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By Quorndon_Fox, in Leicester City Forum

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LCFCJohn

LCFCJohn

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8 hours ago, Lad1966 said:

I find this whole situation weird!

I don’t understand wtf going on. No communication of any sorts, about anything! The manager situation is even weirder, even if they don’t want RVN, they should be communicating with him, just incase we have to keep him. Now if we do keep him, he’s going to totally piss@d off! 
I am beginning to think, Top and his board are deliberately doing this, because, they feel we should be grateful for the success we had in the past!

For me, as a supporter for over 40 years, I’ve never felt so disengaged with the club.

Straight out of the Chansiri playbook if so….

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winteriscoming

winteriscoming

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1 minute ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

Now we are officially a championship club I have a feeling there will be a managerial bomb dropped on social media in the next 72 hours. 

Ruud 5 year contract extension?? 

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Happy Fox

Happy Fox

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20 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

Now we are officially a championship club I have a feeling there will be a managerial bomb dropped on social media in the next 72 hours. 


If we cannot sack Ruud due to PSR we aren’t going to hire anyone till July anyway. Which will be abysmal, but typical of KPFC

teblin

teblin

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Just now, Happy Fox said:


If we cannot sack Ruud due to PSR we aren’t going to hire anyone till July anyway. Which will be abysmal, but typical of KPFC

Surely there is a clever way you could do this from an account perspective. You are close enough to July that you pay his wages up to the end of the month then the severance package is in the new financial year.

kingpowerout

kingpowerout

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1 minute ago, teblin said:

Surely there is a clever way you could do this from an account perspective. You are close enough to July that you pay his wages up to the end of the month then the severance package is in the new financial year.

Exactly. There’s always room for negotiation. I reckon RVN is probably being quite stubborn which is why it’s dragging out. Don’t blame him tho, he wasn’t exactly backed by the club and his reputation has taken a negative turn in recent months 

Jazzy_Jeff

Jazzy_Jeff

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10 minutes ago, kingpower said:

Exactly. There’s always room for negotiation. I reckon RVN is probably being quite stubborn which is why it’s dragging out. Don’t blame him tho, he wasn’t exactly backed by the club and his reputation has taken a negative turn in recent months 

Can’t we just place on gardening leave and then use the next month getting ready without him? 

Claudio Fannieri

Claudio Fannieri

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The reason I think we will hear something over the next few days is that now we are officially a championship club that will mean the wage reduction clauses kick in which would reduce Ruud’s pay off which would also reduce the risk of breaching PSR,  in addition compensation for Rohl reduces, however given the chaos at Wednesday maybe we believe we can get him by negotiating a reduced release fee given they must be in some sort of breach of contract and it will be getting to a stage where Rohl could legitimately walk away and no or minimal compensation payable. 

 

it depends how close to the wire we are but if it’s that tight, it makes no sense to continue to delay as it will have more of a detrimental impact to next season which could be far more costly. 

Big Dave

Big Dave

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3 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

The reason I think we will hear something over the next few days is that now we are officially a championship club that will mean the wage reduction clauses kick in which would reduce Ruud’s pay off which would also reduce the risk of breaching PSR,  in addition compensation for Rohl reduces, however given the chaos at Wednesday maybe we believe we can get him by negotiating a reduced release fee given they must be in some sort of breach of contract and it will be getting to a stage where Rohl could legitimately walk away and no or minimal compensation payable. 

 

it depends how close to the wire we are but if it’s that tight, it makes no sense to continue to delay as it will have more of a detrimental impact to next season which could be far more costly. 

Wasn’t it posted that 13th June is the key date for us? If so, may be at least another week before anything happens.

Iwebema

Iwebema

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We were officially a championship club on the 4th June following the AGM, so I would assume that is not the trigger we had hoped in terms of lowering compensations to RVN or for Rohl etc.

 

I still find it hard to believe we are going to keep RVN, I cant see how we can go from this to suddenly saying you were the guy all along (although we are absolutely bonkers these days)

 

My assumption either there is a specific date in his contract where wages and compensation is lower further down the line or we are waiting for the PSR year to end unless we sell someone first because we are that close.

 

Either way the whole situation is completely ridiculous, its beyond me how anyone can sit back and watch this and think its fine and normal.

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AjcW

AjcW

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1 minute ago, Iwebema said:

We were officially a championship club on the 4th June following the AGM, so I would assume that is not the trigger we had hoped in terms of lowering compensations to RVN or for Rohl etc.

 

I still find it hard to believe we are going to keep RVN, I cant see how we can go from this to suddenly saying you were the guy all along (although we are absolutely bonkers these days)

 

My assumption either there is a specific date in his contract where wages and compensation is lower further down the line or we are waiting for the PSR year to end unless we sell someone first because we are that close.

 

Either way the whole situation is completely ridiculous, its beyond me how anyone can sit back and watch this and think its fine and normal.

We officially stopped being a Premier League team on Wednesday, it's today we become a Championship side (yay). 


But I highly doubt anything will happen.

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ClaphamFox

ClaphamFox

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12 minutes ago, Iwebema said:

We were officially a championship club on the 4th June following the AGM, so I would assume that is not the trigger we had hoped in terms of lowering compensations to RVN or for Rohl etc.

 

I still find it hard to believe we are going to keep RVN, I cant see how we can go from this to suddenly saying you were the guy all along (although we are absolutely bonkers these days)

 

My assumption either there is a specific date in his contract where wages and compensation is lower further down the line or we are waiting for the PSR year to end unless we sell someone first because we are that close.

 

Either way the whole situation is completely ridiculous, its beyond me how anyone can sit back and watch this and think its fine and normal.

The end of the accounting period was always likely to be more important than officially becoming a Championship club. Unfortunately that means that RVN isn't likely to sacked until a couple of days before pre-season training is due to start. I'm trying to tell myself that this may be a good thing because it will mean that they've learned from last summer (when they recruited Steve Cooper on 20 June rather than wait a few weeks to pay compensation for Corberan) and will announce a genuinely exciting name on 1 July. However, deep down I suspect that Top is just enjoying his leisure time and they have probably scarcely begun discussing what they're going to do yet...

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Rob1742

Rob1742

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Got to be staying now. If it wasn’t done on 4th June  surely he’s staying and in our usual style we never communicate unless it’s something big like a sacking. 
 

Imagine sacking him now. Now that would be an absolute shit show as it would mean they have taken like months after relegation was confirmed to make the decision. I can’t see it happening now. 

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Leicesterpool

Leicesterpool

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May guess club have got one prime target in mind and perhaps no one else... if they cant get him we're stuck with Ruud 🤨

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ClaphamFox

ClaphamFox

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8 minutes ago, Rob1742 said:

Got to be staying now. If it wasn’t done on 4th June  surely he’s staying and in our usual style we never communicate unless it’s something big like a sacking. 
 

Imagine sacking him now. Now that would be an absolute shit show as it would mean they have taken like months after relegation was confirmed to make the decision. I can’t see it happening now. 

1 July is a much more significant date than 4 June. It was always just a theory (and a fairly implausible one) that we'd be able to sack RVN more cheaply when we officially became a Championship club. The beginning of the new accounting period is a much more important milestone.

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Claudio Fannieri

Claudio Fannieri

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46 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

1 July is a much more significant date than 4 June. It was always just a theory (and a fairly implausible one) that we'd be able to sack RVN more cheaply when we officially became a Championship club. The beginning of the new accounting period is a much more important milestone.

It will very much depend how the termination clause of his contract is drafted, contract clauses are usually pretty black and white and very rarely open to interpretation unless it is poorly written (Premier League PSR 😂). 
 

therefore if his compensation clause is X as a premier league club and Y as a championship or EFL club then it could well be a very significant date and enable the club to sack him with a reduced pay off. 
 

however it will also depend on the PSR position, but I still have an inkling that we will start to see some positive activity in regards to the managerial position over the coming week. 

Levi Port

Levi Port

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We’re a shambles but I can’t see even us waiting untill the 1st of July to sack Ruud and get in another manager. That is just way too long, something must happen in the next 10 days 

ClaphamFox

ClaphamFox

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1 minute ago, Levi Port said:

We’re a shambles but I can’t see even us waiting untill the 1st of July to sack Ruud and get in another manager. That is just way too long, something must happen in the next 10 days 

This is exactly the kind of thinking that led to Cooper being appointed.

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