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South Shire Fox

South Shire Fox

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29 minutes ago, nnfox said:

It's fairly standard.  If everyone who was convicted of indecent images of children offences were sent to prison, you'd need to double the number of prisons.  

 

Suspended sentences are typical in these cases.  Whether that's right or wrong, is probably another discussion, but it is the way it is.

No, there is absolutley no discussion needed whatsoever. Nonces belong in prison away from the general public, and thats them being let off lightly 

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Greg2607

Greg2607

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1 hour ago, Tommy G said:

Agree with some of those points but I can't unsee millionaire Keir Starmer accepting donations for clothes and specs, alongside his wife, where there are millions of people in this country who can't afford the basics - or eat or heat their homes? He can afford all of the above and should of said thanks, but no thanks. If the working man with a wife and 2 kids can afford a suit to go to work, he can.

agreed. it's a poor look. (pardon the pun) 

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David Hankey

David Hankey

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1 hour ago, Tommy G said:

Agree with some of those points but I can't unsee millionaire Keir Starmer accepting donations for clothes and specs, alongside his wife, where there are millions of people in this country who can't afford the basics - or eat or heat their homes? He can afford all of the above and should of said thanks, but no thanks. If the working man with a wife and 2 kids can afford a suit to go to work, he can.

You're having a laugh!! The majority of politicians across the political divide are all on the make.

 

You've only to go back to MPs 'Allowances & Expenses' scandal to see what they were up to and my guess is very little has changed.

 

The worse thing is Labour have always stated they are on the side of the "working" man/woman, what a joke!!

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Foxdiamond

Foxdiamond

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There is speculation concerning older person's bus pass. Often the press states that passes are available to those over 60. This is true for those living in London and I believe the devolved governments but is not true in the rest of England. The pass is only then issued to people of retirement age currently 66. 

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reporterpenguin

reporterpenguin

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1 hour ago, ClaphamFox said:

Thoughts and prayers with Owen Jones today...

 

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I didn’t have defending Owen Jones on my to do list today, but hey-ho. 
 

In fairness to him, the allegations made by the Sun were nothing to do with this case whatsoever. What he’s been sentenced for today came about because the police found he’d been sent images by a nonce they were investigating in a separate case. 
 

Were the initial allegations indicative of some underlying, errr, tendencies? It sure looks like it now. But Jones is right that what was raised by the Sun was found not to be criminal and the way that panned out wasn’t great. It just later turned out that there was criminal behaviour similar to this, but wasn’t uncovered completely independently. 
 

And having defended him, to balance it out and make myself feel better, I’d also like to add that Owen Jones is pr!ck. 

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Super_horns

Super_horns

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3 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

He was never going down, first offence and the fact the distributor of the pics (a more serious offence and had previous) only got a.suspended

 

Tbh, I do think that it's also fair to factor in the man is ruined. Totally ruined. That's no defence of him,.but it is probably fair to consider when sentencing. 

Age as well play a part ?

 

He had admitted being wrong and had the reputation trashed .

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Paninistickers

Paninistickers

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27 minutes ago, Super_horns said:

Age as well play a part ?

 

He had admitted being wrong and had the reputation trashed .

The case aside, I think the concept of being ruined is quite a fascinating thought to recover or rehabilitate from (for me at least,. probs not quite as fascinating for Huw Edwards and Gary glitter) 

 

Like we all play the game of 'what would you do if you won the lottery? - buy a place in the sun etc etc' ....but this being the opposite; how does someone react to complete and total reputational ruin? 

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Super_horns

Super_horns

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28 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

The case aside, I think the concept of being ruined is quite a fascinating thought to recover or rehabilitate from (for me at least,. probs not quite as fascinating for Huw Edwards and Gary glitter) 

 

Like we all play the game of 'what would you do if you won the lottery? - buy a place in the sun etc etc' ....but this being the opposite; how does someone react to complete and total reputational ruin? 

Some probably manage to if they are younger but not for serious offences like this .

Paninistickers

Paninistickers

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2 minutes ago, Super_horns said:

Some probably manage to if they are younger but not for serious offences like this .

Yeah. At a quick think the options are to clear off to say, rural Sweden/Norway who seem to have a relaxed attitude to crime and might be more tolerant for reintegration into society. 

 

Or, spend a year at home in your flat learning Spanish and clear off to remote Paraguay and live a simple farm life and hope nobody gives a shit. 

 

Once upon a time, didn't desperate men run off to the french foreign legion...join up,. no questions.asked? 

 

No easy options to reinvent yourself with that level of fame. 

Izzy

Izzy

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Sad to hear that Gary Shaw has died. Remember watching him as a youth being a key part of that Villa 81/82 European Cup winning team.

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Foxdiamond

Foxdiamond

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1 hour ago, Izzy said:

Sad to hear that Gary Shaw has died. Remember watching him as a youth being a key part of that Villa 81/82 European Cup winning team.

Yes. Very sad. Was a very good player

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westernpark

westernpark

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4 minutes ago, David Hankey said:

Good, I hope they'll be very happy. In part paid for by the pensioners!!

It’s a good job pensioners are not more likely to need extra medical provision.

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Jon the Hat

Jon the Hat

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15 hours ago, ClaphamFox said:

Thoughts and prayers with Owen Jones today...

 

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While Owen is a total cock, the Sun had zero knowledge of any criminal activity when they published.  They got lucky.

jgtuk

jgtuk

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40 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

https://www.newarab.com/news/israeli-settlers-attack-raid-west-bank-primary-school

 

Israeli settlers, apparently escorted by the IDF attack a Palestinian primary school. The ****, attacking a primary school. Not very much information the MSN but plenty of videos circulating - one of them chasing a female teacher with bats. 
 

This is a state backed operation. The settlers are protected by the IDF and rarely charged with any crime.

I have family working in Palestine for aid and medical agencies and they're witnessing these things on a daily basis.

I'm not posting further on this, especially on these threads for obvious reasons.

Trav Le Bleu

Trav Le Bleu

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52 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

https://www.newarab.com/news/israeli-settlers-attack-raid-west-bank-primary-school

 

Israeli settlers, apparently escorted by the IDF attack a Palestinian primary school. The ****, attacking a primary school. Not very much information the MSN but plenty of videos circulating - one of them chasing a female teacher with bats. 
 

Surely hawks or eagles would be more effective?

bovril

bovril

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2 hours ago, Sampson said:

Are we allowed to even mention the B-word given the 2 major parties seem to be pretending it doesn’t exist? :whistle:
 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd988p00z1no

 

Brexit deal impact in UK is worsening, warn economists

It's been said a million times before but considering that Brexit was supposed to punish the 'elites', it just punishes working people. Almost as much as austerity which Labour also tacitly supports. 

Dahnsouff

Dahnsouff

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25 minutes ago, bovril said:

It's been said a million times before but considering that Brexit was supposed to punish the 'elites', it just punishes working people. Almost as much as austerity which Labour also tacitly supports. 

I am sorry, but who thought Brexit was supposed to punish the elites?  :dunno:

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