Steve Cooper SACKED! OFFICIAL!

[TrentFox]

I wish him well. We looked dreadful during his stint here, but that can’t all be his fault. He leaves us with more points than I thought we’d have at this stage, too. Right decision to get rid, as performances have been dire, but he gave it a go and seems a decent bloke. Good luck to him. 

[Spudulike]

Without going back through the stats in detail, I think that it must be one of the shortest managerial reigns in the clubs history 

 

Other than Martin Allen (4 games) and Sousa (also 12 games). 

 

Any others?

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

3 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

Without going back through the stats in detail, I think that it must be one of the shortest managerial reigns in the clubs history 

 

Other than Martin Allen (4 games) and Sousa (also 12 games). 

 

Any others?

 

Megson was surely shorter than Sousa?

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

Just now, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

Megson was surely shorter than Sousa?

Try saying this after 175ml of red wan

[Mickyblueeyes]

3 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

Without going back through the stats in detail, I think that it must be one of the shortest managerial reigns in the clubs history 

 

Other than Martin Allen (4 games) and Sousa (also 12 games). 

 

Any others?

Megson I think was only here for a month ? Which was fantastic. 
 

Nigel Worthington - 3 games ? But perhaps not a permanent appointment

[foxfanazer]

Said it the other day, he'll be the Hull manager by the start of next week

[honeybradger]

To be fair to him, us being outside the relegation zone when he left is about as good as it was ever going to go down between him and us. Considering our performances he hasnt left us in too bad of a spot (arguably his transfers are what have hurt us most).

[Spudulike]

7 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

Megson was surely shorter than Sousa?

 

4 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

Megson I think was only here for a month ? Which was fantastic. 
 

Nigel Worthington - 3 games ? But perhaps not a permanent appointment

Yes, the Ginger Mourinho only lasted a whole 9 games.

 

Worthington was only a caretaker.

[Gamble92]

16 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

Without going back through the stats in detail, I think that it must be one of the shortest managerial reigns in the clubs history 

 

Other than Martin Allen (4 games) and Sousa (also 12 games). 

 

Any others?

You missed out Megson. 

 

Any of us that lived through Mandaric see stints like Cooper's as long term.

[Spudulike]

18 minutes ago, Gamble92 said:

You missed out Megson. 

 

Any of us that lived through Mandaric see stints like Cooper's as long term.

Yes, see above. Megson actually quit to go to Bolton rather than get the sack like the others.

[LCFCJohn]

I’ve seen a few articles that point to our ‘recent manager history’, suggesting we are burning through managers and with a tone of us being trigger happy.

 

Rodgers - was long overdue and given more chances that he should have. Was begging to go.

 

Smith - I’ve seen it suggested he was also sacked rather than the truth of him being an interim appointment until the end of the season who didn’t do what was needed and left at the end of his contract.

 

Maresca - poached

 

Cooper - maybe by some basic metrics, it might appear at surface level a bit soon but those who know the detail know this was the right call. 
 

So it’s not like we are sacking managers hand over fist.

[Groby_Blue]

2 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

I’ve seen a few articles that point to our ‘recent manager history’, suggesting we are burning through managers and with a tone of us being trigger happy.

 

Rodgers - was long overdue and given more chances that he should have. Was begging to go.

 

Smith - I’ve seen it suggested he was also sacked rather than the truth of him being an interim appointment until the end of the season who didn’t do what was needed and left at the end of his contract.

 

Maresca - poached

 

Cooper - maybe by some basic metrics, it might appear at surface level a bit soon but those who know the detail know this was the right call. 
 

So it’s not like we are sacking managers hand over fist.

We sack the shite ones and the decent ones just leave anyway. 

[Daggers]

3 hours ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

Try saying this after 175ml of red wan

Is that one of the King Power Thai freebies made from desiccated coconut?

[inckley fox]

15 hours ago, TrentFox said:

I wish him well. We looked dreadful during his stint here, but that can’t all be his fault. He leaves us with more points than I thought we’d have at this stage, too. Right decision to get rid, as performances have been dire, but he gave it a go and seems a decent bloke. Good luck to him. 

Obviously if some players were unwilling to let go of Maresca's style of play - and that looks to be the case - then it was always going to pose a problem for anyone trying to implement a less possession-based approach. Especially when transfer business was so restrained. Personally, I feared we'd have been mauled if we tried to do in the PL what we'd done in the FLC, so I'm pretty dismayed by the allegations of a lack of professionalism on their part. It also indicates a lack of realism.

 

Even so, I agree that the writing seemed to be on the wall with Cooper, and even under the circumstances his decision-making was seriously uneven. But if you're dealing with people who aren't willing to toe the line, or who have exceptionally inflated senses of their own worth, then you're bound to see decisions which are, on the surface, nonsensical. It happened early in Pearson's second reign too. And the fact that many of these players were involved in a wholly unexpected relegation in the recent past suggests that something is amiss with their application.

 

There's a consensus in the journalism right now that there were four principal problems with Cooper: performances, form, player response and fan response. I thought the decision to get rid made sense because of these issues, but the truth is that many of us fans contributed to one of them. It's understandable for the most part, but at times it can't have been helpful.

 

Plenty of fans are crowing now about how right they were, but their judgement was based on prejudice rather than giving him a chance and evaluating that it wasn't working. The number of things I heard and read related to his looks and his Forest connections, two entirely irrelevant matters, didn't reflect well. As for the relevant gripes, well, performances were indeed poor but we were in a respectable position in the league. He does have limited pedigree as a top boss, but then again many of those who've made a big deal of this would prefer Van Nistelrooy or Corberan, who have even less. That's just where we are as a club now. Again, some realism helps.

 

It will be interesting to see how things work out, given that we're out of the relegation zone right now and fan pressure was likely a contributing factor to his sacking. I hope for our sake that those brave souls who've dedicated these past months to a Cooper Out campaign feel vindicated come May.

[Clever Fox]

I would'nt be sheding any tears over Cooper. He simply wasn't up to the job.

 

He'll get a chance somewhere else with a wad of our cash in his pocket, While we've lost out on a whole season now.

[em9999]

I shed tears over Cooper

 

Of happiness he left 

[Madelin21]

Let's give them a bit of respect. Nobody wanted us with that FFP over us. He took us on and even though there was no identity, we were competitive 99% of games. It weren't pretty but I've seen worse. Eg Taylor, Holloway! Bloke never stood a chance due to Forest and rightly so.

[Sly]

2 minutes ago, Madelin21 said:

Let's give them a bit of respect. Nobody wanted us with that FFP over us. He took us on and even though there was no identity, we were competitive 99% of games. It weren't pretty but I've seen worse. Eg Taylor, Holloway! Bloke never stood a chance due to Forest and rightly so.

I think we are lucky to get the points we have to be honest. 

Without Hermansen, we’d be bottom. 

 

[Madelin21]

Come on mate, I'm not Coopers son but he wasn't that bad. He needed to go because the fans hated him and the players clearly had issues but he weren't the worst weve seen. I was at Stoke with Holloway!

[Sly]

29 minutes ago, Madelin21 said:

Come on mate, I'm not Coopers son but he wasn't that bad. He needed to go because the fans hated him and the players clearly had issues but he weren't the worst weve seen. I was at Stoke with Holloway!

Oh, we’ve been worse. I don’t think the Holloway team was that bad, it just couldn’t score! 
 

Some of the football Levein, Bassett etc played was awful. 
 

All about expectations really. 
 

Pearson got given the season when we came back up last time, as you could see we were in games. The reality is Coopers teams looked like a punch drunk boxer, on the ropes, hanging by the skin of its teeth for large proportions of games. 
 

We’ve had some luck and I’m thankful of that. As it at least gives RVN a points base to try and push on. Fingers crossed; the board have got this one right. 

[Lambert09]

it was pretty obvious he was clueless when danny ward was being selected ahead of iversen 

[Claudio Fannieri]

Seen in Morrisons, must have got a Christmas job whilst waiting for the call from Wolves 

[CrazyKopCorner]

Just now, Claudio Fannieri said:

Seen in Morrisons, must have got a Christmas job whilst waiting for the call from Wolves 

FM he's spruced himself up a bit and had some work done 

 

 

[Muzzy_no7]

24 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

Seen in Morrisons, must have got a Christmas job whilst waiting for the call from Wolves 

Wolves won’t be that stupid

[cruzFOX]

Only saving grace ‘could’ have been a shocking win over his Forest team.thought he would have been really motivated to do that but it was all a bit sheepish.

 

anyway he wasn’t our guy and he’s gone now so let’s back rude boy to fire us up to survival. Energy better well spent imo