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[Paninistickers]

8 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said:

Not this again. They are out there. I genuinely can’t be arsed to list them again. I do think people are underestimating our draw. Managers who are out of work really would want to come to manager us. Even under pressurised circumstances 

Exactly this. Decent managers and coaches are out there by the thousand for league one and two jobs, let alone ours.  But Whelan Rudkin and Top narrow down the search to only those whose agent have submitted a CV and then to those they've heard of, somewhat narrowing the available options by 99.9%

[Dr The Singh]

29 minutes ago, JimJams said:

He said "good" free agents to be fair.

Im a free agent, always for the ladies

[ClaphamFox]

27 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said:

Not this again. They are out there. I genuinely can’t be arsed to list them again. I do think people are underestimating our draw. Managers who are out of work really would want to come to manager us. Even under pressurised circumstances 

Fine, but my fear is that if we go down the ‘cheap and available’ route it will end with Dyche or Carrick or - God forbid - Hughton rather than the type of manager you describe. And in answer to your original point about giving Rohl a swerve because it might be more complicated to get him, I couldn’t disagree more. IF he’s the best available candidate for the job, we should do everything in our power to get him. No more compromise appointments to save money.

Edited 12 June 2025 by ClaphamFox

[kingfox]

26 minutes ago, Guppys Love Child said:

To satisfy Dyches brand of footfball I have a hunch that any transfers into the club would be of a similar mold to Cooper. Uninspiring ' journeymen' looking for a last payday with next to no re-sell value  who in turn  are and not up to playing in the Premiership ant longer, and if by some 5000 -1 miracle they got us promoted  playing Dycheball. 

 

We need someone who will promote the youth and get the best our of the players who do stay.

 

Adapting to what we have and not trying  to force sub standard  players acquired to fit into a drab, and dated way of playing.

Going Dycheball will only IMO add to our existing financial mess, sap what funds we do have on dross, and  not give us the ability to make profits on players. 

This is where fans get incredibly harsh on Dyche. People talk as if he’s addicted to only signing journeyman, yes he has a habit of doing so, but throughout his career he has also signed numerous players under 24 and improved them. Look at some of the defenders he’s signed throughout his career, Tarkowski, Collins, Keane. While he’s also had Ben Mee and Jarrad Branthwaite when they were 23 and 20 respectively. Burnley made some real good profit on players while he was there. 
 

Will he promote youth? It’s difficult to say, but he did so at Everton this season with Harrison Armstrong. Who’s to say he wouldn’t view the likes of Monga and Evans in a similar manner. But for a fact, there’s managers available who you can guarantee would prioritise our youth, with Dyche they’d be uncertainty. 
 

Ideally I don’t want him because of his style of football, but I’m not going to deny the fact, that this would be the perfect opportunity to change course/style. I personally think Dyche’s style would give us a better opportunity of staying in the Premier League if he got us that far, recent history suggests the possession route isn’t the way to go. 
 

I think we already have some players that suit his style, especially some of our defenders. While let’s be honest, our midfield and forward positions will more than likely be getting a revamp, regardless if it’s Dyche or someone else. 

[FoxinNotts]

3 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

Fine, but my fear is that if we go down the ‘cheap and available’ route it will end with Dyche or Carrick or - God forbid - Hughton rather than the type of manager you describe. And in answer to your original point about giving Rohl a swerve because getting him might be more complicated to get him, I couldn’t disagree more. IF he’s the best available candidate for the job, we should do everything in our power to get him. No more compromise appointments to save money.

But IF we are prepared to go for a manager that is currently employed, why go for Rohl? There are definitely better employed options than him!

[MrsJohnMurphy]

41 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

Guess work or genuine information? 

Just a thought, Muelensteen currently out of work

[ClaphamFox]

3 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said:

But IF we are prepared to go for a manager that is currently employed, why go for Rohl? There are definitely better employed options than him!

If any of those currently employed better quality managers want to join us, I’m all for it! I was just responding to your original post, which was about Rohl. 

Edited 12 June 2025 by ClaphamFox

[moore_94]

An issue I would have with us going for Dyche is that it yet again is another pivot in the opposite direction to the previous manager

 

Enzo to Cooper to Ruud to Dyche...

 

I can see the club being a lot more likely in future to want to yet again down the possession based style which I really could not see working with a Dyche-built squad

 

The club/Top seemingly do have an obsession with possession / Man City-lite, and due to the likelihood that they would always look to try and go down that route again at some point I would look to make sure that with this appointment that it encourages building a squad in that fashion

 

Not saying necessarily that it is the football I enjoy, but we need proper succession planning in place, and flip-flopping between play styles is going to cause us massive issues whenever we have to change manager and trying to build a squad

 

They need to pick a philosophy and stick to it, and I cannot see the medium to long-term future of this club being Dyche-ball - so in the short term we need to make sure the manager is, even if just slightly, leaning in that direction

Edited 12 June 2025 by moore_94

[Lambert09]

2 minutes ago, kingfox said:

This is where fans get incredibly harsh on Dyche. People talk as if he’s addicted to only signing journeyman, yes he has a habit of doing so, but throughout his career he has also signed numerous players under 24 and improved them. Look at some of the defenders he’s signed throughout his career, Tarkowski, Collins, Keane. While he’s also had Ben Mee and Jarrad Branthwaite when they were 23 and 20 respectively. Burnley made some real good profit on players while he was there. 
 

Will he promote youth? It’s difficult to say, but he did so at Everton this season with Harrison Armstrong. Who’s to say he wouldn’t view the likes of Monga and Evans in a similar manner. But for a fact, there’s managers available who you can guarantee would prioritise our youth, with Dyche they’d be uncertainty. 
 

Ideally I don’t want him because of his style of football, but I’m not going to deny the fact, that this would be the perfect opportunity to change course/style. I personally think Dyche’s style would give us a better opportunity of staying in the Premier League if he got us that far, recent history suggests the possession route isn’t the way to go. 
 

I think we already have some players that suit his style, especially some of our defenders. While let’s be honest, our midfield and forward positions will more than likely be getting a revamp, regardless if it’s Dyche or someone else. 

If we’re all honest with ourselves. if Pearson had more of a history in the game before he came to us, or we just had looked at his approach, I strongly believe we’d have categorized him the same way as dyche. There’s an awful lot of similarities between the 2 of them. We all know we need a Pearson type personality to turn things around from a club culture standpoint but we still object to the most obvious option to achieve that. 
 

I get it, I get excited by an attacking unknown manager as much as anyone and if we were mid table premf I’d demand that, but we need someone to just do the early grind for us and set up something sustainable we can build from. 

 

 

[winteriscoming]

Readily available foreign managers who I think we have a realistic chance of getting. 

Paolo Vanoli 

Jess Thorup 

Brian Priske 

Kasper Hjulmand 

Bo Svensson 

Martin Demichelis 

Paolo Bento 

 

Add to that Hassenhutl and Carlos Carvahal who’ve managed in this country and there’s plenty to at least look at. 
As well as Cleverley and Selles who are also readily available and did well in difficult circumstances last season. 

 

 

 

[winteriscoming]

It baffles me how you can reportedly go from Russell Martin to Sean Dyche as manager. They are polar opposite in styles of play. 
It just smacks of a that’ll do approach because they are readily available. 

[Claudio Fannieri]

2 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

It baffles me how you can reportedly go from Russell Martin to Sean Dyche as manager. They are polar opposite in styles of play. 
It just smacks of a that’ll do approach because they are readily available. 

Hence why we ended up with Cooper as the alternative to Potter, there is zero strategy whatsoever 

[ClaphamFox]

4 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

It baffles me how you can reportedly go from Russell Martin to Sean Dyche as manager. They are polar opposite in styles of play. 
It just smacks of a that’ll do approach because they are readily available. 

To be fair we don’t know that we’ve been in for either. Just as plausible that we’ve spoken to neither of them. 

[kingfox]

5 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

If we’re all honest with ourselves. if Pearson had more of a history in the game before he came to us, or we just had looked at his approach, I strongly believe we’d have categorized him the same way as dyche. There’s an awful lot of similarities between the 2 of them. We all know we need a Pearson type personality to turn things around from a club culture standpoint but we still object to the most obvious option to achieve that. 
 

I get it, I get excited by an attacking unknown manager as much as anyone and if we were mid table premf I’d demand that, but we need someone to just do the early grind for us and set up something sustainable we can build from. 

 

 

The fact is though, the English game has changed since the days of having Nigel Pearson in charge of us. Guardiola’s style has taken off and been replicated, but as I’ve alluded to numerous times on here, if this season is anything to go by, being more fast & direct, while having the tools to do damage on fast breaks and counter attacks is the route to go down nowadays. 
 

I think Dyche’s style still has it’s place, and I think for a newly promoted team, I’d favour his style to lead you to survival over a possession heavy one. But I think the main tweak Dyche would need to make is utilise pace more, if he became manager, I’d hope he’d see Mavididi and Fatawu like he did Maxwel Cornet, and not prioritise Ayew and Reid or sign someone who’s main attribute is crossing but lacks pace. 
 

With Dyche, you expect him to improve our defence and turn us into a hard working and grafting team. 
 

The negative though is of course his old school style, they’ll be fans advocating for it, but my personal preference is the style of high energy counter-pressing. 
 

I’d rather see that long term over a Dyche style continuity plan. 

[Tommy Fresh]

Dyche comes in, I can fully see opening day we'll all be moaning about the players he leaves on the bench

[whoareyaaa]

35 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

Readily available foreign managers who I think we have a realistic chance of getting. 

Paolo Vanoli 

Jess Thorup 

Brian Priske 

Kasper Hjulmand 

Bo Svensson 

Martin Demichelis 

Paolo Bento 

 

Add to that Hassenhutl and Carlos Carvahal who’ve managed in this country and there’s plenty to at least look at. 
As well as Cleverley and Selles who are also readily available and did well in difficult circumstances last season. 

 

 

 

Nay chance.

 

Cleverly would get walked over as well no idea why you want him, rather have Dyche or Ruud

Edited 12 June 2025 by whoareyaaa

[FoxinNotts]

34 minutes ago, MrsJohnMurphy said:

Just a thought, Muelensteen currently out of work

Actually a good idea

[whoareyaaa]

The only reason Ruud hasn't got the job is because he has put some players in line like Winks and Vesterguard and we know how Top values player power over the actual manager these days.

[winteriscoming]

10 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Nay chance.

 

Cleverly would get walked over as well no idea why you want him, rather have Dyche or Ruud

Why would Cleverley get walked over? 
Southampton have appointed Still and Ipswich have McKenna both young managers. Do they get walked over? 
Ruud has shown zero tactical ability and Dyche is a dinosaur. 

[FrankieADZ]

44 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

An issue I would have with us going for Dyche is that it yet again is another pivot in the opposite direction to the previous manager

 

Enzo to Cooper to Ruud to Dyche...

 

I can see the club being a lot more likely in future to want to yet again down the possession based style which I really could not see working with a Dyche-built squad

 

The club/Top seemingly do have an obsession with possession / Man City-lite, and due to the likelihood that they would always look to try and go down that route again at some point I would look to make sure that with this appointment that it encourages building a squad in that fashion

 

Not saying necessarily that it is the football I enjoy, but we need proper succession planning in place, and flip-flopping between play styles is going to cause us massive issues whenever we have to change manager and trying to build a squad

 

They need to pick a philosophy and stick to it, and I cannot see the medium to long-term future of this club being Dyche-ball - so in the short term we need to make sure the manager is, even if just slightly, leaning in that direction

this is what some of the people wanting dyche do not understand

plus the fact he rarely uses youth players as well, stat within this thread has shown that

[fox_favourite]

1 hour ago, em9999 said:

There is no next manager 

 

💯

So you think we're sticking with Ruud, or the search hasn't started? 

[whoareyaaa]

3 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

Why would Cleverley get walked over? 
Southampton have appointed Still and Ipswich have McKenna both young managers. Do they get walked over? 
Ruud has shown zero tactical ability and Dyche is a dinosaur. 

Clevery has done nothing, Ruud has actually won the dutch cup and finished second in a similar standard of league, dyche has managed to get promoted twice and stay in the Prem, so no sure what you mean ?

[whoareyaaa]

6 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

this is what some of the people wanting dyche do not understand

plus the fact he rarely uses youth players as well, stat within this thread has shown that

Wilder is the biggest Dinousaur out there and he just got Sheff utd promoted

[FrankieADZ]

3 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Wilder is the biggest Dinousaur out there and he just got Sheff utd promoted

did he 

same wilder who was god awful with Sheff Utd in the prem and bottled the championship title

both honking and not whats needed

Edited 12 June 2025 by FrankieADZ

[em9999]

4 minutes ago, fox_favourite said:

So you think we're sticking with Ruud, or the search hasn't started? 

I think fans are presuming and rightly so that ruud will be sacked but I see nothing and have heard nothing from the club that would suggest that this is the case 

 

I think it's just wishful thinking