Jeremy Monga

[honeybradger]

9 hours ago, Chelmofox said:

Yup. The irony of this forum almost demanding we play the kids is that a lot of the fans turn on the academy grads pretty quickly. And heaven forbid if it turns our they aren't leicester fans.....

The fans who turn on academy graduates quickly are usually not the same ones who wanted them in the team in the first place.

 

Who cares if academy graduates don't live up to expectations? They never cost us a transfer fee.

[SkidsFox]

16 hours ago, Salieri said:

My mate manages a local bookies and I (half) jokingly asked him for a price for Monga to win a Ballon D’Or. He said he would look into it but off the top of his head he reckoned maybe around 1000/1?! 
 
Its obviously very unlikely but man those odds seem good to me 😮‍💨

I'd agree. I'd probably put the odds at around 200/1. If you had 200 similar players breaking through (over different seasons) then maybe one would reach the absolute top. Even there, I may be overstating it, perhaps 150/1 is a better ratio.

[Ric Flair]

47 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

The fans who turn on academy graduates quickly are usually not the same ones who wanted them in the team in the first place.

 

Who cares if academy graduates don't live up to expectations? They never cost us a transfer fee.

One of the best posts I've ever read on here. Bang on

[Noahfence]

53 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

The fans who turn on academy graduates quickly are usually not the same ones who wanted them in the team in the first place.

 

Who cares if academy graduates don't live up to expectations? They never cost us a transfer fee.

This is absolutely bang on

[SK3Blue]

Amazing prospect, genuinely the only thing that is exciting about this club at present. 

[Chelmofox]

1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

One of the best posts I've ever read on here. Bang on

Im personally completely aligned. I would go as far to say I would happily us play more of the academy and achieve lower mid table next season if it was the best development pathway for those players. 

 

But I've had to sit at the ground with people venomously calling Barnes 'utter sh1te', KDH a one footed fraud and Kasey completely useless. Even when we saw Thomas keep Salah at bay yet again someone near me said 'yeah, but he's still league 2 at best'.  The venom our academy graduates get really annoys me. Even seeing some rumblings about Jakub not being good enough online (i personally think Jakub will be as good a keeper as Mads).  I don't know if its like this at other clubs, but its depressing.

Edited 27 July 2025 by Chelmofox

[Bert]

2 hours ago, honeybradger said:

The fans who turn on academy graduates quickly are usually not the same ones who wanted them in the team in the first place.

 

Who cares if academy graduates don't live up to expectations? They never cost us a transfer fee.

People believe that because they’ve came through the academy and are “one of our own” they should be the next coming of Messi. 

[Jazzy_Jeff]

20 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

Im personally completely aligned. I would go as far to say I would happily us play more of the academy and achieve lower mid table next season if it was the best development pathway for those players. 

 

But I've had to sit at the ground with people venomously calling Barnes 'utter sh1te', KDH a one footed fraud and Kasey completely useless. Even when we saw Thomas keep Salah at bay yet again someone near me said 'yeah, but he's still league 2 at best'.  The venom our academy graduates get really annoys me. Even seeing some rumblings about Jakub not being good enough online (i personally think Jakub will be as good a keeper as Mads).  I don't know if its like this at other clubs, but its depressing.

I’m with you on this.

 

Its an exciting thought to have academy players throughout the team/squad next season.

 

if we can use next season to start gelling them together the spine of our 1st team could be built for years to come. 
 

we have to accept that there will be mistakes and a drop in form from time to time but it’s all part of their development. 

[BKLFox]

14 hours ago, trooky said:

He's 16 just out of the academy, were the results don't matter,  and it's all about producing individual talents and skills. 

 

He'll learn to develop his end product, the pressing etc in the first team all in good time. 

16 is what I’m saying, posters talking about him as if he’s the 2nd coming. Great to have a trick but now he’s in the bigger leagues against seasoned pros and if those tricks don’t work against them 99% of the time he’s got nothing to fall back on.

He & many posters need to understand the basics of the team and not rely on 1 magic moment in a game.

Yes I want him to get a lot of game time this season because we can all see potential but I don’t see him starting more games than Mavididi, who btw has his own issues to work on and is very much a further down the line Monga, in that once the RB has him he’s ineffective.

Then you look on the other wing and see Fatawu who contributes to the wider gameplay & yet still gets us out of our seats, now he could be on his way to being our most valuable player (ever).

[CrazyKopCorner]

1 hour ago, SK3Blue said:

Amazing prospect, genuinely the only thing that is exciting about this club at present. 

and Abdul 

[Chelmofox]

40 minutes ago, BKLFox said:

16 is what I’m saying, posters talking about him as if he’s the 2nd coming. Great to have a trick but now he’s in the bigger leagues against seasoned pros and if those tricks don’t work against them 99% of the time he’s got nothing to fall back on.

He & many posters need to understand the basics of the team and not rely on 1 magic moment in a game.

Yes I want him to get a lot of game time this season because we can all see potential but I don’t see him starting more games than Mavididi, who btw has his own issues to work on and is very much a further down the line Monga, in that once the RB has him he’s ineffective.

Then you look on the other wing and see Fatawu who contributes to the wider gameplay & yet still gets us out of our seats, now he could be on his way to being our most valuable player (ever).

Have you watched him in preseason? He has undoubtedly been our best player and actually doesn't rely on tricks. He's sailed past much older and bigger defenders and has shown strength to hold them off. Good chances have been generated from from his play showing he is contributing to the wider output.  Not often are Mongas tricks used to showboat. Its clear to me he's putting significant effort to improve and mature his game, and he doesn't look our of place in the team. FC Koln are a decent side - Monga belonged there and was one of the better players on the pitch.

 

You name check Fatawu, but when you go back to when he first arrived he was very, very raw (and should have been sent off in his first game) and it takes game time to get all the parts of their game working. Arguably, final output is the part of Fatawu's game that still needs to improve, and as with Monga - it will over time.

[Finnegan]

4 hours ago, honeybradger said:

The fans who turn on academy graduates quickly are usually not the same ones who wanted them in the team in the first place.

 

Who cares if academy graduates don't live up to expectations? They never cost us a transfer fee.

 

I'm not sure I entirely agree with this to be honest. It's too easy a generalisation. 

 

There's way too many people on here that are painfully fickle about our players regardless. 

 

Plenty of the same people that wanted Chilwell or Thomas to get in the team were the same as the ones calling them shit when they made their first mistakes. 

 

It's not just our academy players it applies to. Plenty of the people booing Iheanacho every time he got subbed on were the ones singing He's Magic You Know a year later. 

 

[Scotch]

1 hour ago, BKLFox said:

16 is what I’m saying, posters talking about him as if he’s the 2nd coming. Great to have a trick but now he’s in the bigger leagues against seasoned pros and if those tricks don’t work against them 99% of the time he’s got nothing to fall back on.

He & many posters need to understand the basics of the team and not rely on 1 magic moment in a game.

Yes I want him to get a lot of game time this season because we can all see potential but I don’t see him starting more games than Mavididi, who btw has his own issues to work on and is very much a further down the line Monga, in that once the RB has him he’s ineffective.

Then you look on the other wing and see Fatawu who contributes to the wider gameplay & yet still gets us out of our seats, now he could be on his way to being our most valuable player (ever).

I don't agree with this observation in the slightest. Yes, he bursts out a trick or two but no where near what you would call an over reliance on it. In fact, I would argue. He could probably look to have a bit more confidence and do it more to beat his man on the outside but he is far more likely to either play the pass to the byline for the player on the underlay or cut inside and look for the pass. We've seen this time and again during pre-season and it results in him contributing heavily to the teams attacking play as a whole and not just from an individual stand point. 

 

You say he has nothing to fall back on yet I probably wouldn't even list his skills in his top 3 attributes. His strength, his workrate and decision making are all far more impressive. 

 

I agree that fans need to temper their expectation of him and let him develop but your observation of him as a player is low-key bizarre IMO. 

[Uncle Monty]

I don't remember a time when we have had so many prospects coming through at once. It's really genuinely exciting.

 

It's masking a lot of problems at the club but whatever, if it's the fruit of the new training ground then it's something the ownership has done well. 

[Uncle Monty]

It's like a champ man new season and the youth crop is amazing.

[DJ Barry Hammond]

2 hours ago, BKLFox said:

16 is what I’m saying, posters talking about him as if he’s the 2nd coming. Great to have a trick but now he’s in the bigger leagues against seasoned pros and if those tricks don’t work against them 99% of the time he’s got nothing to fall back on.

He & many posters need to understand the basics of the team and not rely on 1 magic moment in a game.

Yes I want him to get a lot of game time this season because we can all see potential but I don’t see him starting more games than Mavididi, who btw has his own issues to work on and is very much a further down the line Monga, in that once the RB has him he’s ineffective.

Then you look on the other wing and see Fatawu who contributes to the wider gameplay & yet still gets us out of our seats, now he could be on his way to being our most valuable player (ever).

So, based on how he’s been used during pre-season, I’d suggest Marti’s planning on using him as the starter in that left wing position.

 

And I don’t blame him either.

 

I have never seen a player glide so effortlessly and consistently past players than I have with Monga.

 

Now you could argue there’s a slight issue with ‘output’ in terms of chances he’s created for himself or others so far in pre-season; but I’d argue that’s as much about the play around him than what Monga’s doing.

 

For one, I’d say our movement around him hasn’t begun to take advantage of what a talent this lad is.

 

For example, it’s very clear that he’s so good that you don’t really need the fullback overlapping/underlapping ahead of him that often.

 

I’d say there’s more point in our left fullback holding as cover and a recycle ball more often than not; to give Monga the space and defensive cover he needs to confidently beat his man / men with skill or killer pass (think what Simpson used to do behind Mahrez).

 

Then add in some better quality runs from our striker / advanced midfielders and Monga’s statistical output will start to match the level of talent this kid is.

 

 

[worthosoriginals]

2 hours ago, BKLFox said:

16 is what I’m saying, posters talking about him as if he’s the 2nd coming. Great to have a trick but now he’s in the bigger leagues against seasoned pros and if those tricks don’t work against them 99% of the time he’s got nothing to fall back on.

He & many posters need to understand the basics of the team and not rely on 1 magic moment in a game.

Yes I want him to get a lot of game time this season because we can all see potential but I don’t see him starting more games than Mavididi, who btw has his own issues to work on and is very much a further down the line Monga, in that once the RB has him he’s ineffective.

Then you look on the other wing and see Fatawu who contributes to the wider gameplay & yet still gets us out of our seats, now he could be on his way to being our most valuable player (ever).

Ah someone here planting a first seed of doubt about the lad, maybe hoping to slaughter him if he hasn't got 10+ goals and 7 assists by November, ranting... I told yer all in july hes overrated

[cropstonfox]

5 minutes ago, worthosoriginals said:

Ah someone here planting a first seed of doubt about the lad, maybe hoping to slaughter him if he hasn't got 10+ goals and 7 assists by November, ranting... I told yer all in july hes overrated

When you have a shit relegated team, 

Then Fans cling on to any hope for the future that they can.An imminent signing

or a promising youngsters.Often they turn out to be ordinary or worse.Aim your expectations as low as possible and you

won't be disappointed, you might even pleasantly suprised-but it's probably unlikely. 

[Chelmofox]

18 minutes ago, cropstonfox said:

When you have a shit relegated team, 

Then Fans cling on to any hope for the future that they can.An imminent signing

or a promising youngsters.Often they turn out to be ordinary or worse.Aim your expectations as low as possible and you

won't be disappointed, you might even pleasantly suprised-but it's probably unlikely. 

There is no point aiming low with some of these lads. From what we have seen, Monga has the ability to reach the very top, and Aluko, Alves & Evans have at least the ability to be 1st team starters for us.  Jakub is already a first team starter. Aim high and help them reach their potential. Don't knock them back when they make mistakes whilst learning on the job.

[BKLFox]

1 hour ago, worthosoriginals said:

Ah someone here planting a first seed of doubt about the lad, maybe hoping to slaughter him if he hasn't got 10+ goals and 7 assists by November, ranting... I told yer all in july hes overrated

Far from it!

 

I just come from a background where you learn the basics first and foremost.

I wonder boxer doesn’t go mixing it with the big boys from day 1 on the back of some great bag work.

My interest if anything Is in protecting him believe it or not.

 

As for being a “ I told you kidda guy…” again couldn’t be further from who I am, I don’t go over the top when we win nor do I reach for a knife when we lose, my experiences & being well rounded have taught me that.

[FOXSE]

4 hours ago, Chelmofox said:

Have you watched him in preseason? He has undoubtedly been our best player and actually doesn't rely on tricks. He's sailed past much older and bigger defenders and has shown strength to hold them off. Good chances have been generated from from his play showing he is contributing to the wider output.  Not often are Mongas tricks used to showboat. Its clear to me he's putting significant effort to improve and mature his game, and he doesn't look our of place in the team. FC Koln are a decent side - Monga belonged there and was one of the better players on the pitch.

 

You name check Fatawu, but when you go back to when he first arrived he was very, very raw (and should have been sent off in his first game) and it takes game time to get all the parts of their game working. Arguably, final output is the part of Fatawu's game that still needs to improve, and as with Monga - it will over time.

This 'fatawu raw' thing has to stop. He was pretty much quality and productive from day one... shattering the championship 'big chances created' stat in his debut season having turned up about 5 games in!

[Guest]

14 minutes ago, FOXSE said:

This 'fatawu raw' thing has to stop. He was pretty much quality and productive from day one... shattering the championship 'big chances created' stat in his debut season having turned up about 5 games in!

Raw may be a bit of an overstatement but so is productive from day one given he put up one goal and one assist in his first dozen games. He definitely improved in the second half of the season

[FOXSE]

35 minutes ago, Guest said:

Raw may be a bit of an overstatement but so is productive from day one given he put up one goal and one assist in his first dozen games. He definitely improved in the second half of the season

Its a hill I will die on! 😄 

[cityfanlee23]

21 hours ago, MPH said:

I don’t think we as fans are putting too much pressure on him. To the outside world we are just a club fan base getting over hyped with a young player.

 

 

however once this seasons starts and the games start ticking over,  the club better be on the ball and be protecting him because he’s going to get swarmed by the football world.. the attention could be unbearable 

It's hard to tell really, at the end of the day we will only know if we put too much pressure on him in hindsight some time in the future, plenty of players that were playing at or above Mongas level have openly spoken about how pressure got to them, or some other players couldn't handle so much so soon and let their ego take over. We won't know how Monga reacts because we know nothing about him outside of his pitch performances, I just hope the fans sit on the side of caution, because as you mentioned the fan base is over hyped at the moment. 

He's got huge potential but christ, people talking about Barcelona, Real Madrid, Ballon D'or, £100m sales. It's wild. 

[Grebfromgrebland]

On 26/07/2025 at 13:16, SafewayFox said:

Good shout.

 

Mahrez obviously had a great career but wouldn’t sadly ever (outside of LCFC fans) be labelled as elite and rightly or wrongly, his athleticism was the big reason way IMO.

 

I’m with you though, Monga and some of the other youngsters are the only reason that I don’t have my pitchforks at the ready.

Mahrez was fully appreciated by Man City which is about as elite as it gets.