Ruud van Nistelrooy - New Manager - Official

[coolhandfox]

Ruud struggling.

 

But our defensive options are the same ones who got relegated, with the likes of good PL players Barnes, Tielemans, Maddison playing in the team in front of them 

 

 

What's chance does this squad have.

 

[Ric Flair]

Whilst they ultimately still lost, although that goal ruled out to equaliser was ridiculous, Villa made 4 changes at half time. That decision not to make changes is not a manager who's got the motivation to battle here.

[Iwebema]

1 minute ago, Ric Flair said:

Whilst they ultimately still lost, although that goal ruled out to equaliser was ridiculous, Villa made 4 changes at half time. That decision not to make changes is not a manager who's got the motivation to battle here.

It's all a bit Brendan now, wants out feels like he's been lied to, but is being convinced to stay on when his hearts not in it. Only difference is he's a complete novice and it's showing

[Claudio Fannieri]

1 hour ago, Iwebema said:

For what it's worth, I do have some contacts within football, unfortunately linked to forest....from what they've said, all the press releases before Tottenham about RVN wanting to walk were all true, he's fuming that he's not been backed and is having to do it with this squad. The complication is he was hand picked by Top so Top is heavily invested in this one. It all sounds like it's a bit of shit show behind closed doors and no one really knows what the right thing to do is, spend v consolidate etc.

Just passing on what they have said, recognise its 3rd hand from people in the game at another club.

This why I think Ruud will walk he is a proud man and will not suffer fools and being given false promises, he can save his reputation by walking and be open and honest as to the complete shit show of a club we have become. 
 

if he clings on he is only damaging his own reputation and what’s the point in that especially when it’s to protect a board not fit for purpose, a DoF out of his depth and a rancid squad of players who don’t want to take a shred of responsibility and accountability for the results and performances. 

[winteriscoming]

He’ll quit and end up getting a decent side in Europe. Similar to Kompany with Bayern. 

[Happy Fox]

10 minutes ago, Iwebema said:

It's all a bit Brendan now, wants out feels like he's been lied to, but is being convinced to stay on when his hearts not in it. Only difference is he's a complete novice and it's showing

 

He has to go, it's all on these charlatans.

[Bordersfox]

16 minutes ago, Iwebema said:

It's all a bit Brendan now, wants out feels like he's been lied to, but is being convinced to stay on when his hearts not in it. Only difference is he's a complete novice and it's showing

The club is really in a pickle this transfer window.   To put it mildly.  And yet again their own dithering incompetence has caused it. 

 

They should have gone all out to get four players in as quickly as possible, give Ruud the tools they promised and inject fresh belief into squad.  Happy manager, reinvigorated dressing room.  The best chance of survival.  A risk but a calculated one.  

 

Now there is a real argument that we are in such a cluster fvck of a situation that we might as well spend nothing and be slightly less shafted financially when we go down.  Particularly as we will absolutely be bent over on any deals this late on.   

 

The clubs own fvckwittery and Rudkin's pathetic sloth in getting things over the line now mean we are paralysed with no idea of whether to stick or twist.  

 

The level of incompetence, complacency and stupidity is breathtaking.  

[Iwebema]

15 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

This why I think Ruud will walk he is a proud man and will not suffer fools and being given false promises, he can save his reputation by walking and be open and honest as to the complete shit show of a club we have become. 
 

if he clings on he is only damaging his own reputation and what’s the point in that especially when it’s to protect a board not fit for purpose, a DoF out of his depth and a rancid squad of players who don’t want to take a shred of responsibility and accountability for the results and performances. 

It all just sounds very messy, he's angry he's been lied to and wants out, Top is aware of the optics of sacking 2 managers in 20 odd games, especially one he hand picked.... as you can imagine there is no plan for what if ruud isn't very good, we are very much scrambling here, and who the hell is willingly going to a club that from the outside is operating like Watford ha

 

I would imagine it must be on Ruuds mind walking out on 2 clubs in a row isn't a good look and as much as it would be great if he did and then took shots at Rudkin/Top etc. I can't imagine if he wants a management career taking shots at owners and DoFs after 2 walk outs is going to get your career on track...you become a bit of a marked man with nothing to back it up so teams will just stay well clear, plenty of other managers out there.

 

It's honestly such a mess, I'm finding it really hard to have any positivity at all, it must be pushing even the happiest of happy clappers to the brink

[Tielemans63]

A poorly thought-through appointment. 

[Happy Fox]

1 minute ago, Iwebema said:

It all just sounds very messy, he's angry he's been lied to and wants out, Top is aware of the optics of sacking 2 managers in 20 odd games, especially one he hand picked.... as you can imagine there is no plan for what if ruud isn't very good, we are very much scrambling here, and who the hell is willingly going to a club that from the outside is operating like Watford ha

 

I would imagine it must be on Ruuds mind walking out on 2 clubs in a row isn't a good look and as much as it would be great if he did and then took shots at Rudkin/Top etc. I can't imagine if he wants a management career taking shots at owners and DoFs after 2 walk outs is going to get your career on track...you become a bit of a marked man with nothing to back it up so teams will just stay well clear, plenty of other managers out there.

 

It's honestly such a mess, I'm finding it really hard to have any positivity at all, it must be pushing even the happiest of happy clappers to the brink

 

Ruud talked to Enzo prior to joining us, Enzo told him it's a great club etc, but didn't mention to him crucially the board lies... would he have joined in the first place if the board lies? I doubt it, it's all on Ruud to walk he's well within his right.

[Filbert Fireworks]

35 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Ruud struggling.

 

But our defensive options are the same ones who got relegated, with the likes of good PL players Barnes, Tielemans, Maddison playing in the team in front of them 

 

 

What's chance does this squad have.

 

But we could try to change out tactics. 

 

Play a low block to negate our lack of speed. 

Play 3 cb's with wingbacks to sure up the defence. 

Play counter attack football. 

 

But no we roll out 4231 without the personnel. Play a high line and tic tac pass it around and wonder why we concede 3 goals a game. 

 

[Realist Guy In The Room]

Clearly been stitched up and I don’t think anyone at all would blame him if he walked away.

 

But as others have said, doing it to 2 clubs in a row probably isn’t gonna help him long-term.

 

I can actually see him staying until the end of the season, then walking away and taking shots at the board. That would actually show him in quite a good light. 

 

It really does go to show the absolute calamity that is happening at board level. From the second Enzo left, they’ve been winging it. Granted, him leaving wasn’t expected and they weren’t expecting to make a managerial appointment for a couple of years, but my God, Cooper!! Now Ruud!!

 

It’s so sad that the legacy of King power ownership that should’ve been enshrined forever as a positive memory in the clubs history, is inevitably going to come to an end in the darkest possible way.

[Bordersfox]

4 minutes ago, Happy Fox said:

 

Ruud talked to Enzo prior to joining us, Enzo told him it's a great club etc, but didn't mention to him crucially the board lies... would he have joined in the first place if the board lies? I doubt it, it's all on Ruud to walk he's well within his right.

I'll give Ruud the benefit of the doubt on this occasion, it does seem odd Enzo didn't tell him.  

 

However, any manager now coming in has had fair warning.  You cannot believe a word of what is said about transfers.

[Ric Flair]

Brian Barry-Murphy is likely the contingency and next seasons manager should Ruud go?

[Nolucklcfc]

Just now, Ric Flair said:

Brian Barry-Murphy is likely the contingency and next seasons manager should Ruud go?

Dyche 

[Corky]

2 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Brian Barry-Murphy is likely the contingency and next seasons manager should Ruud go?

Two first names is tough on the fans. Definite mentions of this Barry bloke, Barry Murphy and Brian Murphy on the way.

[Heathrow fox]

The more this mess continues the more I doubt that RVN bothered to do any research on the club before joining.I find that very alarming.

[Soar Fox]

1 minute ago, Nolucklcfc said:

Dyche 

Doubt the man child would go for him. He wants us to be Manchester City lite. 

[Nolucklcfc]

Just now, Soar Fox said:

Doubt the man child would go for him. He wants us to be Manchester City lite. 

Working brilliantly so far. 

[splinterdream]

50 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Whilst they ultimately still lost, although that goal ruled out to equaliser was ridiculous, Villa made 4 changes at half time. That decision not to make changes is not a manager who's got the motivation to battle here.

I was saying to my Dad, wonder what the reaction would be if he made changes after 25 minutes pulling ayew for mav, facundo or kacey because it was clear from then, it wasn't working

[reynard]

17 minutes ago, Iwebema said:

It all just sounds very messy, he's angry he's been lied to and wants out, Top is aware of the optics of sacking 2 managers in 20 odd games, especially one he hand picked.... as you can imagine there is no plan for what if ruud isn't very good, we are very much scrambling here, and who the hell is willingly going to a club that from the outside is operating like Watford ha

 

I would imagine it must be on Ruuds mind walking out on 2 clubs in a row isn't a good look and as much as it would be great if he did and then took shots at Rudkin/Top etc. I can't imagine if he wants a management career taking shots at owners and DoFs after 2 walk outs is going to get your career on track...you become a bit of a marked man with nothing to back it up so teams will just stay well clear, plenty of other managers out there.

 

It's honestly such a mess, I'm finding it really hard to have any positivity at all, it must be pushing even the happiest of happy clappers to the brink

If this is correct he's not doing his future prospects any good by staying and basically throwing in the towel which is  what it looked like yesterday.  A strong manager would have taken off both centre backs after 6 minutes. I can't imagine how Alex Ferguson would have reacted to that first half performance but he sure as hell wouldn't have made zero subs at half time or even before.

[Pliskin]

He is doing what we feared Enzo would. 

[Vindaloo FOX]

Rob Edwards or Dyche

[Walshie is God]

I wonder

 

https://www.footballinsider247.com/ruud-van-nistelrooy-to-resign-after-everton-loss-leicester-fans-rage/

[Tuna]

Just now, Vindaloo FOX said:

Rob Edwards

He's just been sacked by Luton who are heading for League One