolute awe that the americans were displaying for the house and the politicians. 

The ones we talked to had dressed in their sunday best, hair slicked down and collar and tie for the men/boys, perfect coif and below knwee length dresses/skirts for women/girls.

They spoke of politicians and the president particularly in the same way the ardent monarchists talk of royalty in the uk.

Given the way most aussies (and brits that i can tell) talk about politicians and the "esteem" in which they hold them... to hear these people worship was mindboggling.

 

Telling everyone you are in the Secret Service is supremely American.

[Mike Oxlong]

And those Trump orange tan face masks are on the same level of weird as those cvnts who took to wearing ear bandages 

[izzymuzzet]

11 hours ago, ozleicester said:

We visited the white house on our trip to the USA in 2018.

One of the things werealised as we waited with some of the other visitors was the absolute awe that the americans were displaying for the house and the politicians. 

The ones we talked to had dressed in their sunday best, hair slicked down and collar and tie for the men/boys, perfect coif and below knwee length dresses/skirts for women/girls.

They spoke of politicians and the president particularly in the same way the ardent monarchists talk of royalty in the uk.

Given the way most aussies (and brits that i can tell) talk about politicians and the "esteem" in which they hold them... to hear these people worship was mindboggling.

 

I've spent a fair bit of time in the US and concluded it is an incredibly deferential society. Your average American is absolutely in thrall to authority. This is evident in their attitudes to politicians as you cite here, but also the police and big business. I think this is why the USA is particularly prone to huxters and corporate scams, of which the election of Trump is the ultimate manifestation.

 

It's easy to look at counter cultural movements that have come out of New York and San Francisco etc, the Black Lives Matter movement, the January 6 riots etc and conclude that America is a land of people pushing back against authority. But I think across most of middle America they really love heirarchies. Politics in the UK is a mess and I think our cynicism of politicians sometimes goes too far, but I'd rather that than the USA model of blind faith.

Edited 22 November 2024 by izzymuzzet

[leicsmac]

29 minutes ago, Mike Oxlong said:

And those Trump orange tan face masks are on the same level of weird as those cvnts who took to wearing ear bandages 

Cult of personality.

[bovril]

14 hours ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

Have I got this right?

 

In the US, holders of important offices of state aren't elected, but, in rather monarchial style, appointed on the whim of the ultimate head of state?

 

Essentially the US president is an elected King? (was going to put /queen, but since it's apparent that it ain't going to happen any time soon, why bother.)

Is it fair to say the US president has greater executive power than George III did in 1776.

Edited 22 November 2024 by bovril

[The Fox Covert]

2 hours ago, izzymuzzet said:

I've spent a fair bit of time in the US and concluded it is an incredibly deferential society. Your average American is absolutely in thrall to authority. This is evident in their attitudes to politicians as you cite here, but also the police and big business. I think this is why the USA is particularly prone to huxters and corporate scams, of which the election of Trump is the ultimate manifestation.

 

It's easy to look at counter cultural movements that have come out of New York and San Francisco etc, the Black Lives Matter movement, the January 6 riots etc and conclude that America is a land of people pushing back against authority. But I think across most of middle America they really love heirarchies. Politics in the UK is a mess and I think our cynicism of politicians sometimes goes too far, but I'd rather that than the USA model of blind faith.

I would say that is true. After a previous term in office and another four years since, Trump has no tolerance to anyone calling him out. If the people in his cabal don't stop him he will go to any lengths to go after people who challenge his authority, which probably means billion dollar lawsuits, trumped up criminal charges, and every covert effort to damage their personal life and career. After the election I posted this and got quite a lot of unpleasant pushback from people who think Trump is the second coming. I spent about an hour blocking all the nastier ones who really are Nazis.

[WigstonWanderer]

With the recent spate of deaths from methanol poisoning in Laos and previous ones of course, shouldn’t it be possible to produce some sort of simple test kit to check drinks for methanol? I’m thinking something like a litmus style test.

 

Any chemists here want to make some money?

Edited 22 November 2024 by WigstonWanderer

[Jon the Hat]

2 hours ago, WigstonWanderer said:

With the recent spate of deaths from methanol poisoning in Laos and previous ones of course, shouldn’t it be possible to produce some sort of simple test kit to check drinks for methanol? I’m thinking something like a litmus style test.

 

Any chemists here want to make some money?

You are probably right, but having spent a few days in Vang Vieng a number of years ago, I am not sure anyone was heading back to their room for a test kit when the free shots came out.

[Jon the Hat]

2 hours ago, WigstonWanderer said:

With the recent spate of deaths from methanol poisoning in Laos and previous ones of course, shouldn’t it be possible to produce some sort of simple test kit to check drinks for methanol? I’m thinking something like a litmus style test.

 

Any chemists here want to make some money?

You are probably right, but having spent a few days in Vang Vieng a number of years ago, I am not sure anyone was heading back to their room for a test kit when the free shots came out.

[StanSP]

BBC News (world version) is mad

 

Shows coverage following the Israel strikes on Beirut. 

 

Cuts to another scene, fronted by 'they return to a degree of normality' as it shows an army truck in the middle of the road blocking vehicle access and people walking around. What's the normality there? 

[Daggers]

On 22/11/2024 at 13:37, The Fox Covert said:

I would say that is true. After a previous term in office and another four years since, Trump has no tolerance to anyone calling him out. If the people in his cabal don't stop him he will go to any lengths to go after people who challenge his authority, which probably means billion dollar lawsuits, trumped up criminal charges, and every covert effort to damage their personal life and career. After the election I posted this and got quite a lot of unpleasant pushback from people who think Trump is the second coming. I spent about an hour blocking all the nastier ones who really are Nazis.

That is ridiculous.

 

Thelma would wear two socks.

[Wymsey]

 

 

[Dunge]

34 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

 

 

Don’t worry. Trump’s riding in on a white horse.

Or a pale horse; something like that.

[Lionator]

I don’t think there are many genuine situations that could lead to the overthrow of government in this country, BUT sending British troops to an Ukraine that is still at war may just be one. 

[Sampson]

3 minutes ago, Lionator said:

I don’t think there are many genuine situations that could lead to the overthrow of government in this country, BUT sending British troops to an Ukraine that is still at war may just be one. 

I highly doubt it. The UK public is pretty staunchly behind Ukraine. It’s not like Iraq where a good proportion of the country was against it (and which still saw the government re elected anyway). 

[leicsmac]

1 hour ago, Dunge said:

Don’t worry. Trump’s riding in on a white horse.

Or a pale horse; something like that.

On topic:

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gvd7kxxj5o

 

Definitely a pale horse.

[leicsmac]

10 minutes ago, Lionator said:

I don’t think there are many genuine situations that could lead to the overthrow of government in this country, BUT sending British troops to an Ukraine that is still at war may just be one. 

 

5 minutes ago, Sampson said:

I highly doubt it. The UK public is pretty staunchly behind Ukraine. It’s not like Iraq where a good proportion of the country was against it (and which still saw the government re elected anyway). 

Considering what any NATO member - including the UK - and Russian forces meeting directly on the field of battle would mean, I would hope that enough of the UK public would do anything to ensure that wouldn't happen.

[Lionator]

25 minutes ago, Sampson said:

I highly doubt it. The UK public is pretty staunchly behind Ukraine. It’s not like Iraq where a good proportion of the country was against it (and which still saw the government re elected anyway). 

The British public supports Ukraine, however they very much would not support Britain directly fighting Russia unless absolutely necessary given the potential consequences that @leicsmac points out. 

[Sampson]

5 minutes ago, Lionator said:

The British public supports Ukraine, however they very much would not support Britain directly fighting Russia unless absolutely necessary given the potential consequences that @leicsmac points out. 

I suppose that’s true, but people said the same thing about using UK weaponary at the start of the war. Plenty of Putin’s red lines have already been crossed and bluffs have been called, I’m not convinced we’d see our government overthrown if it happened. I suppose it depends on how much the west feel Putin is bluffing really.

[leicsmac]

1 minute ago, Sampson said:

I suppose that’s true, but people said the same thing about using UK weaponary at the start of the war. Plenty of Putin’s red lines have already been crossed and bluffs have been called, I’m not convinced we’d see our government overthrown if it happened. I suppose it depends on how much the west feel Putin is bluffing really.

For me there's a marked difference between Ukraine using UK weapons and UK (or any other Nato forces) and Russian forces actually engaging each other directly.

 

That would be a red line that both sides stuck to in the Cold War because they knew what it meant (which is why it never happened), and I think it's still true today. But here's hoping we never have to find out.

[The Horse's Mouth]

Does feel like every time I wake up it’s what’s Starmer done now 

[ealingfox]

16 minutes ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

Does feel like every time I wake up it’s what’s Starmer done now 

 

Possibly the news you're consuming? I've noticed how hysterical sections of the media have been since early July.