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5 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

How can you go from Enzo to Dyche is completely baffling and typical of this club having no long term plans in place. 
Guaranteed if Dyche got the job his first signing would be Ings. 

But if you said from Cooper to Dyche, it sounds nowhere near as baffling!

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This is probably boring Sunday paper talk, but you can easily imagine him being shortlisted. 
 

I cba to post any tables again, but the data is out there that suggests Dyche loves experience. When he first came into Burnley, the average age of the squad was actually quite reasonable, but as time went on the squad got older. In four of the season’s he was at Burnley, whether it be Premier League or Championship, they had the oldest squad in the division. In his campaigns at Everton, last season they had the 2nd oldest squad in the division, this season the 4th. 
 

He also has a habit of fielding experienced starting 11’s. At times during his Burnley and Everton reigns, the average age of his starting line ups were 30 years old. 
 

That’s without taking into account his style of football. Those dreaming of having a target man up front, should be salivating at the thought of Dyche. 
 

Would I say Dyche is against promoting youth, no. For instance he gave Everton youngster Harrison Armstrong a crack in the first team this season. As @moore_94 has pointed out though, his history with promoting youth is very sporadic. 
 

There’s managers out there that you can guarantee would give our youngsters a chance, Sean Dyche doesn’t come into that bracket. 
 

If he got appointed, I’d be extremely nervous on how he’d view the likes of Nelson, Alves, Monga and Evans. 

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Take him over Martin any day of the week.  Yes he's dull as dishwater, but has the no nonsense streak that Pearson, and to an extent, Puel had in being to hopefully shift the dryrot that seems to permeate the club from top to bottom.

 

The club needs a complete reset and we need a post-Sven type appointment to rebuild.  He's far more suitable than most for that kind of grim work than an Enzo/Martin/Rohl and I'm prepared to take the medicine for this kind of thing to happen.  I think next season will be incomparable to 23/24 and we're not going to waltz it again.

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I’d rather keep Ruud, not because I think he has a clue what he’s doing but Dyche has always been everything I dislike about football. Given the directionless way we go about recruitment by giving the manager free rein, the thought of wasting more years by letting Dyche have his way with us (following on from Cooper last year) terrifies me.

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Point of interest and fact for those using David Moyes as the reason Dyche ain’t up to the job, Everton were 16th when Dyche left and are now 13th. Not suggesting Moyes isn’t the more accomplished Manager but get some perspective chaps.

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2 hours ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

In his 13 years at Burnley and Everton you can literally count on one hand the number of academy players he has promoted to the 1st team …let alone give them a significant number of appearances, only McNeil has really developed into an established player.

 

so bring him in and you can pretty much forget seeing a team/squad brimming with the likes of Nelson, Aluko, Braybrooke, Cartwright, Alves, Monga, Evans et al. 
 

The lack of clarity and consistency in the decision making at our club truly beggars belief 

Burnley hasn’t exactly been a hot bed for producing young players over the last 20 years. Everton he explained why players have not be chosen because they have not been good enough, case and point Cannon that was talked up as a youth product and now can’t get in the Sheffield united team 

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Dyche is our best chance of taking us straight back up again and, crucially, keeping us up. We can do the Man City lite thing again next year but then we'll get torn apart 26/27 in the Prem. More direct is not always bad, see Notts this season. 

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Everyone is talking about him being a short term manager option only. Every manager is seemingly a short term appointment these days. 

 

I can understand some people upset that it's a lack of ambition but I think our lofty success days are behind us.

 

We need a someone with proven success and had an edge about them, which he has.

 

Other than the title winning season, the most enjoyable time for me watching Leicester was under Pearson, with defenders who could actually defend and wingers who would bomb forward. It was genuinely exciting. I'm over the possession style football. 

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6 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

People are falling into a trap again, of “steady park of hands” or a “manager who takes no shit”.

 

Dyche and Leicester aren’t a good fit, he doesn’t offer a brand of football that the board will want and I he would be harmful for the development of the academy. 
 

We don’t need a battle axe, we need a forward thinking manager who knows exactly what they want…. Just like we had with Enzo, he wasn’t Dyche?

 

This is a sign of our desperation as a fan base…..

Is it not a desperate time?

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Re academy worries - Nelson will be in the squad next year, proven in Champ now and other CBs leaving. Alves - TBD. Monga and Evans - both 16 or younger, won't materially affect our season and could both walk away for nothing. It would be nuts to focus the managerial hire on who will play the latter versus, you know, getting promoted. 

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11 minutes ago, Uncle Monty said:

Is it not a desperate time?

It’s bad, very bad…. But with a good appointment it need not be. Enzo proved last season what a decisive manager can do if given the chance. That’s the type of character we need, not Dyche. 

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25 minutes ago, l444ry said:

Point of interest and fact for those using David Moyes as the reason Dyche ain’t up to the job, Everton were 16th when Dyche left and are now 13th. Not suggesting Moyes isn’t the more accomplished Manager but get some perspective chaps.

And yesterday's win at Fulham was only the 2nd win for Everton since mid-February . After the initial bounce under Moyes they have pretty much reverted to type.

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14 minutes ago, Poznan34 said:

Re academy worries - Nelson will be in the squad next year, proven in Champ now and other CBs leaving. Alves - TBD. Monga and Evans - both 16 or younger, won't materially affect our season and could both walk away for nothing. It would be nuts to focus the managerial hire on who will play the latter versus, you know, getting promoted. 

Get promoted with an oldish squad, sign more like we did this season and just repeat that cycle. I'd argue it's more nuts to not try and go with something more long term

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I actually wouldn't mind Dyche he'll get us up and can keep us up. I think we need someone with a strong personality to come in because at the moment we are rudderless.

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Makes me smile when people say hire Dyche then get rid; what is the point of that , our recruitment will be more scattergun and we will lurch from one style to another. 
 

simple action is set a strategy of playing fast attacking and exciting football, focus on our academy prospects with new singings being young ambitious players and the odd more experienced pro. That then provides a blue print for the future and we can then go and attract a manager and have a long term sustainable plan rather than lurching from pillar to post to achieve a short term goal which is actually not providing sustainable results. 

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There's more to the Dyche/Moyes switch than just results.

 

Everton have scored 2+ goals 12 times this season: 7 of those under Moyes.

 

Everton have failed to score in a game 15 times, 4 of those under Moyes.

 

And for balance: Everton have kept 10 clean sheets this season, 2 under Moyes.

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1 minute ago, Number 6 said:

There's more to the Dyche/Moyes switch than just results.

 

Everton have scored 2+ goals 12 times this season: 7 of those under Moyes.

 

Everton have failed to score in a game 15 times, 4 of those under Moyes.

 

And for balance: Everton have kept 10 clean sheets this season, 2 under Moyes.

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yeah people giving dyche the big one, same manager who manager who at everton couldnt get them to score and looked meh, 

yet Moyes comes in and they are a different beast

 

at Burnley he was pretty average as well imo

rather have someone who can build for the future and all due respect to Dyche(i like him as a person/manager tbf) i dont think he'd be the right person for us

we want someone who can build for the future and i honestly dont think Dyche is that man

 

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8 minutes ago, nettle said:

I actually wouldn't mind Dyche he'll get us up and can keep us up. I think we need someone with a strong personality to come in because at the moment we are rudderless.

yeah like he did with Burnley right

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43 minutes ago, Uncle Monty said:

Everyone is talking about him being a short term manager option only. Every manager is seemingly a short term appointment these days. 

 

I can understand some people upset that it's a lack of ambition but I think our lofty success days are behind us.

 

We need a someone with proven success and had an edge about them, which he has.

 

Other than the title winning season, the most enjoyable time for me watching Leicester was under Pearson, with defenders who could actually defend and wingers who would bomb forward. It was genuinely exciting. I'm over the possession style football. 

Unfortunately "The Lord of the tw@t's" Top isn't. I get the feeling he creams himself over the style.

 

I was never on board with the it, regardless of it initially bringing in results under Enzo, that is until we  were eventually found out and we nearly chucked it away.

It's a complete snoozefest to watch, plus it's now a philosophy on its way out. As Man City are proving with there dominance now on the decline.

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