Premier League 2024/25

[worthosoriginals]

32 minutes ago, Mon.is.a.god said:

From a quick glance, Saintsweb’s just as suicidal as FoxesTalk.

Are a few of them spouting the 'give him more time bollox'?

[funkyrobot]

16 minutes ago, cropstonfox said:

 

Yes good points .

The Players are not good enough.

Cooper is doing his best with a terrible hand.....Damage limitation.

Can't see any of the Forums- wish list- of Managers coming here, for a hiding to nothing and relegation.

Cooper is  not doing his best with a terrible hand. He’s not playing his best 11, he’s playing players out of position, his tactics are pragmatic to the point that we can’t create chances and he’s created a lack of belief in the players in their own ability. He’s currently doing a bad job with a distinctly average hand. 

[Super_horns]

12 minutes ago, worthosoriginals said:

Are a few of them spouting the 'give him more time bollox'?

Not sure they really took to him last season tbh .

[cropstonfox]

2 minutes ago, funkyrobot said:

Cooper is  not doing his best with a terrible hand. He’s not playing his best 11, he’s playing players out of position, his tactics are pragmatic to the point that we can’t create chances and he’s created a lack of belief in the players in their own ability. He’s currently doing a bad job with a distinctly average hand. 

Thanks for your take on this.

It's all about opinions.The only way we will find out is if he goes.Then the new Manager will be judged on his results with

the same squad.

[RumbleFox]

Just now, cropstonfox said:

Thanks for your take on this.

It's all about opinions.The only way we will find out is if he goes.Then the new Manager will be judged on his results with

the same squad.

I genuinely would give Cooper more time as I just can’t stand the sacking culture in football but he’s certainly not doing the best he could. Baffling decisions and poor in game management. 

[The Doctor]

starting with no attackers so you can put them all on to chase the game, who gave Russell Cooper's tactics book?

[when_you're_smiling]

30 minutes ago, Denzel the fox said:

Bottom 7 have just 2 wins between them, accepting some have played each other but that’s 42 attempts to win a match! 

About the same as last season then. The gap between the Prem and Champ seems much bigger than when we last came up. 

[don_danbury]

9 minutes ago, when_you're_smiling said:

About the same as last season then. The gap between the Prem and Champ seems much bigger than when we last came up. 

think its more down to having shite managers, or inexperienced managers at this level rather than the gap widening. when we went up the promoted sides had: redknapp, pearson and dyche.

[LcFc_Smiv]

Bournemouths style of play takes a clear toll on them, they have a lot of tired looking players out there.

[The Doctor]

1 minute ago, don_danbury said:

think its more down to having shite managers, or inexperienced managers at this level rather than the gap widening. when we went up the promoted sides had: redknapp, pearson and dyche.

and of those only Redknapp had more than a couple of games as caretaker as far as experience at this level

[don_danbury]

Just now, The Doctor said:

and of those only Redknapp had more than a couple of games as caretaker as far as experience at this level

yeah. but dyche and pearson went on to be good managers at this level, especially dyche. can't see russell martin or steve cooper managing in the prem for as long as dyche has

[The Doctor]

Just now, don_danbury said:

yeah. but dyche and pearson went on to be good managers at this level, especially dyche. can't see russell martin or steve cooper managing in the prem for as long as dyche has

they'd fall under the shit managers but the idea that a manager needs experience at this level is a fallacy and is the exact mindset that lead us to Steve ****ing Cooper rather than looking further abroad than Calais

[funkyrobot]

10 minutes ago, cropstonfox said:

Thanks for your take on this.

It's all about opinions.The only way we will find out is if he goes.Then the new Manager will be judged on his results with

the same squad.

Not all opinion. Cooper isn’t playing his best 11. That’s a fact. His best team would include both Mavididi and Fatawu and would always utilise a creative central midfielder.  His selections are based on pragmatism. That pragmatism has helped Cooper to a remarkable 19 consecutive premier league games WITHOUT a win. 
 

If they recruit a better manager than Cooper then they will get better results with the same squad , Enzo is a better manager than Cooper. He would’ve got more points with the same squad. They need to recruit a manager with at least that level of ability, irrespective of the style of play and then results will improve. 

[funkyrobot]

26 minutes ago, RumbleFox said:

I genuinely would give Cooper more time as I just can’t stand the sacking culture in football but he’s certainly not doing the best he could. Baffling decisions and poor in game management. 

Where’s the logic in keeping a manager in a job he’s clearly not able to do purely to make a stand against the sacking culture though? His decision making and in game management isn’t suddenly going to have a complete reversal. This is what we will get with Cooper, he’s displaying exactly the same traits that he did at Forest. 

[RumbleFox]

15 minutes ago, funkyrobot said:

Where’s the logic in keeping a manager in a job he’s clearly not able to do purely to make a stand against the sacking culture though? His decision making and in game management isn’t suddenly going to have a complete reversal. This is what we will get with Cooper, he’s displaying exactly the same traits that he did at Forest. 

There probably isn’t any logic. It’s an emotional decision based in the fact that he seems a nice enough guy. But you’re right, logically the signs point to a replacement being the best option. 

Edited 30 September 2024 by RumbleFox

[Daggers]

 

[funkyrobot]

2 minutes ago, RumbleFox said:

There probably isn’t any logic. It’s an emotional decision based in the fact that he seems a nice enough guy. But you’re right, logically the signs point to a replacement being the best option. 

By all accounts Ian Holloway is one of the nicest guys you could meet tbf. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[RumbleFox]

1 minute ago, funkyrobot said:

By all accounts Ian Holloway is one of the nicest guys you could meet tbf. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Annoying as fvck though.  

[gw_leics772]

2 hours ago, Mon.is.a.god said:

From a quick glance, Saintsweb’s just as suicidal as FoxesTalk.

 

1 hour ago, worthosoriginals said:

Are a few of them spouting the 'give him more time bollox'?

I NEEDED to know the answer to this.

 

They seem a sane bunch

 

And for th0se who point out we have 3 times as many points as them,that would be 19 points for the season at this rate, which when compared to Southampton 6.33, makes no ****ing difference cos both are ****ing shocking!

 

[Dan]

Martin is truly awful. Potential worst of all time levels.

[foxfanazer]

7 hours ago, gw_leics772 said:

 

I NEEDED to know the answer to this.

 

They seem a sane bunch

 

And for th0se who point out we have 3 times as many points as them,that would be 19 points for the season at this rate, which when compared to Southampton 6.33, makes no ****ing difference cos both are ****ing shocking!

 

Bloody hell. Even Southampton fans have bigger ambitions than us 

[dr.o.ball]

11 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Didn't they pay about £40m for Evanilson?

Oh my mistake 😅  thought 15 was cheap

[StanSP]

Troy Deeney thinks Justin's first goal was a 'decent header'. It took a deflection on its way in

 

 

Has included him in his team of the week as there wasn't much to do defensively, apparently, just because the goals came down our left. 

[FoxesWalk]

10 hours ago, gw_leics772 said:

 

I NEEDED to know the answer to this.

 

They seem a sane bunch

 

And for th0se who point out we have 3 times as many points as them,that would be 19 points for the season at this rate, which when compared to Southampton 6.33, makes no ****ing difference cos both are ****ing shocking!

 

There was a similar clamour for him to go from their fans around this time last season, they changed their minds pretty sharpish once results picked up. That won’t happen this time though, imo. 

[Lambert09]