Jeremy Monga

[HP1]

Average 25 year old championship journeymen players go for 10 million these days

[UniFox21]

24 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

No chance we hold out for £10m.

Highly doubtful, probably ends at somewhere in-between for the % we want. 

[South Shire Fox]

8-9 mil guarenteed and then 20 percent sell on clause should be bare minimum we are looking at

[RowlattsFox]

Sell on clauses 

Appearance bonuses

Plays for England

 

All these sorts of things need to be in the sale but Rudkin can't be arsed with any of that. 

[coolhandfox]

Sell on fee isn't enough.

 

If he goes on to be a Arsenal legend and plays for them for 10 years we get nothing.

 

Need to included clauses about apps, goals, caps, trophies won etc.  

[DezFox]

This will go to tribunal and we will get a lot less. Either do that or accept arsenals low ball offer. **** football.

Edited Thursday at 17:24 by DezFox

[dmayne7]

1 hour ago, DezFox said:

This will go to tribunal and we will get a lot less. Either do that or accept arsenals low ball offer. **** football.

It won't. He's signed a pro deal that kicks in, 2 weeks from now. If he tried to break that and moved to Arsenal, I suspect the club would be able to sue for an awful lot more than Arsenal will end up paying if they sign him legitimately

[Terraloon]

21 minutes ago, dmayne7 said:

It won't. He's signed a pro deal that kicks in, 2 weeks from now. If he tried to break that and moved to Arsenal, I suspect the club would be able to sue for an awful lot more than Arsenal will end up paying if they sign him legitimately

It’s no where near as straight forward as that.

 

He can agree to sign but can’t sign till 17 and even then his parents have to counter sign. 
 

What complicates this even further is that he can only sign if he isn’t in full time education which gets complex because he should be in either full time education or in effect on a scholarship agreement.

 

 

 

 

Edited Thursday at 19:13 by Terraloon

[Ric Flair]

3 hours ago, Terraloon said:

It’s no where near as straight forward as that.

 

He can agree to sign but can’t sign till 17 and even then his parents have to counter sign. 
 

What complicates this even further is that he can only sign if he isn’t in full time education which gets complex because he should be in either full time education or in effect on a scholarship agreement.

 

 

 

 

17 year olds sign pro deals regularly, Louis Page did last year. A 16 year old who has provisionally agreed to signing a pro deal when they turn 17 is yet to break that agreement, perhaps it could happen but there's plenty of obstacles to get over should it happen and to join another club.

[Terraloon]

8 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

17 year olds sign pro deals regularly, Louis Page did last year. A 16 year old who has provisionally agreed to signing a pro deal when they turn 17 is yet to break that agreement, perhaps it could happen but there's plenty of obstacles to get over should it happen and to join another club.

I believe there are several examples where a youngster has agreed to sign but changes their mind. The latest and perhaps highest profile Rio lad that walked out on Chelsea to go to Liverpool

[Ric Flair]

1 minute ago, Terraloon said:

I believe there are several examples where a youngster has agreed to sign but changes their mind. The latest and perhaps highest profile Rio lad that walked out on Chelsea to go to Liverpool

He joined them before he was 17 and then signed a pro deal. I don't recall him having agreed to a pro deal at Chelsea that kicked in the day he was to turn 17 and break that a few months before (he'd have had to notify Chelsea by the end of May that year as a scholar which Monga would have to have done the same) and that's if that still would be allowed given the agreement to the pro deal.

 

I suspect it's a grey area as you say but it's not happened yet in the circumstances we are with Monga. Anyway seems like it'll happen as a straight forward transfer next month.

[skolfoxes]

We have no bargaining power, I don't know how people can't see that.  Talk of 10M+ with a hefty sell on fee just isn't going to happen. We're desperate.

 

We need money through the door more than other teams need our players at this point, and currently we have less than a handful of somewhat desirable assets.

 

In the case of Monga we probably need to get rid before his professional contract kicks in and he's suddenly on an obscene amount each week.

 

It's sh1t, it hurts, but it's the reality of being a team with players on PL wages playing in L1.

[DezFox]

15 hours ago, dmayne7 said:

It won't. He's signed a pro deal that kicks in, 2 weeks from now. If he tried to break that and moved to Arsenal, I suspect the club would be able to sue for an awful lot more than Arsenal will end up paying if they sign him legitimately

I complety disagree. Football is there to favour the big 6, they will get a good deal and we will be screwed over. We all know it. 

[FrankieADZ]

2 minutes ago, skolfoxes said:

We have no bargaining power, I don't know how people can't see that.  Talk of 10M+ with a hefty sell on fee just isn't going to happen. We're desperate.

 

We need money through the door more than other teams need our players at this point, and currently we have less than a handful of somewhat desirable assets.

 

In the case of Monga we probably need to get rid before his professional contract kicks in and he's suddenly on an obscene amount each week.

 

It's sh1t, it hurts, but it's the reality of being a team with players on PL wages playing in L1.

if we was so "desperate" we would have accepted the £5mil that Arsenal offered correct?

but did we accept? nope

also we dont need to get "rid" of monga before his pro deal, as the deal hes on NOW turns into a pro one in a couple of weeks(and he wont be on obsecen amount either lol)

the club arent going to be low balled for monga, they want at least £10mil and a sell on clause, and thats what theyll more than likely get

 

youve clearly not looked deep into the whole monga stuff

[skolfoxes]

6 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

if we was so "desperate" we would have accepted the £5mil that Arsenal offered correct?

but did we accept? nope

also we dont need to get "rid" of monga before his pro deal, as the deal hes on NOW turns into a pro one in a couple of weeks(and he wont be on obsecen amount either lol)

the club arent going to be low balled for monga, they want at least £10mil and a sell on clause, and thats what theyll more than likely get

 

youve clearly not looked deep into the whole monga stuff

I can't say I've looked that deeply into it no, I'm just a fan offering my 2 cents on the internet.

 

I don't see how we can't be desperate, we've got several players making in excess of 10x the average L1 wages, and my understanding is that parachute payments are already committed to paying off the Macquarie loans, if that's the case I can't see how we're not struggling financially. Of course that doesn't mean that you need to accept the first offer, but it's early and Arsenal (or whoever is interested) won't need to get this done particularly quickly. I'm sure the offer is still on the table and the terms might change slightly, but they'll know we're in a pickle financially and their offers will reflect that, maybe we get a lower fee but more of it upfront. I'd love to be wrong and for it to get to over £10M with a sell on clause, but I just can't see it.

 

It won't be obscene by the usual standards we are used to, but I'd be willing to bet by League 1 standards it will be.

[hackneyfox]

1 hour ago, skolfoxes said:

We have no bargaining power, I don't know how people can't see that.  Talk of 10M+ with a hefty sell on fee just isn't going to happen. We're desperate.

 

We need money through the door more than other teams need our players at this point, and currently we have less than a handful of somewhat desirable assets.

 

In the case of Monga we probably need to get rid before his professional contract kicks in and he's suddenly on an obscene amount each week.

 

It's sh1t, it hurts, but it's the reality of being a team with players on PL wages playing in L1.

If six teams are in for him then we do have bargaining power.

[hackneyfox]

1 hour ago, skolfoxes said:

I can't say I've looked that deeply into it no, I'm just a fan offering my 2 cents on the internet.

 

Please don't, if you're 2 cents are quoted twice on here then it becomes a 'fact' and the we then getting 283 pages of the same people making the same point over and over and over and ............

[Pita]

On 25/06/2026 at 12:00, UniFox21 said:

Highly doubtful, probably ends at somewhere in-between for the % we want. 

Knowing Rudkin deals we will pay his wages for a couple of years 

[Clever Fox]

We should be concentrating on keeping our young talent and selling the players who got us into this mess in the first place.

 

That's were the effort should be going. They should be told to find another club for next season.

[FrankieADZ]

12 hours ago, skolfoxes said:

I can't say I've looked that deeply into it no, I'm just a fan offering my 2 cents on the internet.

 

I don't see how we can't be desperate, we've got several players making in excess of 10x the average L1 wages, and my understanding is that parachute payments are already committed to paying off the Macquarie loans, if that's the case I can't see how we're not struggling financially. Of course that doesn't mean that you need to accept the first offer, but it's early and Arsenal (or whoever is interested) won't need to get this done particularly quickly. I'm sure the offer is still on the table and the terms might change slightly, but they'll know we're in a pickle financially and their offers will reflect that, maybe we get a lower fee but more of it upfront. I'd love to be wrong and for it to get to over £10M with a sell on clause, but I just can't see it.

 

It won't be obscene by the usual standards we are used to, but I'd be willing to bet by League 1 standards it will be.

so kinda proved my point, if you just look around for a little bit youll see plenty of journos etc saying we want around £10mil with a sell on with most if not all the fee upfront

if we was SO desperate, we'd be accepting peanuts for the likes of fatawu now wouldnt we? but we arent, so that idea is completely out the window, also how would arsenal know all of our financial stuff? not even the fans know it down to the last penny so arsenal certainly wouldnt.

the club want 10mil and a sell on and theyll get it, as @hackneyfox has said, there are at least 6 clubs wanting him, so saying we arent in a good spot to haggle or get what we want is totally out the window isnt it

[scinnell]

2 hours ago, Clever Fox said:

We should be concentrating on keeping our young talent and selling the players who got us into this mess in the first place.

 

That's were the effort should be going. They should be told to find another club for next season.

Agree. The problem is most of the players who got us into this mess are worthless and if they have any interest, buying clubs would be put off when they see how much are paying them. 

[shailen]

This is why Arsenal dont get taken seriously in world football. Act like a big club and pay. We're not asking for £50m+

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

2 hours ago, shailen said:

This is why Arsenal dont get taken seriously in world football. Act like a big club and pay. We're not asking for £50m+

 

Other big clubs are of course famed for never low balling or haggling

[Brizzle Fox]

2 hours ago, shailen said:

This is why Arsenal dont get taken seriously in world football. Act like a big club and pay. We're not asking for £50m+

Sounds a bit like you're advocating the Jon Rudkin approach to negotiation there...

[em9999]

6 hours ago, shailen said:

This is why Arsenal dont get taken seriously in world football. Act like a big club and pay. We're not asking for £50m+

Arsenal are one of the biggest clubs in world football and act in a very financially sensible way its a shame our lot don't have the same sense and we might not be the club we have turned into 

 

 

Who the hell are we to criticise arsenal 

 

Have a word 

Edited Saturday at 14:48 by em9999