Harry Winks Axed

[HankMarvin]

Just now, Bourbon Fox said:

200 miles

What’s the day look like 

get to “work” 10 have breakfast 

out of the pitch 11

lunch at 1230

finished by 2 or 3

 

 

[RedSoxUK]

To be quite honest with you fine gentlemen, if Ruud Van Nistelrooy asked me to do anything id tell that fraud to get to ****. 

 

Go on Winks you tell him to **** off. With absolute no respect to that twat in charge, perhaps it would have been normal to ask, idk, the ****ing director of football, what was agreed when back pass Spursy twat was signed. Where im sure shitty Jon said 'whatever you want Winksy, live wherever the **** you want.'

 

Too late for this Ruud.

[Bourbon Fox]

37 minutes ago, hejammy said:

Have you ever had to a regular long commute? I'm telling you now it ain't easy. It grinds on you. The traffic, the shit drivers, accidents, road closures, and before anyone says "yeah but he's got an awesome 100k+ car so makes it easier" . Nah it doesn't - maybe for the first week. But after that it's the same old. Takes you a couple of hours to get back to 100% so yeah I get why RVN wants him to stay. 

 

Plus from my experience with Winks, he's a right misreble shit. 

We're talking about one full day a week spent in a car on the M1. I've done it and it knackers you. And assuming they train from a reasonable time in the morning, it'll also be costing him sleep.

 

Seems like if you were looking at elite performance, wanting a player to be fully rested the day of a game would be a fairly fundamental place to start.

[hejammy]

7 minutes ago, funkyrobot said:

Seriously? Have you never worked with a colleague that seems to be more susceptible to illnesses and never (even subconsciously) questioned their commitment? Wow. 

You are confusing reliability with commitment. Yes I would think he's not reliable but unless he is lying, and I'm pretty sure it would be more or less impossible for a footballer to lie about a long term injury, you can't say he's not commited but you could argue he's not reliable (unless Ofcourse he makes no effort to recover from his injuries) 

Edited 3 April by hejammy

[Bourbon Fox]

3 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

What’s the day look like 

get to “work” 10 have breakfast 

out of the pitch 11

lunch at 1230

finished by 2 or 3

 

 

Do you think you would play better if you had a) got up at half 8, had breakfast then popped down the road or b) got up at half 7 and spent a couple of hours driving up from Hertfordshire?

 

 

[Tuna]

The bigger issue for me is who is leaking all these stories. We are like a sieve.

[urban.spaceman]

Just now, Tuna said:

The bigger issue for me is who is leaking all these stories. We are like a sieve.

It’s …….. Rebekah Vardy

[Bob Weasel Fox]

Just now, urban.spaceman said:

It’s …….. Rebekah Vardy

Or her PA 🙄

[South Shire Fox]

7 minutes ago, Bourbon Fox said:

We're talking about one full day a week spent in a car on the M1. I've done it and it knackers you. And assuming they train from a reasonable time in the morning, it'll also be costing him sleep.

 

Seems like if you were looking at elite performance, wanting a player to be fully rested the day of a game would be a fairly fundamental place to start.

I imagine him being the father of a newborn will be costing him sleep as it is

[HankMarvin]

5 minutes ago, Bourbon Fox said:

Do you think you would play better if you had a) got up at half 8, had breakfast then popped down the road or b) got up at half 7 and spent a couple of hours driving up from Hertfordshire?

 

 

maybe having a newborn is at home is making his numbers fall in training and match day performances and that is why its been requested 

[funkyrobot]

Just now, hejammy said:

You are confusing reliability with commitment. Yes I would think he's not reliable but unless he is lieing, and I'm pretty sure it would be more or less impossible for a footballer to lie about a long term injury, you can't say he's not commited but you could argue he's not reliable (unless Ofcourse he makes no effort to recover from his injuries) 

A lack of reliability can be a sign of lack of commitment. I’m not saying Madders is pulling sickies but using him as a glowing example of commitment when he misses a third of the season every season is a bit of a stretch.
 

Winks commuting is a non issue that is perhaps being used by RVN to reinforce his leadership when he’s struggling to manage. The issue is a poor people manager, managing a poor squad (badly) at a club that is an absolute embarrassment at the moment from Top to bottom. 

[HybridFox]

IF and it's an absolute massive IF the way things have gone beyond t***s up, they are going give Ruud a stay of execution next season, then I'm all for this sort of upheaval.

 

Drain the swamp and release the lot who don't want to be here. There are plenty in the ranks who will take their place and can bring in characters who fit in with the ethos. 

 

I don't see the club having any sort of plan however

Edited 3 April by HybridFox

[HankMarvin]

2 minutes ago, funkyrobot said:

Winks commuting is a non issue

Bit dangerous maybe 

[Arkie Bennett]

19 minutes ago, Bob Weasel Fox said:

Or her PA 🙄

Her dad?

[Pita]

1 hour ago, Foxin_Mad said:

Let’s face it none of these ***** will be missed

Worse team ever put together by Leicester 

[Pliskin]

57 minutes ago, funkyrobot said:

However painful it is to accept, Winks is one of our better midfielders. Better than Skipp, better than Soumare.
 

RVN should focus on imposing the bare minimum standards on the pitch first. That starts with picking the best players at his disposal and playing them with some semblance of an attacking plan. He’s failed miserably at this. He instructed his team to defend the 2-0 loss in the 2nd half yesterday (as confirmed by Luke Thomas) as if losing 2-0 without a fight or even attempting to score is going to help our desperate relegation fight. His standards have resulted in 0 goals in the last 7 games, - all defeats. His management of Winks hasn’t improved the player or the team, his management of Buonanotte hasn’t improved the player or the team, his management of Mavididi hasn’t helped the player or the team, his management of Coulibaly has been disastrous. As I say, the only player who isn’t dialling it in at the moment is Luke Thomas. Poor people management from RVN. 

 

 

He’s not, he’s stunk the place out this season, he works in an Enzo system, but anything else he doesn’t. If we can get anything for him, sell him.

[ian__marshall]

Having listened to RVNs RL interview last night I had a feeling something like this was about to emerge. It was clear something had gone off. No way a player like Winks doesn't even make the match day squad purely on tactical grounds. Wouldn't be surprised if we see murmurings of discontent from Vardy over the next day or two seeing as RVN used the same 'tactical' reasoning for pulling him at HT yesterday despite having flogged the bloke to death since he was appointed. Will be interesting to see if RVN can ride this out. 

 

Don't agree with Winks' actions here if all is normal at home, however without knowing the full picture I will reserve judgement. If his partner had to undergo surgery during birth meaning she has limited mobility, is experiencing post natal depression, or there's a medical issue with their child, then I'd be supportive of his wish to be be closer to home as either situation is very challenging for a father who has to care for both newborn and partner.

 

If that's not the case then RVN has every right to demand more, as without such problems, one night a week is a reasonable request. Whilst it may not directly be Winks fault as clearly the club have approved his commute, if he has got personnel issues it highlights the necessity for all of our players to be living within the local area, as this wouldn't be so much of an issue if he does indeed have personal issues.

 

Assuming all at home is well with Winks, stories like this frustrate the hell out of me. Just when I think I'm at the point where my dislike for RVN can't be worse, a story like this emerges and my defiant nature kicks in and I really want to get behind him and back him to succeed. Reminds me a bit of the Pearson early doors in his second spell and results were mediocre whilst he kept publicly suggesting all wasn't well in the camp. At that time I thought it was his issue and he was incapable of managing egotistical players. Turned out he was right all along and having toxicity within the camp wasn't conducive to success, and the club were right to stick by him. 

 

Not suggesting RVN is the man to lead this squad, and tactically from what I've seen so far he's been horrendous, but it is making me question my viewpoint, whether there's more to the situation than meets the eye, and in actual fact if he can shape the club in his mould longer term maybe it could be for the better. 

 

Edited 3 April by ian__marshall

[Heathrow fox]

Anybody mentioned Brian Little and his non negotiable thirty mile radius rule?
It may have been thirty minutes come to think of it

[Bert]

2 hours ago, StanSP said:

Would love to know the reasons why Winks couldn't stay just one night a week. 

 

I wonder if Winks has been late to training sometimes because of the commute. 

 

On the face of it it's a fair request. Hardly earth-shattering to be asked to stay overnight somewhere for 1 night a week. 

 

About time the prima donnas are brought down a peg or two. 

Would imagine now that it’s partly due to him having a newborn. But would also imagine his argument would be that it was fine under Enzo. But that’s still not ok because you should be respecting what your current manager is asking. 
 

I’m sure we used to have a thing where new players signing had to be within x amount of miles from the training ground. 

[It'sblueupnorth]

Let’s be honest it wasn’t fine under Enzo either, his form dropped off a cliff 2nd half of the season.

Cant really understand the support he’s getting, travelling 200 miles a day as a normal person is hard enough, never mind a supposed ‘elite’ level footballer. And this scenario will have hardly sprung up on him, surely when they found out his Mrs was pregnant he moves them all up to Leicestershire so he’s not having to travel 200 miles a day with a very young family. 
The club has a multitude of properties I find it hard to believe he wouldn’t have been able to use one whilst he plays for us if he requested one, and that’s forgetting the fact he could afford to buy anything he wanted within the county if nothing the club had suited them both. 

As others have said it’s par for the course for how badly standards have dropped at the club in the last few years, tops let them **** around and do what the want for the last few years on lottery winning contracts why would he give a **** 

[The Horse's Mouth]

If he wants to be a stay at home dad then he’s welcome to rip up his contract 

[Jattdogg]

Winks or any player making epl money, playing for Leicester should be living within 30 minutes drive of the ground period. Deal with it you over paid babies. It's not exactly London real estate prices.

 

My 2 cents that nobody gives a fuch about lol.

 

Back to being non-judgy. Lol

 

[fazzyfox]

Don’t mind where he gets his forty winks.

Actually I do, particularly as he’s supposedly one of the leaders in the group. How can they have midnight feasts and play fart tennis without him? 
 

More concerned about faulty Winks - sloppy passes in dangerous areas and stopping running v West Ham when he’d only been on for 10 minutes. 

[Lako42]

**** I hate modern footballers 

 

They are impossible to actually support. Spoilt millionaire willy pullers. 

[Dan]

Never managed to fully shake the discomfort of adding Spurs losers to this already soft as shit dressing room. Taken its time (aka when we're not playing teams we have 10 times the wage bill of) but we got there. Get him gone.

 

Will start our opener though.