The Fox Covert Posted 6 January Posted 6 January Anyone else had their Facebook feed muddied by this? They are apparently stickers which the fascist knuckledraggers who follow Yaxley-Lennon were trying to hand out at Villa on Saturday. I have had this pop up four times now from different pages. They are probably also trying it on other social media platforms like Instagram and X. I expect the people behind this have run out individual versions for every major club. Fascists have been trying to cosy up to football supporters since the days of the National Front in the 1970s and this is only their latest attempt to stir things up. I expect the club are aware and it would be interesting to know what they are doing about it.
Dr The Singh Posted 6 January Posted 6 January (edited) 2 hours ago, Tommy G said: Careful, you'll get banned from this topic. You are only allowed to support labour here. Feck them pr@cks, I'm a Singh, we live by the truth Edited 6 January by Dr The Singh 1 1
BenTheFox Posted 6 January Posted 6 January 19 minutes ago, bovril said: It gets used in similarly reductive ways and like woke can mean almost anything the person using it wants it to mean. I remember it being used a lot in 2016 by people claiming that the EU and Hilary Clinton were 'neoliberal' and therefore bad. Saying "the West has been ruined by neoliberalism" is as silly as saying it's been ruined by woke, not least because 'the West' is full of countries whose social and economic policies have been totally different recently. Having seen many of your posts in the past, we broadly agree on many issues. You have rightly pointed out that economic differ between western nations and as such I understand that the statement is obviously hyperbolic, but if you consider the 2008 global financial crash and what caused it, is the statement actually that far out? 1
bovril Posted 6 January Posted 6 January (edited) 21 minutes ago, BenTheFox said: Having seen many of your posts in the past, we broadly agree on many issues. You have rightly pointed out that economic differ between western nations and as such I understand that the statement is obviously hyperbolic, but if you consider the 2008 global financial crash and what caused it, is the statement actually that far out? Yes, I think it is. The GFC had a huge economic impact of course, especially in the UK that deindustrialized more than any Western European nation (only parts of Poland and E Germany deindustrialized more I think). But the austerity we had in response to that was a political choice and not something that was uniformly followed across the Western world or necessarily baked in to our political model. It was something a lot of voters wanted - "there's no magic money tree" after all. The US arguably stimulated their economy more after 2008 than Europe did, and yet people would probably say the US is more neoliberal than the EU (and yet maybe not?). Then about a decade later we in Britain decided literally to impose trade and immigration sanctions on ourselves - hardly neoliberal. I am not an economic historian at all, it mostly bores me silly, but when I think of neoliberal economic policies I think of the 80s, particularly Raegan, and the 90s. And yet the US didn't see an upsurge in the far right then. That's happened under arguably the least neoliberal president of recent times. Similarly, there was not a great far right movement in Western Europe in that period either, although it was always there, in the UK probably as much as it is now. The far right has gained popularity in Europe in the last decade, mostly because of a backlash to immigration, exacerbated by social media. So yes I think it's a stretch to say neoliberalism has broken the West. US, UK, Germany, France, the Nordics, Japan, Australia - all with quite different recent trajectories and all with quite different politics. I spend a lot of time in Europe and I don't think it's quite as broken as some people in the Anglosphere like to tell themselves. Edited 6 January by bovril 1
splinterdream Posted 6 January Posted 6 January 50 minutes ago, The Fox Covert said: Anyone else had their Facebook feed muddied by this? They are apparently stickers which the fascist knuckledraggers who follow Yaxley-Lennon were trying to hand out at Villa on Saturday. I have had this pop up four times now from different pages. They are probably also trying it on other social media platforms like Instagram and X. I expect the people behind this have run out individual versions for every major club. Fascists have been trying to cosy up to football supporters since the days of the National Front in the 1970s and this is only their latest attempt to stir things up. I expect the club are aware and it would be interesting to know what they are doing about it. I'm not going to get involved other than to say i disagree with everything you've said there and I'm not sure you understand what fascism is. 1 1 1 2
The Horse's Mouth Posted 6 January Posted 6 January I don’t think this country will see any change until the two establishment parties are toppled.
Dunge Posted 6 January Posted 6 January 1 hour ago, The Fox Covert said: Anyone else had their Facebook feed muddied by this? They are apparently stickers which the fascist knuckledraggers who follow Yaxley-Lennon were trying to hand out at Villa on Saturday. I have had this pop up four times now from different pages. They are probably also trying it on other social media platforms like Instagram and X. I expect the people behind this have run out individual versions for every major club. Fascists have been trying to cosy up to football supporters since the days of the National Front in the 1970s and this is only their latest attempt to stir things up. I expect the club are aware and it would be interesting to know what they are doing about it. Incidentally, has anyone owned up to this? ie. Stated on social media “This was me and/or my group”? Obviously someone’s done it; I just wondered whether it had been claimed, if so by whom, and if not then does that mean they’re hiding? 1
Popular Post The Horse's Mouth Posted 6 January Popular Post Posted 6 January 5 minutes ago, leicsmac said: Well, that's entirely stable. So that would mean Charles would be the head of state in the United States of North America? We are so back lads 8
grobyfox1990 Posted 6 January Posted 6 January 17 minutes ago, leicsmac said: Well, that's entirely stable. We’re living off the spoils of stolen land and empire building in this country. Can’t blame Orangeman for trying to build his own
leicsmac Posted 6 January Posted 6 January 3 minutes ago, grobyfox1990 said: We’re living off the spoils of stolen land and empire building in this country. Can’t blame Orangeman for trying to build his own Not sure, when the consequences of that mindset become fully apparent, those left behind screaming "who killed the world?" while looking for those responsible for it will buy that line in magnanimity, tbh.
leicsmac Posted 6 January Posted 6 January https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/c3rqgwxwl2yo Oh, and look, seems like a President can be confirmed ceremonially without a riot/insurrection attempt to install the other candidate as victor. Who knew? 1 1
grobyfox1990 Posted 6 January Posted 6 January 1 hour ago, leicsmac said: Not sure, when the consequences of that mindset become fully apparent, those left behind screaming "who killed the world?" while looking for those responsible for it will buy that line in magnanimity, tbh. Dunno, the uk is still doing pretty damn well out of it tbf and not facing up to any of the consequences
Daggers Posted 7 January Author Posted 7 January 10 hours ago, Dr The Singh said: Feck them pr@cks, I'm a Singh, we live by excessive quantities of alcohol and the kind of smutty innuendo my wife would slap me seven times till Sunday if she discovered I was doing it FTFY 2
leicsmac Posted 7 January Posted 7 January The descent down the alt-right rabbithole is getting rather excessive now: It would be darkly hilarious if this man didn't have the money and therefore influence to back political leaders who would then implement these perverted idea of "values" on everyone else.
Jon the Hat Posted 7 January Posted 7 January 10 hours ago, grobyfox1990 said: We’re living off the spoils of stolen land and empire building in this country. Can’t blame Orangeman for trying to build his own What a weird take. When did we last takeover a country? Was it a democracy? 1
leicsmac Posted 7 January Posted 7 January 8 hours ago, grobyfox1990 said: Dunno, the uk is still doing pretty damn well out of it tbf and not facing up to any of the consequences For now. That won't last. 1
Nalis Posted 7 January Posted 7 January 8 hours ago, grobyfox1990 said: Dunno, the uk is still doing pretty damn well out of it tbf and not facing up to any of the consequences How far back and on what scale do you go though? This always comes up for the UK but there must be thousands of examples in the world of regions of land that have exploited others, even within the same modern day country, whereby some try to argue they are still benefiting generations later.
grobyfox1990 Posted 7 January Posted 7 January 29 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said: What a weird take. When did we last takeover a country? Was it a democracy? You think we get our global influence and soft power from potatoes, steel and pictures of the queen, bro?
grobyfox1990 Posted 7 January Posted 7 January 26 minutes ago, Nalis said: How far back and on what scale do you go though? This always comes up for the UK but there must be thousands of examples in the world of regions of land that have exploited others, even within the same modern day country, whereby some try to argue they are still benefiting generations later. This country was built from looting others and using their people as slaves to build our own net worth. Like any UNHW family, it takes a good few generations until the entitled and lazy kid comes along and squanders all of that wealth. For that kid, read baby boomer generation. 2
Jon the Hat Posted 7 January Posted 7 January 13 minutes ago, grobyfox1990 said: You think we get our global influence and soft power from potatoes, steel and pictures of the queen, bro? No I just have no idea why you think the history of the British empire has any relevance whatsoever on Trump's apparent eyes for Canada.
Tommy G Posted 7 January Posted 7 January 17 hours ago, Zear0 said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy849w4ygwo Punishment fitting the crime..? What did Huw Edwards get again? Oh...
Wymsey Posted 7 January Posted 7 January 4 minutes ago, Tommy G said: What did Huw Edwards get again? Oh... On mental health grounds, though..
bovril Posted 7 January Posted 7 January 4 hours ago, grobyfox1990 said: This country was built from looting others and using their people as slaves to build our own net worth. Well, no.
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