Next Manager

[LVFox]

9 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

Please don’t. 
I think Rohl will end up at Southampton. 
I hope we get Roseinor but I can’t see us paying the compensation and him wanting to come if Strasbourg get in Europe. 

Agree on Rohl at Saints.

 

I unfortunately do think we end up with Martin. Cannot see Rosenoir leaving Strasbourg, especially with their links to Chelsea, think he's more likely to end up there than with us!

 

Don't know why, but I've always imagined us going for a "big ex-player" so I wouldn't be shocked to see Gerrard linked to us.

[winteriscoming]

5 minutes ago, LVFox said:

Agree on Rohl at Saints.

 

I unfortunately do think we end up with Martin. Cannot see Rosenoir leaving Strasbourg, especially with their links to Chelsea, think he's more likely to end up there than with us!

 

Don't know why, but I've always imagined us going for a "big ex-player" so I wouldn't be shocked to see Gerrard linked to us.

It would just be us to learn nothing from the disaster of hiring a big name RVN and then go and get Gerrard. 
My preference is an experienced manager like Urs Fischer but we won’t even consider someone like him. 

[LVFox]

22 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

It would just be us to learn nothing from the disaster of hiring a big name RVN and then go and get Gerrard. 
My preference is an experienced manager like Urs Fischer but we won’t even consider someone like him. 

Fischer would have been smart for this season, but his Union Berlin side weren't exactly easy on the eye, would worry about his ability to break down championship sides. A good coach no doubt though.

 

I think we probably go slightly down the Enzo path again, but without being too wedded to a philosophy of playing style. I don't encourage it at all, but could easily see Top wanting to make the call on this one again and going for a big names assistant in Pep Lijnders. 

 

There are so many routes we could go down, but I still wouldn't be shocked either if Ruud is given a go

[kingfox]

The Championship is either littered with Championship experienced managers or up-and-comers. 
 

We’ll probably divert to one of those ways again. 
 

Rosenior strikes the perfect balance of having Championship experience, but is also an up-and-comer when it comes to management. Those currently out of work with Championship experience are just so uninspiring, going after someone like Rosenior, Röhl, Manning, Cleverley, would be a little more uplifting. 
 

You can either go the assistant route again like we did with Maresca. Supposedly we had interest in Davide Ancelotti in the summer, while Carlos Cuesta(Arsenal), Johnny Heitinga(Liverpool) and Rene Maric(Bayern Munich) have all been linked to Championship clubs in the past year. 
 

Going down the overseas route like some Championship clubs have, those out of work atm you’re probably looking at a pool of Philippe Clement, Brian Priske, Mark Van Bommel, Bo Svensson. The thought of Clement scares me as much as the thought of Russell Martin, but I think someone like Brian Priske would be a solid option. 
 

Those in work, I’m quite surprised Kjetil Knutsen and Henrik Rydstrom haven’t moved clubs yet, but age wise they certainly don’t come in the up-and-coming bracket. An obscure name of Adrian Siemieniec at Jagiellonia Bialystok in Poland intrigues me, he has done a phenomenal job, but he is probably too obscure for Leicester City. 
 

 

[AjcW]

4 minutes ago, kingfox said:

The Championship is either littered with Championship experienced managers or up-and-comers. 
 

We’ll probably divert to one of those ways again. 
 

Rosenior strikes the perfect balance of having Championship experience, but is also an up-and-comer when it comes to management. Those currently out of work with Championship experience are just so uninspiring, going after someone like Rosenior, Röhl, Manning, Cleverley, would be a little more uplifting. 
 

You can either go the assistant route again like we did with Maresca. Supposedly we had interest in Davide Ancelotti in the summer, while Carlos Cuesta(Arsenal), Johnny Heitinga(Liverpool) and Rene Maric(Bayern Munich) have all been linked to Championship clubs in the past year. 
 

Going down the overseas route like some Championship clubs have, those out of work atm you’re probably looking at a pool of Philippe Clement, Brian Priske, Mark Van Bommel, Bo Svensson. The thought of Clement scares me as much as the thought of Russell Martin, but I think someone like Brian Priske would be a solid option. 
 

Those in work, I’m quite surprised Kjetil Knutsen and Henrik Rydstrom haven’t moved clubs yet, but age wise they certainly don’t come in the up-and-coming bracket. An obscure name of Adrian Siemieniec at Jagiellonia Bialystok in Poland intrigues me, he has done a phenomenal job, but he is probably too obscure for Leicester City. 
 

 

Heitinga is one I mentioned post Maresca, didn't bring him into the picture post Cooper as he'd moved to be with Slot.

 

He's an interesting one because he was interim manager at Ajax during their absolute basket case phase and ended up with an incredible record. They went from fans rioting to settled down and winning nearly every week during his time there. 

 

I thought the move to West Ham was weird but guess it was just the Moyes connection at the time.

 

Also like the fact he's a defender, so yes he'll probably come with pretty standard dutch approach, but you'd like to think he'd know how to organise a defence.... he's a hard bastard too! 

[sylofox]

3 hours ago, ClaphamFox said:

I don't know. Occasionally the club succeeds in pulling a good managerial appointment out of the back, though it seems to come down more to luck than judgment. Hopefully it will be one of those lucky ones. However, I'd say that there's more chance of RVN staying than either Russell Martin or Gary O'Neil being offered the job.

Agreed. I don't see RVN going until Xmas.

 

Even Top and Rudkin must be aware he had nothing and they added nothing to help him.

 

RVN is not great but could anyone do anything with this bunch of gutless bottle jobs we have for a squad.

[kingfox]

58 minutes ago, AjcW said:

Heitinga is one I mentioned post Maresca, didn't bring him into the picture post Cooper as he'd moved to be with Slot.

 

He's an interesting one because he was interim manager at Ajax during their absolute basket case phase and ended up with an incredible record. They went from fans rioting to settled down and winning nearly every week during his time there. 

 

I thought the move to West Ham was weird but guess it was just the Moyes connection at the time.

 

Also like the fact he's a defender, so yes he'll probably come with pretty standard dutch approach, but you'd like to think he'd know how to organise a defence.... he's a hard bastard too! 

Looked at Heitinga myself around the same period and mentioned him a few times on here. 
 

After delving into his period at Ajax, there were similarities to what Maresca produced with us, in terms of transition I thought he was a name that made sense, but experience wise I wasn’t surprised that we didn’t go for someone like him. 
 

Looking highly likely at being back in the Championship though, he fits the profile that a Championship club may take a chance on. 
 

He’s worked under some quality managers, whether with us or elsewhere, I think he gets an opportunity in the not too distant future. 

[AjcW]

3 minutes ago, kingfox said:

but experience wise I wasn’t surprised that we didn’t go for someone like him. 
 

 

On reflection, bit of a mad point this, given Ruud only has an extra half seasons experience than him with essentially the same managerial record  

[kingfox]

1 minute ago, AjcW said:

On reflection, bit of a mad point this, given Ruud only has an extra half seasons experience than him with essentially the same managerial record  

In the summer, they probably wanted someone with a bit more experience, hence Potter being first choice, but turning to Cooper instead. RVN was probably on the radar in the summer, but they probably felt it wasn’t the right time. 
 

His interim spell at Man Utd with two wins against us clearly gave Top a hard on, so that’s probably why we turned to him in the end. 

[LVFox]

3 minutes ago, kingfox said:

In the summer, they probably wanted someone with a bit more experience, hence Potter being first choice, but turning to Cooper instead. RVN was probably on the radar in the summer, but they probably felt it wasn’t the right time. 
 

His interim spell at Man Utd with two wins against us clearly gave Top a hard on, so that’s probably why we turned to him in the end. 

I don't think Ruud entered our thoughts in the summer. We were completely turned by two cup wins against us.

[ClaphamFox]

6 minutes ago, LVFox said:

I don't think Ruud entered our thoughts in the summer. We were completely turned by two cup wins against us.

There were numerous media reports last May/June that we were considering RVN after Maresca left. 

Edited 28 March by ClaphamFox

[Guy]

4 hours ago, SafewayFox said:

Is that a gut feeling mate?!

 

The thought of Ruud here for pre-season fills me with all sorts of genuine worry for our short term future.

 

 

I still think Ruud is trying to get back to Man United in some way, shape or form and in some coaching capacity in the not too distant future and was hoping to build up his stock/managerial reputation whilst here as a stopgap and then go back there to prove his worth. However he's not done it a lot of good with his disastrous record here to date of course!!

[Tommy Fresh]

1 hour ago, kingfox said:

The Championship is either littered with Championship experienced managers or up-and-comers. 
 

We’ll probably divert to one of those ways again. 
 

Rosenior strikes the perfect balance of having Championship experience, but is also an up-and-comer when it comes to management. Those currently out of work with Championship experience are just so uninspiring, going after someone like Rosenior, Röhl, Manning, Cleverley, would be a little more uplifting. 
 

You can either go the assistant route again like we did with Maresca. Supposedly we had interest in Davide Ancelotti in the summer, while Carlos Cuesta(Arsenal), Johnny Heitinga(Liverpool) and Rene Maric(Bayern Munich) have all been linked to Championship clubs in the past year. 
 

Going down the overseas route like some Championship clubs have, those out of work atm you’re probably looking at a pool of Philippe Clement, Brian Priske, Mark Van Bommel, Bo Svensson. The thought of Clement scares me as much as the thought of Russell Martin, but I think someone like Brian Priske would be a solid option. 
 

Those in work, I’m quite surprised Kjetil Knutsen and Henrik Rydstrom haven’t moved clubs yet, but age wise they certainly don’t come in the up-and-coming bracket. An obscure name of Adrian Siemieniec at Jagiellonia Bialystok in Poland intrigues me, he has done a phenomenal job, but he is probably too obscure for Leicester City. 
 

 

Mentioned him to you and Ric a few weeks back but the more I read about Alessio Lisci the more I want the bloke here. As with your last shout probably too obscure for us, he also seems to play a far too chaotic brand of football for our lot to be interested.

 

He said this after they beat someone earlier in the season "We tried to push them to their limits and make them uncomfortable." How refreshing would it be to actually hear a manager who wants to get at teams. Not like Ruud who's quite clearly scared of everyone in the league.

Edited 28 March by Tommy Fresh

[RowlattsFox]

I think they would like to give Ruud a go in the Championship but I don't know how he could continue with this sort of form and not be sacked. He would have to show something in the last few games to even remotely get the fans on board

Edited 28 March by RowlattsFox

[Sol thewall Bamba]

17 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said:

I think they would like to give Ruud a go in the Championship but I don't know how he could continue with this sort of form and not be sacked. He would have to show something in the last few games to even remotely get the fans on board

I'd be happy if it was a very aggressive target IE like 10/12 points from the first 5 games or you're out kind of thing. 

 

Issue is, giving him the full pre season is a massive risk because he has shown absolutely zero ability to set the team up properly, find the right formation/starting XI, or improve any of our players in any way. That's pretty impossible to look past. 

[kingfox]

1 hour ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Mentioned him to you and Ric a few weeks back but the more I read about Alessio Lisci the more I want the bloke here. As with your last shout probably too obscure for us, he also seems to play a far too chaotic brand of football for our lot to be interested.

 

He said this after they beat someone earlier in the season "We tried to push them to their limits and make them uncomfortable." How refreshing would it be to actually hear a manager who wants to get at teams. Not like Ruud who's quite clearly scared of everyone in the league.

There’s a few scattered across Europe that fit the Lisci, Siemieniec obscure mould, but I’m just not sure we’ll cast our net that wide. 
 

Part of me thinks we’ll play it boringly safe this time around, especially seeing what Farke, Wilder and Parker are doing this season. 
 

But I hope we go a bit fresher and look along the lines of Rosenior, Rohl, Manning, Cleverley, Mousinho. Those names come with potential and upside. 

[Gazza M]

1 hour ago, RowlattsFox said:

I think they would like to give Ruud a go in the Championship but I don't know how he could continue with this sort of form and not be sacked. He would have to show something in the last few games to even remotely get the fans on board

Let's not go there. He is totally incompetent. Likely to be something like 19 losses out of 20 with no goals scored at home again if we keep him until relegated. The sooner he is gone the better in my opinion. 

[Brizzle Fox]

24 minutes ago, kingfox said:

There’s a few scattered across Europe that fit the Lisci, Siemieniec obscure mould, but I’m just not sure we’ll cast our net that wide. 
 

Part of me thinks we’ll play it boringly safe this time around, especially seeing what Farke, Wilder and Parker are doing this season. 
 

But I hope we go a bit fresher and look along the lines of Rosenior, Rohl, Manning, Cleverley, Mousinho. Those names come with potential and upside. 

Manning fits the mini-Pep mind numbingly boring pass sideways, backwards, sideways, backwards ad infinitum approach to football, which our owner / DoF seem obsessed by.

He's also as boring when interviewed as his football is to watch.

Right up our strasse I'd suggest.

[kingfox]

I see Lisci is actually a Wasserman client @Tommy Fresh

 

He’ll definitely be on the list alongside fellow Wasserman clients, Steven Gerrard, Gary O’Neil and Phil Neville. 
 

Rosenior and Heitinga are also Wasserman clients too, gerrimin! 

[CosbehFox]

2 minutes ago, kingfox said:

I see Lisci is actually a Wasserman client @Tommy Fresh

 

He’ll definitely be on the list alongside fellow Wasserman clients, Steven Gerrard, Gary O’Neil and Phil Neville. 
 

Rosenior and Heitinga are also Wasserman clients too, gerrimin! 

Wasserman link burned with John Morris + Enzo. 

Edited 28 March by CosbehFox

[kingfox]

7 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

Wasserman link burned with John Morris + Enzo. 

Going after Potter, supposedly interested in Rosenior and having a bunch of our players under them, the relationship surely can’t be that bad. 

[Claudio Fannieri]

6 hours ago, Lesterlad said:

Then he meets Rudkin

Summer will be fine it will be January when it all unravels that’s Rudkin’s usual MO 

[1972 Fox]

4 hours ago, sylofox said:

Agreed. I don't see RVN going until Xmas.

 

Even Top and Rudkin must be aware he had nothing and they added nothing to help him.

 

RVN is not great but could anyone do anything with this bunch of gutless bottle jobs we have for a squad.

It will be a disaster if we keep RvN as our downward spiral will continue IMO.

 

He has shown absolutely nothing to suggest he's a good Manager. We need to replace him with someone who will give us a chance of competing for promotion.

[Guppys Love Child]

45 minutes ago, 1972 Fox said:

It will be a disaster if we keep RvN as our downward spiral will continue IMO.

 

He has shown absolutely nothing to suggest he's a good Manager. We need to replace him with someone who will give us a chance of competing for promotion.

100% agree..

 

IMO He's just not management material, and certainly not at Championship level.

 

Just his team selections prove that, playing Dads Army for starters, not starting with Stephy and especially Facando who show they are better optons when actually making it on the pitch.  Faes....welln enough said, and  not even considering playing any youth, just teasing them with 1st team training , then rewarding them with a spot on the bench.  Poor subs.  etc etc.

 

Get him gone ASAP...

 

[Sankey93]

Henrik Rydstrom!