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Just now, AKCJ said:

I don't think Ruud is good enough but what is the end result we hope to achieve by sacking him?

 

The new manager still has Ayew, BDCR, Mavididi or Buonanotte to choose from as wingers. Justin, Coulibaly, Kristiansen or Thomas for fullbacks. Vardy, Edouard or Daka up front. Okoli, Vestergaard, Faes or Coady at centre half. Soumare, Winks, Skipp or Ndidi in midfield etc etc etc.

 

 

The squad is diabolical. It is a million miles away from even the bare minimum needed to compete in this division.

 

Sacking Ruud does nothing but cost us money. We are going down, the club made that decision in January.

"We are going down, the club made that decision in January"

 

That implies there is some football knowledge within the club management.  I doubt it!

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He accepted that first half performance by not making any subs. 
he accepted the absolutely pathetic performance of Vestergard and only removed him at the end 

He made a farcical sub with 5 mins left to put some energy up front 

I did feel sorry for him initially but he’s either inept or in a mission to prove a point to this board 

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4 minutes ago, dylanlegend said:

Cant afford to go down either. Ruud surely isnt on that much….. oh wait i forgot Jon Rudkin

Reality is we are already down.  We are like a chopper trying to compete in the toure de france.

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Just now, deep blue said:

 

But can you endure game after game like this till the end of the season?

It's tough but I struggle to get that angry at players who simply aren't good enough at this level. Too many short term decisions have left us in this position. Let Ruud take the fall for the rest of the season while planning wholesale changes in the summer

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Just now, jayfox26 said:

When you play a formation and tactics that don't suit the players you have and keep doing this over and over despite it clearly not working, you're not exactly helping to get the best out of the players. 

But I we all knew that the defence we had in the championship wasn't good enough for the premier last season. They all playing in the position they meant to be, so when you got players that can't defend at this level , that means that the players in front of them can't do their job effectively, cause you spending most of your game helping out players that can't do their job properly in the first place. That is the true reality of this season. If someone I had the sense of get a couple of decent central defenders at the start of the season we might have had a chance but no we bought players we didn't need in midfield and attack !!!!

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43 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

Probably the worst back to back managerial hires of my lifetime? 

Some might say Hamilton/Pleat, or Taylor/Bassett. But as some said Allen/Megson and Megson/Holloway were hard to beat. Cooper/Ruud has to be up there though.

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1 minute ago, inckley fox said:

Some might say Hamilton/Pleat, or Taylor/Bassett. But as some said Allen/Megson and Megson/Holloway were hard to beat. Cooper/Ruud has to be up there though.

Some great combinations. 11 games to go before we cant start a new one! 

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4 minutes ago, Glasgow fox said:

Reality is we are already down.  We are like a chopper trying to compete in the toure de france.

I like the analogy but in that scenario I would want someone trying to pedal like fvck, not messing around with putting a different bell on the handlebars. 

 

 

*Ive had a lot of wine

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1 minute ago, hebangsthedrums said:

I like the analogy but in that scenario I would want someone trying to pedal like fvck, not messing around with putting a different bell on the handlebars. 

 

 

*Ive had a lot of wine

Totally agree mate but we also have a puncture in both tyres

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Apparently RVM was Top’s choice. His failure in management has led to a complete disengagement with both the teams and the fans. Perhaps best to introduce another more competent member of the family.

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7 minutes ago, southfox66 said:

But I we all knew that the defence we had in the championship wasn't good enough for the premier last season. They all playing in the position they meant to be, so when you got players that can't defend at this level , that means that the players in front of them can't do their job effectively, cause you spending most of your game helping out players that can't do their job properly in the first place. That is the true reality of this season. If someone I had the sense of get a couple of decent central defenders at the start of the season we might have had a chance but no we bought players we didn't need in midfield and attack !!!!

I'm not disagreeing with you, the players are shite. But so are Wolves and so are Ipswich. It's just poor that Ruud hasn't attempted to change anything tactically or formation or anything. Evertons players are crap and were losing most weeks under Dyche but now are winning under Moyes with the same players. I'm not suggesting we will stay up if we sack him but I'd just like to see a bit of fight and passion. The players are guilty but we need a manager that can at least get them doing the basics.

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In his defense he was expecting to be able to bring in players in January, he said needed them, he said that the players are not good enough, so he basically been let down on all fronts, he been sold a lie to come to this club.

 

On that basis would you be bothered, he probably hopes the club do sack him so he get a pay off and escape this nightmare 😂 😂 🤣 

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The players aren't good enough. But you expect greater motivation to be shown from them and greater tactical ideas. Ruud is getting neither across to them.

 

Has to go

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20 minutes ago, fox in the sox said:

He thinks we’ll be fine if we can perform like the second half for 90 minutes. 😭 

Really?

West Ham barely tried first half, they made even less effort 2nd half. Same with Brentford

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2 minutes ago, jayfox26 said:

I'm not disagreeing with you, the players are shite. But so are Wolves and so are Ipswich. It's just poor that Ruud hasn't attempted to change anything tactically or formation or anything. Evertons players are crap and were losing most weeks under Dyche but now are winning under Moyes with the same players. I'm not suggesting we will stay up if we sack him but I'd just like to see a bit of fight and passion. The players are guilty but we need a manager that can at least get them doing the basics.

I agree, I dont think anyone can keep us up because we have a bad squad and a lot of bad eggs, but you can see from his post match interview there's nothing left for him here.

 

Any players that do fancy it will be turning to him and seeing him almost shrugg his shoulders and say "I can't do anything else for you"

 

This is now more about next season in the championship and the plan because he can't carry on here, the team epitomises their manager, and this team has given up like him which there's no coming back from.

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There's a lot going on at the club that are not Ruuds fault but he clearly hasn't anything about him as a manager to get the team out of the mess it's in. 

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