Ruud van Nistelrooy - New Manager - Official

[The Doctor]

5 hours ago, Seventyseven said:

Because Dyche was such a roaring success at Everton. He’s awful, football is awful and Everton vastly improved since they finally got rid. 

yep. Dyche is a dinosaur and would be crap for us. I'm almost at the point of wanting him to take over just so everyone can see that and stop suggesting him

[CrispinLA in Texas]

I don't think the Ruud has clocked out like what Rogers did, I just think Ruud is just clueless on what to do, he really hasn't the managerial abilities.

[4dollarsapound]

5 hours ago, Seventyseven said:

Because Dyche was such a roaring success at Everton. He’s awful, football is awful and Everton vastly improved since they finally got rid. 

I kind of followed everton for a while under Lampard. Dyche was a big step up from him. I also think Dyche is the man you want to avoid relegation. Any aim above that yeah, hes not your man.

 

But Ruud needs to go. Losing like that, from michael scott at man united...

 

Every week different tactics. Really, Ruud is the same as Rooney, Lampard. Not good enough. Remember he also failed as forwards coach at united. Nice guy though

Edited 17 March by 4dollarsapound

[Seventyseven]

45 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

yep. Dyche is a dinosaur and would be crap for us. I'm almost at the point of wanting him to take over just so everyone can see that and stop suggesting him

It’s a very sad day when some fans are clamouring for Sean bloody Dyche. 
 

We don’t even have a lump up front for it to be hoofed too. 

[SuperMike]

4 minutes ago, Seventyseven said:

It’s a very sad day when some fans are clamouring for Sean bloody Dyche. 
 

We don’t even have a lump up front for it to be hoofed too. 

........oh, I reckon we've got plenty of lumps...

[ALC Fox]

Not entirely sure why some want Dyche. Everton were probably realistic candidates for relegation under him, which, when you consider just how bad the current bottom three are, is some achievement.

 

He'd set us up to defend, which these players can't do. So not a great deal would change at all, in my opinion.

[Parker Pen]

14 minutes ago, Seventyseven said:

It’s a very sad day when some fans are clamouring for Sean bloody Dyche. 
 

We don’t even have a lump up front for it to be hoofed too. 

I tend to disagree and think he is exactly what’s needed to fix this shit show and would be a good fit for Leicester! He would clear out the dross not be scared to make unpopular decisions and build a team spirit that would make the team hopefully hard to beat at least. The fans would then get behind this as he’s an underdog type, and let’s face it we have always had our best years being the underdog rather than pretending to be something we aren’t.

[Vazman]

4 hours ago, FoxinNotts said:

We’re down. Don’t get me wrong, I know this.

But, you can’t tell me, that the board are looking at the results under Ruud, and they’re thinking “ok, we’re relegated, but Ruud is the man to take us back up” ! Its mental!

They should be changing the manager NOW for the following two reasons:

 

a) Get someone in to start their own planning for next season

2) absolutely nobody would be saying “I can’t believe that sacked Ruud. I thought he should’ve been given more time!”

 

And by keeping hold off him and accepting the crap we as fans are being served is basically saying, "Don't worry about the rest of the season, we absolutely don't mind losing every single week, and we have basically given up" not really something as fans we want or should be getting behind.

[HankMarvin]

There was a lot of self belief the last time we went down.

Players believed they were unfortunate to get relegated after finishing in 8th the season before.

 

Dean Smiths effort with shakey to restore some confidence as manager that now looks Prime Wenger compared to RVN run.

 

This time, they are going to know they are not good enough if they did get promoted again, record breakers for all the wrong reasons.

 

Fear factor for the other teams playing them, not exactly going to

be bothered about facing Leicester after such a dismal display this season.where as before we were being lauded as having a reserve team worthy of winning the champ.

 

Top needs to pull his head out of Rudkins arse and make a decision quick, because it’s not just PSR they will be battling next season, it’s the knock on effect of the pleb in control.

 

[ACF]

13 hours ago, adam95581 said:

I don’t think these managers exist anymore outside of maybe Pep and Klopp. They work as part of a bigger team (DOF, Recruitment etc) and so the manager generally doesn’t have the sway that Pearson had. 
 

I take the point though - we need someone who has a clear set of principles and standards and has the character / personality to enforce it. 

I truly think the chance for that was Potter, who wanted his own DOF…

[The Doctor]

2 hours ago, CrispinLA in Texas said:

I don't think the Ruud has clocked out like what Rogers did, I just think Ruud is just clueless on what to do, he really hasn't the managerial abilities.

idk, I remember us watching the man City and Liverpool games and thinking there were some green shoots, that we were just mads and wilf being fit, and a couple of sensible huth type signings, away from being able to compete. since mid January though we've become absolutely nothing. I do think he learnt the club lied about the finances for signings and just started half arsing it.

[Finn Claw II]

Interesting to see if he walks at the end of the season.  I suspect he will as unless Rudkin can move about 15-20 players on, we’ll have another season with most of this squad before the big rebuild.

 

in hindsight not getting promoted and being forced to clear the squad would have been a blessing in disguise.  
 

I’d almost welcome a transfer ban at this point to stop us wasting money 

[LeePhilpottsBaldSpot]

I'm sure this is preaching to the converted but something has to change even if just to show that 14 losses out of 15 and 7 home losses in a row without scoring is unacceptable.

 

However, I have so little confidence that a worthwhile person would be appointed I want deeper changes before giving a new contract to a new manager.

 

1. Sack Rudkin / whoever is making board decisions

 

2. Appoint their replacements

 

3. Get them to do a genuine root and branch review, and if they so decide bring in a new manager.

 

Saying that, RVN has checked out so we might as well as put an interim in charge til the end of the season.

Edited 17 March by LeePhilpottsBaldSpot

[Richmondfox]

2 hours ago, Parker Pen said:

I tend to disagree and think he is exactly what’s needed to fix this shit show and would be a good fit for Leicester! He would clear out the dross not be scared to make unpopular decisions and build a team spirit that would make the team hopefully hard to beat at least. The fans would then get behind this as he’s an underdog type, and let’s face it we have always had our best years being the underdog rather than pretending to be something we aren’t.

The problem would then be that we are stuck with the dross that he brings in. 

[Dan]

13 hours ago, Seventyseven said:

Because Dyche was such a roaring success at Everton. He’s awful, football is awful and Everton vastly improved since they finally got rid. 

Dyche at Everton vastly surpasses anything we've served up since 2021, and is likely to for the foreseeable future. Not even close in all honesty.

[SafewayFox]

I can’t shake the mentality that with both Cooper and Ruud (with no back room team) that you reap what you sow.

 

We went for cheap options and you get cheap/poor results.

 

I dislike everything about our club right now.

Edited 18 March by SafewayFox

[Pliskin]

We don’t need Dyche. 
 

What we need to do is sack Ruud now, as he’s all but given up anyway, just let the backroom handle the team until the summer, with the brief of integrating academy players into the team….

 

And then take our time to make the right appointment. We need someone with the personality of Enzo, someone who will come in and take control of the club…..

 

Relegation is all but confirmed, the planning needs to start now, and if Ruud isn’t in next seasons plans, get rid and start to get things right now. 

[Claudio Fannieri]

4 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

We don’t need Dyche. 
 

What we need to do is sack Ruud now, as he’s all but given up anyway, just let the backroom handle the team until the summer, with the brief of integrating academy players into the team….

 

And then take our time to make the right appointment. We need someone with the personality of Enzo, someone who will come in and take control of the club…..

 

Relegation is all but confirmed, the planning needs to start now, and if Ruud isn’t in next seasons plans, get rid and start to get things right now. 

Completely agree however I doubt it will happen, we are in desperate need of a complete reset, as you say we need a Maresca/Pearson type to come in and completely overhaul the place and establish the culture and blueprint for a successful and sustainable future. 
 

However my fear is the self preservation society that own and control our football club are in that horrible short term cycle of trying to desperately hang onto the coat tails of the premier league. Rather than take a long term view where we may have to accept a year or 2 of championship football but change our strategy to promoting our top academy players and building our an exciting young squad with a bright up and coming manager, and whilst short term we may take a bump or two, long term we will be on the right road, we will instead lurch from one short term appointment to another to another in the desperate hope we bounce back and by some miracle stay up. 
 

There is far more chance of me getting behind a championship team/squad built around players like Stolrcyrk, Bausor, Jospeh, Nelson, Cartwright, Braybrooke, Monga. Evans, Alves etc than seeing tossers like Ayew, Soumare, BDCR, Coady, Vesty et al trotting about stealing a living from my club any longer. 

[Pliskin]

31 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

Completely agree however I doubt it will happen, we are in desperate need of a complete reset, as you say we need a Maresca/Pearson type to come in and completely overhaul the place and establish the culture and blueprint for a successful and sustainable future. 
 

However my fear is the self preservation society that own and control our football club are in that horrible short term cycle of trying to desperately hang onto the coat tails of the premier league. Rather than take a long term view where we may have to accept a year or 2 of championship football but change our strategy to promoting our top academy players and building our an exciting young squad with a bright up and coming manager, and whilst short term we may take a bump or two, long term we will be on the right road, we will instead lurch from one short term appointment to another to another in the desperate hope we bounce back and by some miracle stay up. 
 

There is far more chance of me getting behind a championship team/squad built around players like Stolrcyrk, Bausor, Jospeh, Nelson, Cartwright, Braybrooke, Monga. Evans, Alves etc than seeing tossers like Ayew, Soumare, BDCR, Coady, Vesty et al trotting about stealing a living from my club any longer. 

100% agree, and I’m with you, I just don’t think the club has that vision. To be honest, it’s more likely Top who doesn’t have that vision, he’s desperate to cling onto the PL as you perfectly described….. I’m now of the opinion Top is the main issue, he’s completely and utterly lost control of the ship, and it’s heading straight for the iceberg……

[grth2004]

What has to happen for Rudd to go ?

He seems to be talking like he’s planning for next season which means they’ve told him his job is safe and his last interview he was basically saying it’s over we’re down. 
So he can do whatever he wants knowing he’s safe and the players although look thoroughly fed up with him are stuck with no hope although they are partly to blame I believe we could be better with a motivated manager. 
Terrible situation to be in and a good way to take the club into a downward spiral over the next few years if we don’t get rid of him and employ someone who can rebuild. 
I would not trust Ruud to rebuild as he’s shown himself to be one of the worst premier managers of all time. 
I get we may as well keep him for rest of season but he has to go as soon as last game is played. 
 

[everton carr]

10 hours ago, Finn Claw II said:

Interesting to see if he walks at the end of the season.  I suspect he will as unless Rudkin can move about 15-20 players on, we’ll have another season with most of this squad before the big rebuild.

 

in hindsight not getting promoted and being forced to clear the squad would have been a blessing in disguise.  
 

I’d almost welcome a transfer ban at this point to stop us wasting money 

He won't walk unless he gets a decent pay off

[Fox92]

14 hours ago, CrispinLA in Texas said:

I don't think the Ruud has clocked out like what Rogers did, I just think Ruud is just clueless on what to do, he really hasn't the managerial abilities.

Of course he hasn't got the abilities.

 

He's picked up 7 points for us in about 4 months and even in those we were largely battered by West Ham and Brighton. Then thankfully we played Tottenham when they practically had their whole first team out injured.

 

He has offered us absolutely nothing. Terrible appointment when we needed to get it exactly right.

 

I need not say more than 7 consecutive home games without scoring. How this isn't enough to get a manager sacked I will never know.

Edited 18 March by Fox92

[AjcW]

1 minute ago, Fox92 said:

Of course he hasn't got the abilities.

 

He's picked up 7 points for us in about 4 months and even in those we were largely battered by West Ham and Brighton. Then thankfully we played Tottenham when they practically had their whole first team out injured.

 

He has offered us absolutely nothing. Terrible appointment when we needed to get it exactly right.

Still did our best to mess up the Spurs game too  

[moore_94]

If we do sack him I expect it will be after we get wacked by Man City after the international break and have wasted the opportunity for someone else to get a good couple of weeks with the squad

 

Just like we did with Cooper

Edited 18 March by moore_94

[winteriscoming]

6 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

If we do sack him I expect it will be after we get wacked by Man City after the international break and have wasted the opportunity for someone else to get a good couple of weeks with the squad

 

Just like we did with Cooper

And with Rodgers.