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Posted
17 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

 

Does he though? He doesn't score goals, he doesn't create goals, attacks break down when he has the ball, we can never set up an effective press with him in the side (because he doesn't think about what he's doing), he's weak, doesn't win headers and is no where near as fast as people claim him to be.

 

 

Accepting the bare minimum because the alternative is worse is why we're in this mess.

 

We know for a fact that we're not getting anything other than a bit of mindless pressing with Daka. We ought to at least have given someone like Otchere or Hutchinson a go by now but the problem is that it's not fair to throw a young lad in at the deep end.

 

Every side plays to the strengths of their striker yet that's impossible for us because our strikers are dog shit with no strengths whatsoever outside of Daka's willingness to run around like a headless chicken. The problem with that is that you can't play Daka with wingers like Mavididi and Fatawu because they are unwilling to join in with a press.

0.38 G+A per 90 this season - which is ok for this team, Daka has played fewer minutes than he ought to given his output.

 

If we’d started him over Ayew from the outset we’d have more points, simple as that.

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Posted
24 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

 

Does he though? He doesn't score goals, he doesn't create goals, attacks break down when he has the ball, we can never set up an effective press with him in the side (because he doesn't think about what he's doing), he's weak, doesn't win headers and is no where near as fast as people claim him to be.

 

 

Accepting the bare minimum because the alternative is worse is why we're in this mess.

 

We know for a fact that we're not getting anything other than a bit of mindless pressing with Daka. We ought to at least have given someone like Otchere or Hutchinson a go by now but the problem is that it's not fair to throw a young lad in at the deep end.

 

Every side plays to the strengths of their striker yet that's impossible for us because our strikers are dog shit with no strengths whatsoever outside of Daka's willingness to run around like a headless chicken. The problem with that is that you can't play Daka with wingers like Mavididi and Fatawu because they are unwilling to join in with a press.

I'd rather we'd tried a young lad out at the start of the season as well, but Rowett isn't going to do that quite clearly, so out of the two options he's going to pick from I know who I'd rather have. That's not accepting the bare minimum, that's understanding what the current manager is going to do and wanting him to pick the better option of the two.

Posted

If he starts vs Watford there has to be a protest, either turn our backs on 9 minutes or stay in concourse for 9 minutes (or stay at home and have 9 pints so you don’t have to think about him). 
Give Daka a run of consecutive games or put Mukasa up as a 9 / false floaty 9.

Posted

To be honest I get a bit bored with the Daka v Ayew debate. 
 

It’s self evident that both are shite and that we should have planned for life after Vardy much better. Absolutely criminal negligence from the recruitment team to be left with these two. All this is a given.

 

This is where we are and choices still have to be made. I’d rather have Covid than Ebola Fever. For me Daka should always play as the team plays higher up the pitch when he is present. 
 

I don’t want to see Ayew play for us ever again. For months now I’d rather play Daka, change the system completely (false 9?), play somebody out of position as striker or, reluctantly, chuck one of the youth team players in. But not Ayew.

 

It might be a list of unsatisfactory options. We are in least worst territory but choices still have to be made and, for me, the outcome of those decisions would never be Ayew 

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Posted
50 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

attacks break down when he has the ball, we can never set up an effective press with him in the side

 

I'm sorry but this part is just bollocks.

 

Posted
32 minutes ago, Stadt said:

0.38 G+A per 90 this season - which is ok for this team, Daka has played fewer minutes than he ought to given his output.

 

If we’d started him over Ayew from the outset we’d have more points, simple as that.

Is 0.38 goals and assists per game really acceptable though?

 

It surely would put him amongst the very worst strikers in the league.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

I'm sorry but this part is just bollocks.

 

Which part?

 

I know you're the leading member and founder of the Patson Daka fan club but the lad's football ability is absolutely shocking and his headless chicken approach to pressing rarely amounts to anything. His style of pressing is just running directly at the ball as fast as he can and see what happens.

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Posted
27 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said:

I'd rather we'd tried a young lad out at the start of the season as well, but Rowett isn't going to do that quite clearly, so out of the two options he's going to pick from I know who I'd rather have. That's not accepting the bare minimum, that's understanding what the current manager is going to do and wanting him to pick the better option of the two.

I'm not saying that I wouldn't rather play Daka ahead of Ayew. Of course I would.

 

I'm just pointing out that all Daka offers over Ayew is that he runs around a bit and that you could play Patson for the entire season and we'd still be in this mess because he's clearly very, very shit and he offers very little.

 

The failure to sign a striker in January may well be the final nail in the coffin.

Posted
1 minute ago, AKCJ said:

Which part?

 

I know you're the leading member and founder of the Patson Daka fan club but the lad's football ability is absolutely shocking and his headless chicken approach to pressing rarely amounts to anything. His style of pressing is just running directly at the ball as fast as he can and see what happens.

the part where you claimed we can't set an effective press and attacks break down with him in the side. Criticise him for his finishing all you want, that's completely justified, but our attack is far more cohesive with him in it and our press far better. He can press and set a tempo, the whole issue is that he can't finish.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Is 0.38 goals and assists per game really acceptable though?

 

It surely would put him amongst the very worst strikers in the league.

No, it puts him at 54th (can't filter by position without faffing around in excel).

 

 

Cannon is on 0.31, Ivanovic at Millwall is at 0.32, Richard Kone 0.29

Posted
Just now, Stadt said:

No, it puts him at 54th (can't filter by position without faffing around in excel).

 

 

Cannon is on 0.31, Ivanovic at Millwall is at 0.32, Richard Kone 0.29

54th best return in the league, you'll never sing that.

 

Only 80 grand a week and supposedly in the prime years of his career by the way lol 

Posted
1 minute ago, The Doctor said:

the part where you claimed we can't set an effective press and attacks break down with him in the side. Criticise him for his finishing all you want, that's completely justified, but our attack is far more cohesive with him in it and our press far better. He can press and set a tempo, the whole issue is that he can't finish.

You've misunderstood me. We do press better than with Ayew but we still don't press well with Daka.

 

He will charge down the odd fullback playing the ball up the line to give away a throw in and people think that makes him a great presser.

 

I don't have figures to back it up but how many times has Patson Daka ever forced a mistake that has lead to a shot this season? I would wager that it's less than 3. 

 

He presses like a headless chicken and experienced defenders see him coming a mile off. The problem is that he looks like Carlos Tevez in comparison to Jordan Ayew.

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10 more years 10 more years Jordan Ayew

10 more years 10 more years I say 

 

10 more years 10 more years Jordan Ayew
playing football the Rowett way 💪

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Posted
7 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

I'm not saying that I wouldn't rather play Daka ahead of Ayew. Of course I would.

 

I'm just pointing out that all Daka offers over Ayew is that he runs around a bit and that you could play Patson for the entire season and we'd still be in this mess because he's clearly very, very shit and he offers very little.

 

The failure to sign a striker in January may well be the final nail in the coffin.

Well the first goal likely doesn't happen on Saturday because Daka actually presses the defender, so it's a bit more than "runs around a bit" being able to press and press well is tactical, how many goals have we conceded by being pressed well

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Posted

Only we could have a player that makes another useless sack of shit looks lot more desirable, with a goal scoring record so poor that people have to make sure to add assists, one has 10 goals in the last 2 seasons one has 4.

 

“Ayew offers nothing”

Guess what - 9 of our 11 wins he has started.

 

For the record I can’t stand either, but let’s not pretend Patson is some shining light 

Posted

With Ayew he actually provides a net loss to the team as it's like playing with 10 men against 12 as he offers

 

With Daka it looks like we're playing with 11 men, even if he looks like Bambi on Ice whenever the ball is near him.

 

We are undoubtedly weaker with Ayew in the team, I am absolutely baffled about what Marti or Rowett see in him.

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Posted (edited)
2 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

Only we could have a player that makes another useless sack of shit looks lot more desirable, with a goal scoring record so poor that people have to make sure to add assists, one has 10 goals in the last 2 seasons one has 4.

 

“Ayew offers nothing”

Guess what - 9 of our 11 wins he has started.

 

For the record I can’t stand either, but let’s not pretend Patson is some shining light 

I can only assume that it's mind games as the defenders aren't sure whether to follow the center forward and his slow rambles around the pitch lol

 

It genuinely makes no sense to me at all. Must be luck that he just happened to be starting when James or Fatawu have banged in another worldie against a poor team.

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Posted
2 hours ago, funkyrobot said:

He came with glowing references from Palace fans which is very strange considering his scoring statistics when he was there. Tbf he was mainly back up for them and never seen as a centre forward. Shows how far we’ve fallen and how flawed our transfer plan is that we sign a non goalscorer who isn’t naturally a number 9 and play him only as a number 9. I still think it’s bizarre how popular he was at Palace, same as I’m surprised by the glowing references that The Ghost of Bobby Reid got from Fulham fans. 

Did he? I only ever saw this statement regurgitated by Leicester fans which I assumed was just a cope. 
 

Maybe his agent hired Hamza’s bot army. 

Posted
55 minutes ago, Jobyfox said:

To be honest I get a bit bored with the Daka v Ayew debate. 
 

It’s self evident that both are shite and that we should have planned for life after Vardy much better. Absolutely criminal negligence from the recruitment team to be left with these two. All this is a given.

 

This is where we are and choices still have to be made. I’d rather have Covid than Ebola Fever. For me Daka should always play as the team plays higher up the pitch when he is present. 
 

I don’t want to see Ayew play for us ever again. For months now I’d rather play Daka, change the system completely (false 9?), play somebody out of position as striker or, reluctantly, chuck one of the youth team players in. But not Ayew.

 

It might be a list of unsatisfactory options. We are in least worst territory but choices still have to be made and, for me, the outcome of those decisions would never be Ayew 

Yeah both are dog shit but Daka gets the nod because he causes less problems across the pitch.  Ayew will actively seek out the ball in areas that are already covered and then just look to fall over or hold onto the ball and ignore his team mates u rip he loses it.  He has caused more counter attacks than attacks. 

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Posted

Those stats of his from the QPR game are absolutely disgusting. I’d say he should be ashamed but I don’t think he’s capable of that emotion. Piss taking charlatan. 

Posted (edited)
21 hours ago, EastAnglianFox said:

Nah, which one of you was this? lollol

 

 

He should be getting this every time he touches the pitch. 
 

This isn’t a player giving his all and just getting unlucky. He absolutely does not give a ****.

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