Ruud out - has to go

[l444ry]

Not experienced enough. No shame in that but losing three games at home 0-3 0-2 0-2 against Wolves, Palace and Fulham shows he is simply not good enough. Totally the wrong chap to rebuild this club when we get relegated.  

Edited 18 January by l444ry

[Basil Brush]

Back RVN 

[CosbehFox]

29 minutes ago, J. James said:

Oh, sorry l didn't realise you were there when he specifically asked for the players, guess it would have been down to Rudkin if it was lovely Ruud.

Players are not signed in todays world purely on a managers say so, those days are gone.

 

Strangely the next target after Cooper- Ayew is probably the main reason we have the paltry total of points we have!

 

But then l suppose thats down to luck.

 

As I've said before, Cooper was a mistake, sacking him a worse one and appointing the next Rooney a total disaster.

 

For me it's a FACT that no manager could keep us up with an inept owner and a DoF who is an agents dream, and that includes the hapless Cooper who has been and was always intended to be the fall guy.

It’s down to Rudkin as much as Cooper in the construction of the squad. It’s fine you argue what you want and not believe me but Cooper played a huge hand in our transfer business. 
 

Cooper at the very least was compliant to spending a huge part of the transfer budget on Oliver Skipp (Cooper signing - ex England youth links), he agreed on the loan of Edouard and pushed a lot for Ayew (which you know spending money on a 35 year old is a bit silly). 
 

Throw in some of Cooper’s behaviour behind the scenes. And you have a ****ing idiot who would eventually fail hired by another ****ing idiot not convinced of his appointment originally. 
 

You seemingly can’t disconnect that  Cooper was dogshit doesn’t mean folk think Ruud is any better. Just they can see Ruud doesn’t an available world class goalkeeper or a promising winger or a physical centre midfielder. And his budget to bring players in his severely limited because of Cooper’s choice of players.
 

Your final conclusion is correct though. 

Edited 18 January by CosbehFox

[coolhandfox]

We had a massive chance to rebuild after relegation, we give a 3 year contract to Vestergaard, 3 years to BDCR and spend 30m on Skipp and Ayew.

[Paninistickers]

3 minutes ago, Tanya said:

Rudkin oversaw our peak

At our peak, Champions and champions league football he oversaw; 

 

Bob Zieler,

 

Slimani for x3 his recommended value

 

Mendy who looked like kante to replace kante

 

and an unknown Spanish full back with a long throw. 

[Buzzell]

People calling for Ruud’s head yet he hasn’t got his own back room staff in, got a shit load of players that aren’t up for the fight and isn’t being backed properly by the board. He cannot win.

[UniFox21]

Cant tell if the fat twat is refering to Rudkin being the issue or calling fans the issue

 

 

[cityfanlee23]

1 minute ago, Buzzell said:

People calling for Ruud’s head yet he hasn’t got his own back room staff in, got a shit load of players that aren’t up for the fight and isn’t being backed properly by the board. He cannot win.

Genuinely curious case this one, why? why is he not camped outside of Tops office screaming about this? 
Seems to me like he's happy with the staff and doesn't want to bring in his own. 

[CosbehFox]

3 minutes ago, cityfanlee23 said:

Genuinely curious case this one, why? why is he not camped outside of Tops office screaming about this? 
Seems to me like he's happy with the staff and doesn't want to bring in his own. 

Part of me suspects that as the club already shelled out a fair on compo for various coaches this yesr, they don’t want to spend more 

[Pliskin]

4 minutes ago, UniFox21 said:

Cant tell if the fat twat is refering to Rudkin being the issue or calling fans the issue

 

 

The wider world don’t think any clubs have issues unless Mike Ashley has been there.

[lcfcbluearmy]

11 minutes ago, Tanya said:

Rudkin oversaw our peak but under his tenure he has consigned us back being a yoyo club (at best). He must be held accountable.

Let's be honest Rudkin didn't come in as DOF until December 2014 at which point he had Steve Walsh as head of recruitment and effectively acting as DOF. Walsh built an amazing scouting and recruitment team and left because we wouldn't give him the promotion to DOF that he deserved. Since he left in 2016 and Rudkin took over our recruitment has effectively been useless since. Rudkin didn't oversee our success he just rode the wave built by others and is now being royally found out

[cityfanlee23]

Just now, CosbehFox said:

Part of me suspects that as the club already shelled out a fair on compo for various coaches this yesr, they don’t want to spend more 

You may be right, but that concerns me even more then, either Ruud is happy with the staff we have, he isn't happy but is too weak to force anything. Or possibly he's been deceived by us. 

[Fox92]

15 minutes ago, Buzzell said:

People calling for Ruud’s head yet he hasn’t got his own back room staff in, got a shit load of players that aren’t up for the fight and isn’t being backed properly by the board. He cannot win.

Cooper had a load of shit players but won us points and didn’t go 7 games without a win.

 

We’ve had two bad managers this season. A better manager would not have us losing 7 games in a row.

 

I have never seen a bad manager  defended so much on here.

Edited 18 January by Fox92

[splinterdream]

15 minutes ago, UniFox21 said:

Cant tell if the fat twat is refering to Rudkin being the issue or calling fans the issue

 

 

It's the players he's reffering to.

[splinterdream]

1 minute ago, Fox92 said:

Cooper had a load of shit players but won us points and didn’t go 7 games without a win.

 

We’ve had two bad managers this season. A better manager would not have us losing 7 games in a row.

 

I have never seen a bad manager  defended so much on here.

We have 4 first teamers out, Hermanson making worldie save after worldie save, if you're criticising the manager, what do you think he's getting wrong?

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

18 minutes ago, Buzzell said:

People calling for Ruud’s head yet he hasn’t got his own back room staff in, got a shit load of players that aren’t up for the fight and isn’t being backed properly by the board. He cannot win.

Apart from the West Ham game, you're right. 

[Danno]

Just now, splinterdream said:

We have 4 first teamers out, Hermanson making worldie save after worldie save, if you're criticising the manager, what do you think he's getting wrong?

Maybe 6 losses in a row and barely having a shot on target, not sure actually, hmmm

[J. James]

6 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

It’s down to Rudkin as much as Cooper in the construction of the squad. It’s fine you argue what you want and not believe me but Cooper played a huge hand in our transfer business. 
 

Cooper at the very least was compliant to spending a huge part of the transfer budget on Oliver Skipp (Cooper signing - ex England youth links), he agreed on the loan of Edouard and pushed a lot for Ayew (which you know spending money on a 35 year old is a bit silly). 
 

Throw in some of Cooper’s behaviour behind the scenes. And you have a ****ing idiot who would eventually fail hired by another ****ing idiot not convinced of his appointment originally. 
 

You seemingly can’t disconnect that  Cooper was dogshit doesn’t mean folk think Ruud is any better. Just they can see Ruud doesn’t an available world class goalkeeper or a promising winger or a physical centre midfielder. And his budget to bring players in his severely limited because of Cooper’s choice of players.
 

Your final conclusion is correct though. 

Oh, don't get me wrong (as lots do) l dont think Cooper was anything but crap, but maybe just maybe he saw that our squad was crapper (when lots on here were touting mid table), and realised he had to play the way he did because of the limitations.

The fact that our talentless players were actively working against him is l think unforgivable and their only defence would have been an immediate improvement in performances, this has clearly not happened and l can only see them as snakes I'm afraid.

 

I was hoping for a more ambitious appointment and was dismayed when Cooper was announced.

But his remit was keep us out of the relegation zone and he did by whatever means  - luck?

The great Gary Player was called lucky "yep" he said " and the more I practice the luckier l get "

So, l found his sacking at that particular time puzzling, but all was explained when it was explained that our owner had a serious crush on handsome though unproven, untested Ruud.

 

I also really hate bullying, victimisation and double standards all of which has been in evidence recently in only now placing the blame on the real culprits when frankly its been them all along.

 

It's often said that a man is only three bad decisions away from living on the street, in business the street is bankruptcy and our owner has made catastrophically bad decisions- Rodgers - too late, Cooper - wrong man, Van Nistelrooy - appointed on a whim.

 

The next few weeks will define this club for years if not decades to come.

 

[Trumpet]

Feels like we’ve got this in the dugout tbf

 

 

[Saxondale]

Yeah, just change the manager every few weeks, why not?

[Zear0]

25 minutes ago, UniFox21 said:

Cant tell if the fat twat is refering to Rudkin being the issue or calling fans the issue

 

 

The fact you can't tell if it's aimed at the players, manager, coachers, leadership, catering staff and owner says it all.

[splinterdream]

Just now, Danno said:

Maybe 6 losses in a row and barely having a shot on target, not sure actually, hmmm

mavididi is dog muck, buonnonate is not good enough, McAteer is not good enough, Vardy is 38 and is now clearly not PL level. We haven't got the players, we haven't got the funds to buy anymore. When Soumare is your best player in a game, you're in trouble, and we are, we're playing without a RW, LW is rubbish, bilal runs around and works well but doesn't create, Ayew looks as if he isn't interested. Our only hope is there's some funds we don't know about, we pull out some gems like Huth/Albrighton/Fuchs and we go on a run, but it's very unlikely

[Ricey]

Just a reminder that any replacement will be from the usual, unimaginative pool. Either that or they will give Brian Barry-Murphy a shot.

[Buzzell]

12 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Cooper had a load of shit players but won us points and didn’t go 7 games without a win.

 

We’ve had two bad managers this season. A better manager would not have us losing 7 games in a row.

 

I have never seen a bad manager  defended so much on here.

Did he also have four first team players out injured? Cooper had a full fit team and we was still shit.

[Whys it always me]

28 minutes ago, Buzzell said:

People calling for Ruud’s head yet he hasn’t got his own back room staff in, got a shit load of players that aren’t up for the fight and isn’t being backed properly by the board. He cannot win.

I don’t understand how you can defend him. Lost 7 league games on the spin made us look a worse side than we were under cooper. Despite injuries and everything everyone else is spouting the vast majority of the fans would not have picked that starting line up and the subs were beyond a joke. Stop trying to defend him. He’s a shambles the board are a shambles as is the club. I feel sorry for him as he should never have been put in this situation he hasn’t got the skills or experience for this shit show.