How long have we been on a downward trajectory?

[MattFox]

3 hours ago, Samilktray said:

The weird unprovoked Spurs posts are quite tiresome imho

The Spurs “rivalry “ is peak KPFC

 

Was funny for about 2 years and now is just a little sad

[Freeman's Wharfer]

Real argument for it being when the likes of Simpson, Okazaki and Fuchs left the club.

 

Rodgers talked about bringing ‘winners’ in and I thought he’d seen that the mentality had been lost as those lot departed. His response to that was to sign Daka and Soumare who were only winners in the sense of being from successful teams in sub par leagues.

 

What we really needed were the likes of Milner, Dawson & Lallana. Uninspiring but solid professionals.

 

Whilst overseeing many declines, one of the worst Rodgers was culpable for was the decline in grit and know-how amongst the squad. Nice boys playing pretty football landed us right in it.

[whetstonefox]

The Villa league cup semi defeat was when i was first slightly concerned but no one could’ve have forecast the drop we have had 

[hackneyfox]

2 minutes ago, MattFox said:

The Spurs “rivalry “ is peak KPFC

 

Was funny for about 2 years and now is just a little sad

You may think so, I'm surrounded by the ****ers. Some Totteringham fan was giving shite to some Arsenal fans on the overground following the recent Derby. I'd had a few, couldn't help myself, burst into a rendition of third in a two horse race, ended up with a coach load of Arsenal fans joining in. Totteringham fan was calling me a Leicester caant, made my day.

[Tielemans63]

That match away at Bournemouth was the moment for me personally.  That was the moment I thought we might be in trouble here. There was something about that second half implosion that suggested there might be deeper problems.

Edited 12 February by Tielemans63

[The Year Of The Fox]

3 hours ago, Nolucklcfc said:

The forest cup game was the one. Rodgers for all his shite was spot on about that squad. Never forgive any of them for what followed. 

He wasn’t at all

 

Precisely the same players PLUS additional players HE signed that summer had just won the FA Cup and finished 8th in the league. 
 

He was the one who needed to go 
 

 

My answer

 

Writing was on the wall at Warsaw away

Edited 12 February by The Year Of The Fox

[Nolucklcfc]

2 minutes ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

He wasn’t at all

 

Precisely the same players PLUS additional players he signed that summer had just won the FA Cup and finished 8th in the league. 
 

 

My answer

 

Writing was on the wall at Warsaw away

Not doubting the quality they had but they lost all hunger to play for the club. I don’t like Rodgers but he’s not solely responsible for that. 

[bovril]

In the league, it was a gentle downward trajectory from about December 2019. Then a steep one from summer 2021.

 

Obviously the FA Cup win was wonderful but the nature of that competition means you can win it without necessarily being a very upwardly mobile club; see also Manchester United 2024. 

[The Year Of The Fox]

7 minutes ago, Nolucklcfc said:

Not doubting the quality they had but they lost all hunger to play for the club. I don’t like Rodgers but he’s not solely responsible for that. 

 

7 minutes ago, Nolucklcfc said:

Not doubting the quality they had but they lost all hunger to play for the club. I don’t like Rodgers but he’s not solely responsible for that. 

I don’t disagree with the hunger comment. Feel like a new manager would’ve created more hunger though. A ‘refresh’ 

[Spudulike]

Perhaps the helicopter crash was the start.

[jayfox26]

3 hours ago, Nolucklcfc said:

The forest cup game was the one. Rodgers for all his shite was spot on about that squad. Never forgive any of them for what followed. 

Yes but Rodgers and his mate Congerton were to blame for the shite squad. He inherited a really good squad from Puel then brought his mate Congerton in as head of recruitment and a good squad became a poor one within a few transfer windows. The people at the top are mainly responsible for where we are but Rodgers is a huge part of why we are where we are. 

[Nolucklcfc]

6 minutes ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

 

I don’t disagree with the hunger comment. Feel like a new manager would’ve created more hunger though. A ‘refresh’ 

Possibly yeah. We needed to have sacked him after the spurs 6-2 game to give ourselves a chance. 

[CrispinLA in Texas]

4 hours ago, Haywood_6 said:

The protests organised this weekend have really made me reflect. If an outsider or the press were to ask why are you protesting? what would most Leicester fan's actually say

 

It feels like things have been going downhill for us since about the start of 2022 for me. The game that really sticks in my mind is the 3-2 home loss to Spurs. We let in two goals in injury time and just a month later, we were thrashed 4-1 by Forest in another humiliating loss. I remember Rodgers saying the squad needed a refresh and some players had better contracts perhaps had lost their hunger. Since then the club’s decision making has been amateur to say the least (aside from last season where Enzo did manage to get our act together at a lower level). Letting hundreds of millions in talent walk away on free's. Being close to breaching PSR. A transfer strategy that no one can make sense of. And what do we hear from the club? Nothing but complete silence, fans just expected to cheerlead the team on and never question anything. And almost certain relegation for the second time in three years. It really does make you feel disillusioned. 

 

So what would you actually say?

Really good topic 👍🏼

[foxy boxing]

Since letting Kante go after one season!.

[urban.spaceman]

April 18th 2021.

[bovril]

Maybe the seeds of our current demise were sown then, but I don't think you can truly say we were on a downward slope before summer 2021. I believe those two Covid interrupted seasons are the highest average finishes over two consecutive campaigns in our entire history.

[Corky]

37 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

April 18th 2021.

When we won the semi final!?

[bovril]

10 minutes ago, Corky said:

When we won the semi final!?

He stormed out of Wembley the next month and nobody told him Chilwell's goal was disallowed. 

[jayfox26]

57 minutes ago, foxy boxing said:

Since letting Kante go after one season!.

We didn't let him go, we had no choice as he had a release clause

[jayfox26]

Pearson built us then Ranieri fine tuned us and did the unthinkable.

 

Things sadly went south under Ranieri, and he wasn't helped by some really poor transfers the summer after we won the league.

 

Shakespeare took over and things didn't improve and we only started to see improvements (in the squad at least) when Puel came in. Whilst many didn't like Puel, he was similar to Pearson in that he built us a really good squad and Rodgers was then able to benefit from this. 

 

Rodgers saw initial success using Puels squad, similar to how Ranieri did with Pearsons squad, but then once his mate Congerton got his dirty hands on our transfer dealings, things went bad again and even worse than we could possibly imagine with a ridiculous relegation. 

 

Things looked up again with Maresca last season and then went tits up again once he left and we appointed Cooper. 

 

Bottom line is, poor decision making at key times by our board have lead to this. 

 

-Rodgers should have been sacked earlier. 

-Congerton should have not been allowed anywhere near this club. 

-Cooper shouldn't have been appointed.

-Ruud shouldn't have been appointed. 

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[Iwebema]

There was already a thread on when people believed it went wrong.

 

I think @moore_94 (sorry if it wasn't you) posted a long list of inexplicably stupid things that we've done in terms of purchases, contracts and sales. Which in isolation obviously happen, but collectively look appalling.

 

I think when you mix that in with the worst relegation in history. The zero accountability for it. The owner telling the fans they have no right to complain. 3 managers in a row lied to about money. Breaching FFP twice but finding loopholes. The dodgy as hell sponsor thats now been called out. The owner putting his face on the programme when Shakey died. The club actively stopped the fans organising anything, didn't they block a mental health awareness display? Or something similar.

 

There's probably more, that was just off the top of my head. Again in isolation sometimes things happen and clubs get it wrong, but there's just a huge ever growing list of "Did we really do that?" it's becoming really hard to argue we are well run and every year we get further away from 2016 and ever year using that as a stick to beat annoyed fans with loses its effectiveness

 

Edited 12 February by Iwebema

[smudgerfox]

I think the Forest cup game. Defending the trophy. Lower division local rivals. And nothing. As lackadaisical performance as you'll ever see. 

Also I'm pretty sure Brendan slagged the squad BEFORE the match. To say what he said after  the match beggars belief  but to say it before was suicidal. His comments are regularly reported as a reaction to the performance and result. But I'm not sure that's right. 

Happy to be corrected on that one. 

[Poznan34]

8 December 2019 - Rodgers new contract, we then won 1-4 at Villa the next game (our 8th league win in a row!), then after that it was downhill - 0-4 Liverpool Boxing Day, the Ryan Bennett January, Carabao semi vs Villa, then Covid and the rest is history. Fairly slow decline however until summer 2021 (Cup win in that time of course, masking problems) then it's the summer we "go for it" with Soumare/Vestergaard/Daka but Rodgers has gone stale, pain ensues. 

[dannythefox]

The club in general about the last 4 seasons but this season it didn’t start well under cooper, a disaster appointment which most people knew about.

[Nods]

Around the time of that 2021 West Ham game in the run-in for UCL qualification. 

 

Maddison broke COVID rules and was left out of the squad and tipped up at a golf club instead. We lost 3-2 in a game we didn't show up for until the last 20 minutes, by which point we were 3-0 down.

 

Signalled the end of us acting as a serious football club. Everything has felt unprofessional since that moment, and it signalled the beginning of the end of our challenge that season.

 

It has only gone downhill from there, felt like that squad and management never recovered mentally from bottling it for the second consecutive year. We just about managed to find another win or two to clinch an FA Cup, but it was clear we were in freefall by then.

 

Meanwhile the state of affairs off the pitch since then, as has been documented at length, has only gotten more stale since. 

 

Whether we gave up when the Rodgers love-in died or our owner and his staff somehow grew more stupid, I'm not sure.

Edited 12 February by Nods