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1 hour ago, Brainy said:

If we're +8pts adrift in December/January in the PL in 2027 under Rohl, do we sack him or is he still the long term project? Doesn't take much for our fans to want a manager out, were some morons wanting Maresca out in our sticky patch near the end of that season lol

Would depend on the situation. Has he been backed? Are we competing and just a little unlucky or are we getting slapped every week like last season? It's not as simple as sack a manager if we're near the bottom of the prem, you have to look at the bigger picture but I understand your point that fans get frustrated quickly when things aren't going well but there isn't much can be done about that. My point about the long term is just thinking further forward than 6-12 months, we cannot keep sacking managers like we did last season and the way to do that is by hiring the right manager in the first place, easier said than done I know, but most could see with Cooper for example that it was a bad appointment and would ultimately end badly. None of us have crystal balls and we wouldn't know if any of the 3 mentioned candidates would succeed or fail but people can make their own guesses on that based on what they've seen from these managers previously and how they operate tactically etc.

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If Rohl becomes manager, he will be around for a season or less.  If he does well, he will be poached.  If he does badly, he'll be sacked 6 games after he should have been

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Fed up with this now - give to King / Powell and let’s get started on shipping out and finding a new striker.  If we can out Dufkin too, then this would be a potential Carlsberg reset.  When Dyche and Wilder learned tactics it was 2-3-5 and 1 sub.  The game has moved on and we need to embrace our younger talents and shift out the Pension Builders - plus those who think they are better than they actually are……

Posted
4 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

It’s absolutely insane.

 

We are going into the second week of pre-season without the following:

 

A new/updated kit

Sponsor troubles

PSR doubts

Pending fines

Pending points deductions

No manager/head coach 

No assistant

No GK coach

No SENIOR fitness coach

No senior Performance analyst 

No significant outgoings

No incomings

No statements from the board

 

Sick of Top and Rudders. Sooner we are sold to competent people who then recruit a sporting director and DOF, the better. 

One change, I’m not drunk today!

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Posted
38 minutes ago, jayfox26 said:

When I say long term, I'm not saying go all Chelsea and give Rohl an 8 year deal but we need to look beyond 6-12 months, we simply can't keep sacking managers like we have last season. If a manager gets poached like Enzo, yes it's frustrating but it means they've done well and we reap financial benefits in compensation. Out of the 3 mentioned, I'd also argue Rohl may be the cheapest wages wise. 

I agree with all that - but the delicate balance is that" it implies we have to be spot on with the man we go with. Or we could be being patient with a man who doesn't deserve our patience and loyalty...

Posted
2 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

It’s absolutely insane.

 

We are going into the second week of pre-season without the following:

 

A new/updated kit

Sponsor troubles

PSR doubts

Pending fines

Pending points deductions

No manager/head coach 

No assistant

No GK coach

No SENIOR fitness coach

No senior Performance analyst 

No significant outgoings

No incomings

No statements from the board

 

Sick of Top and Rudders. Sooner we are sold to competent people who then recruit a sporting director and DOF, the better. 

It's impressive to have forgotten you're listing things we're without by the second line. Have you thought about working for the club? :giggle:

Posted
5 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

It’s absolutely insane.

 

We are going into the second week of pre-season without the following:

 

A new/updated kit

Sponsor troubles

PSR doubts

Pending fines

Pending points deductions

No manager/head coach 

No assistant

No GK coach

No SENIOR fitness coach

No senior Performance analyst 

No significant outgoings

No incomings

No statements from the board

 

Sick of Top and Rudders. Sooner we are sold to competent people who then recruit a sporting director and DOF, the better. 

All of which would normally point toward the club being up for sale … normally.

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

It’s absolutely insane.

 

We are going into the second week of pre-season without the following:

 

A new/updated kit

Sponsor troubles

PSR doubts

Pending fines

Pending points deductions

No manager/head coach 

No assistant

No GK coach

No SENIOR fitness coach

No senior Performance analyst 

No significant outgoings

No incomings

No statements from the board

 

Sick of Top and Rudders. Sooner we are sold to competent people who then recruit a sporting director and DOF, the better. 

But we have got a Hulk.

 

Oh wait, that was the Avengers wasn’t it. Yeah we’re screwed.

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Posted
46 minutes ago, majaco said:

If Rohl becomes manager, he will be around for a season or less.  If he does well, he will be poached.  If he does badly, he'll be sacked 6 games after he should have been

If i dated Maya Jama, she would be around for a year or less.  If i can't deal with her i'll dump her, and if i dont perform she will get poached by someone. 

 

Much better i just settle with Sonia from Eastenders.

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Posted
18 minutes ago, smudgerfox said:

I agree with all that - but the delicate balance is that" it implies we have to be spot on with the man we go with. Or we could be being patient with a man who doesn't deserve our patience and loyalty...

Of course, that's ultimately the point that we can't get it wrong again. We've made 2 poor decisions with our last managers and we just cannot do that again. 

Posted
31 minutes ago, Mark_w said:

It's impressive to have forgotten you're listing things we're without by the second line. Have you thought about working for the club? :giggle:

it’s important not to not forget double negatives 

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If there's no announcement Monday, there needs to be protests! Not even about getting a manager in at this point/or the fact we don't have any outgoings/incomings. It's the deathly silence. Completely unacceptable!

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Posted
26 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

If i dated Maya Jama, she would be around for a year or less.  If i can't deal with her i'll dump her, and if i dont perform she will get poached by someone. 

 

Much better i just settle with Sonia from Eastenders.

while thinking Rohl would likely be around for a season or less, it doesn't mean  he doesn't have the potential for a good season.  It is widely reported he wants to manage in Germany.

 

The problem for us is the way the club is run.  We should always have a managerial short-list but it seems that we don't.  Or we are son financially messed up we can't get the manager we want.

Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, TheGoldenGod said:

If there's no announcement Monday, there needs to be protests! Not even about getting a manager in at this point/or the fact we don't have any outgoings/incomings. It's the deathly silence. Completely unacceptable!

What is potentially negative is leaving transfer business so late as this will likely impact on the fees. We need to cut the wage bill substantially.

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I have no problem at all with Rohl coming in and getting poached in a year. Not only does that mean that he's done a good job and we will get payment for him leaving but it will also mean that he leaves us in a better position than we are now, making is a more attractive proposition for a replacement. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, majaco said:

If Rohl becomes manager, he will be around for a season or less.  If he does well, he will be poached.  If he does badly, he'll be sacked 6 games after he should have been


 

id take being in the prem and searching for a new manager over appointing a mediocre manager who doesn’t get us promoted….

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Posted
4 minutes ago, MPH said:


 

id take being in the prem and searching for a new manager over appointing a mediocre manager who doesn’t get us promoted….

Went famously well last time….

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Posted
Just now, AjcW said:

Went famously well last time….


 

got to be in the prem to stand a chance of staying up 

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Posted (edited)
11 minutes ago, MPH said:

id take being in the prem and searching for a new manager over appointing a mediocre manager who doesn’t get us promoted….

tbf we could appoint either dyche or Wilder and it doesnt mean theyll do well

same with rohl tbf

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Scotch said:

I have no problem at all with Rohl coming in and getting poached in a year. Not only does that mean that he's done a good job and we will get payment for him leaving but it will also mean that he leaves us in a better position than we are now, making is a more attractive proposition for a replacement. 

Better off in terms of league position perhaps, but could we have confidence that a shortlist of suitable potential future managers would  have been prepared in order to avoid another period in limbo such as we find ourselves in at the moment?

And that would be to rely on suitable managers being available and willing to come at the time we need them.

I understand the need to appoint the best possible candidate but also think we need a period of stability in terms of both recruitment and style of play. We don't look like getting that at LCFC with the current 'revolving door' style seemingly favoured by our Board.

 

Posted
1 minute ago, MPH said:


 

got to be in the prem to stand a chance of staying up 

Hence why I would take Dyche right now.

 

That man would drag us up by the collar if he had to, and as the Burnley fan posted here, he played some good football in the Championship, when he can attack and is not just focussed on Premier League survival on a budget.
 

He would also give us a better chance of staying up, and then we can look to transition to a Manager who plays a better looking brand of Football.

 

Im not buying this idea that Dyche will destroy our youth set-up in a season and a half. 

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