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13 hours ago, BKLFox said:

Only 1 touch in the man c half since going behind 😂 

So what? At least they gave it a go against a team that has spent £££££££. And their travelling and money paying fans have something to be proud of and can acknowledge the effort. 

 

I know our fans like the clap off the players regardless but I'm more of the school of people playing and fighting for the shirt. I believe that football is about scoring goals and you can only do that by attacking and having a go. 

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Posted (edited)
13 hours ago, foxfanazer said:

1 winnable game? :blink:

  13 hours ago,  Fear Of The Fox said:

Arsenal have just one winnable game left. They might finish 4th.

2nd, 4th, what difference does it make. If you don’t win it, who remembers? 

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Personally think the clubs that came up need to look at themselves, poor recruitment and an instance on playing naive, open and expansive football.

 

 

 

 

 

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27 minutes ago, Torquay Gunner said:

2nd, 4th, what difference does it make. If you don’t win it, who remembers? 

It doesn't make any difference practically but finishing 4th in a 2 horse race will be hilarious. 

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5 minutes ago, Fear Of The Fox said:

It doesn't make any difference practically but finishing 4th in a 2 horse race will be hilarious. 

I would argue it’s not been an 2 horse race since February.🤣

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Posted
13 hours ago, davieG said:

 

 

  1. An ever-growing gap? The stats on Premier League survivalpublished at 14:05

    14:05

    Alex Fletcher
    BBC Sport journalist

    Image source,Getty Images

    With just four games to go in the Premier League this season relegation has been decided.

    For the second season in a row, all three promoted clubs have been sent straight back down, and 14 points separates those in the relegation zone and 17th placed West Ham.

    Southampton, Leicester City and Ipswich Town have just 10 wins between them this season, and there is still a chance that the Saints finish the campaign as the joint-worst Premier League team of all time.

    But where did it all go wrong?

    A struggle to survive

    Opta stats on promoted trios

    According to Opta, this is the worst combined points total of any group of promoted sides at this stage of the season in Premier League history

    The three teams have only managed to get 50 points between them - after just 34 games - and are 14 points behind the previous record which was set last year by Sheffield United, Burnley and Luton Town.

    While Leicester and Southampton have seen changes in the dugout this season, Ipswich have stuck with Kieran McKenna, but this has not changed their fortunes.

    Between them, they have picked up just 21 points at home, with Southampton and Ipswich winning just once in-front of their own fans.

    Promoted sides face 'more of a challenge'

    Opta stats on relegated sides

    And things look set to get even more difficult for those coming up from the Championship.

    According to Opta, five of the lowest eight Premier League points totals for promoted sides after 34 games have come in the last eight years. Southampton are currently on the joint-lowest points total ever at this stage of the season, alongside Derby County.

    Speaking before his sides relegation, Ipswich boss McKenna said the gap between the Premier League and the Championship "is getting bigger" and that "it's been getting more of a challenge for clubs to be able to bridge that".

I do think this will be causing some concern for the PL. On the one hand they've got the closed shop they wanted, but it has devalued the "product" as it were. Should start to introduce some simple things to rectify it, maybe allowing newly promoted clubs more freedom on loans or something would be a sensible start.

Posted
4 hours ago, LCFCJohn said:

Both points can be unrelated but true. It is true that the rules have been implemented to protect the status of the rich clubs and the amount of circumventing of the rules that the likes of Chelsea particularly but the likes of Forest, Villa and Everton (as well as Chelsea here too) do with the ‘player swaps’ is a joke. The biggest single issue with these rule imo is that it has the adverse effect by forcing clubs to sell the players that would actually make them sustainable, I.e youth prospects.

 

But we would not have ended up in this position solely due to these rule. They are designed to prevent us challenging at the top but not to get relegated and have a future at best as a yoyo club as we are now. That is solely the work of Top, Rudkin and the rest of them. If they were actually taking it seriously, we’d not be adding further deadwood each transfer window and would be moving back to bring in those with value, resale and wages.

 

Other clubs, Brighton, Brentford, Bournemouth etc are managing to operate within the constraints as they are well run clubs with intelligent people who understand football and business making the decisions.

A really good reponse to a question that I asked. No nastiness, name calling or insults. A good, solid well constructed point!

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Our once upon a time state of the art scouting and recruiting has gone straight into the abyss. Selling assets without proper replacements, no ambition to make the team a powerhouse or somewhat attractive to decent players. Even if we didn't have the two near misses of CL football I very much doubt we would have avoided what happened now. 

Incompetent people in crucial roles and positions have caused this downfall and as it looks nobody is taking responsibility. 

And yes I know the city itself isn't attractive but us fans didn't help either. We always criticise and make fun of the atmosphere in grounds like Etihad but in fact we aren't any better. 

Rant over, just wanted to post my feelings after watching Tielemans performance today. 

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Posted
32 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Delighted to be getting away from VAR in the Championship. Spent 10 minutes trying to disallow that goal.

I'm surprised they kept it as a goal and didn't actually disallow it. 

Posted

Not really sure why they are debating this second goal, surely it's a penalty if they're not giving the goal?

Posted
3 minutes ago, foxile5 said:

Just a few sensible decisions from the board I'd imagine.

Them and Brentford, even Palace are the aspirations we should have. Good teams building, succession plans, identity, young players, good scouting, no silly contracts and FFP issues.

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Posted

So for all the media rimming of Arsenal and Arteta, despite spending half a billion quid, after defeat to Bournemouth Arsenal cannot achieve the 81 points tally we got in 2016.

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Posted

Not sure if this seasons Premier League prize money has been announced yet. However, it was £2.8m per league place in season 23/24. 

 

The game against Ipswich will be quite lucrative. Perhaps even enough to cover the coaches compensation.

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Bournemouth stuffed Forest and Newcastle then went missing for a month

 

They’d be bang in the Champions League hunt if they’d just held it together

Posted
4 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

The game against Ipswich will be quite lucrative. Perhaps even enough to cover the coaches compensation.

We shouldn't need a coach, we're at home!

 

:whistle:

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