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Posted
12 minutes ago, filbertway said:

Wilf was massive for us last season, would be a shame to lose him for £9m. Especially when we turned down £10m for McAteer lol

 

He was ok before he got injured. After that he was bang average.

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We had some great times with Wilf early on, proper destroyer in his prime, those days are long behind him, too good for the championship not good enough for the premier league, £9m given the football landscape feels about right. 

Unfortunately for me he's a player whose legs went from being able to play at the top level about 3/4 years ago and rather than recognise that and move on, we did our normal thing and took the easy option of just extending him.

I don't think hes one of the main culprits of anger, but I won't be sad to see him go.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

He was ok before he got injured. After that he was bang average.

I wouldn't be against the sale if we had anything resembling a competent recruitment strategy. If we don't replace him with someone who has a similar physical presence we're gonna be easy pickings from set pieces and balls into the box next season.

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Just now, filbertway said:

I wouldn't be against the sale if we had anything resembling a competent recruitment strategy. If we don't replace him with someone who has a similar physical presence we're gonna be easy pickings from set pieces and balls into the box next season.

Wilf is done - he was found out several seasons ago. Every now and again (aka West Ham home) he puts in a good performance with good tackling stats, but his limitations expose him and the game has moved on.

 

He still offers something in the Championship but as time ticks away he has clearly shown he doesn't have the appetite for it now.  The championship is a grind - you have to be dedicated to it.

 

Be interesting to see who takes a punt. Few seasons a ago there were rumours about Forest, but i cant see him getting a sniff in that side right now.

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1 minute ago, Chelmofox said:

Wilf is done - he was found out several seasons ago. Every now and again (aka West Ham home) he puts in a good performance with good tackling stats, but his limitations expose him and the game has moved on.

 

He still offers something in the Championship but as time ticks away he has clearly shown he doesn't have the appetite for it now.  The championship is a grind - you have to be dedicated to it.

 

Be interesting to see who takes a punt. Few seasons a ago there were rumours about Forest, but i cant see him getting a sniff in that side right now.

Not as a starter but they will be in Europe next season and someone with his experience, and available for £9m would be a good squad addition. 

Posted
18 minutes ago, LVFox said:

 

 

I wonder if he's now more of a box to box midfielder,

Sure, he can be. There are drugs for that.

Curiously, when was the last time you saw him run (not jog) from box to box?

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£9m for a 28 year old that has played roughly 200 Premier League games and 30 games in Europe. I think that there will be a team or two that would see that as good business. All depends on his wages really.

 

He could easily revive his career elsewhere.

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Posted
9 minutes ago, Dmitry said:

Sure, he can be. There are drugs for that.

Curiously, when was the last time you saw him run (not jog) from box to box?

Box to box might not be the best description but he was certainly getting forward far more under Enzo than we'd seen before.

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Great player, one of the best Dms in the country at one point. £9m is good money. Not seen him or Soumare win a tackle between them in months 

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No one took him on a free last summer, why would anyone buy him? 

 

Im all for clearing out as many as possible, a lot of these clowns have been relegated 2 times now, they are mentally weak, no fight when the going gets tough, a lot of them are thoroughly unlikeable. 

 

We need to build again a new team with a different calibre of player if we ever have Premier League aspirations again. 

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Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, Number 6 said:

Not sure which club would see it as good business this season who wouldn't have taken him on a free last. 

But he wouldn’t have been free 

he’d have wanted a s/ o fee which would have been at least 10m spread over his contract.   We must have agreed to pay something like £5m for him to renew.  
 

I think he’s the one risking losing out rather than the buying club (or us).   These things tend to end up neutral for all parties once everything is taken into account. (At his level - when you’re taking about really good  players then the sums can’t be covered). 

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41 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

Wilf is done - he was found out several seasons ago. Every now and again (aka West Ham home) he puts in a good performance with good tackling stats, but his limitations expose him and the game has moved on.

 

He still offers something in the Championship but as time ticks away he has clearly shown he doesn't have the appetite for it now.  The championship is a grind - you have to be dedicated to it.

 

Be interesting to see who takes a punt. Few seasons a ago there were rumours about Forest, but i cant see him getting a sniff in that side right now.

I think used correctly he's still a fine player and certainly good enough to be in most squads in the prem.

 

We clearly see the guy completely differently though. I think if he goes to a new club. 1) he'll naturally be re-energised and 2) if he has a manager with a brain, they'll utilise his specific skillset.

 

His physical presence and heigh in the middle will be a massive loss if we don't replace it.

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Posted
52 minutes ago, Number 6 said:

Not sure which club would see it as good business this season who wouldn't have taken him on a free last. 

Those clubs dont have time machines.

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