Sean Dyche

[RoboFox]

Sack the board.

[J. James]

Back in 2012, l had a mate from Burnley and l would tease him by suggesting that SD would soon leave the Clarets for a big club - us!

He's been in our orbit for a while and once upon a time l would have been on the "gerrimin" side, but not so much now.

 

However, in a mini league of Cooper, Van Rooney and the gravel voiced grinder, he comes top by a measure.

 

The sad - no, tragic - part is that our awful owner has diminished our club to such an extent that no half decent, ambitious young manager picks us over say Soton, Leeds, or Sheffield utd, and half a dozen more!

These guys ain't stupid, incompetence and lies put people off bigtime in any business.

 

Dyche may be the best we can get... ☹️

[BigC]

rather Martin  

[Foxin_Mad]

4 minutes ago, BigC said:

rather Martin  

O'Neill?

 

Not that ****ing joker who has made Southampton so pathetically shit that even Rudd could easily beat them 2-0

 

Just no.

 

Honestly with these names we may as well not bother. 

[Guest Electric Yetis]

Don't think Dyche can take any credit for bringing Danny Ings through. He broke through at Bournemouth under Eddie Howe and then followed Howe to Burnley.

[TrentFox]

To secure the long term, you have to secure the short term. For me, from the names being suggested, Dyche is the best man to do that. If he can get us up and keep us there for a season, he will have been superb for us. All these comments about his football ….. well, who really enjoyed Enzo’s football? (Apart from Winks - who had his career saved). It was tedious. But we all loved winning and getting promoted. I just don’t see a better candidate to help us start on that path again. As for all these comments about swapping styles and the recruitment of players to play a certain style? Well, look where that’s got us! And who will we have left in August that is from that school of thought? We’re staring again from square one  in a few weeks time. Dyche may not be perfect, but he looks comfortably the best option for what I think we need in the immediate future.  

[CosbehFox]

52 minutes ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

They appointed Steve cooper I don’t think there’s a specific style they’re after 

 

not neccessairly directly through the academy, but trippier,Keane,tarkowski,McNeil,ings, Collins the list goes on of young players he brought in and they sold for massive profits once they developed them. 
 

Dyche has fixed up one club he built Burnley from a lower mid table championship team to a side who were regular present in the premier league despite no money in comparison to the rest of the prem.the idea you think we don’t need a massive reshuffle and the club needs rebuilding from the ground up is beyond delusional  it doesn’t need to be a long term plan either, needs 3 years tops and if we want to start moving up the league we get a new gaffer in. The last 3 promoted clubs all had pragmatic managers and only silva has remained whereas the other two have upgraded and are top half currently. 

 

Maresca didn’t though, he won the league with the league favourites, we have no idea if anything of this would’ve held water in the premier league because he left.

Your point about developing players is fair - albeit there seems to be a certain type of player there. Very little skill, agility - the sort of products Seagrave is producing at the moment.

 

Although looking at four of those players alone - there's a combined total of 250 league appearances before they'd even arrived at Burnley. 

[richardsfoxes]

3 hours ago, Ricey said:

I think the fact a lot of people here seem keen on Dyche is a sign of how far we’ve fallen.

 

It would be a ludicrous appointment that would yet again highlight the incompetence and lack of strategy at the club.

 

You can’t go about desperately trying to be Mini Man City, spending hundreds of millions on players who can (in theory) play that way, spend £100 million on a state of the art training ground and academy….then hire Sean Dyche. 
 

Even if he has some short term success, he’ll turn this squad into something that very few managers will want anything to do with. It will be old and wedded to a style of play very few managers play anymore. It will brick ourselves into a corner.

 

We need discipline and a new culture, but Sean Dyche isn’t the only manager that can bring that. We have to define a style of play that we think could get us up and then set us up in Premier League going forward. All of our recruitment and managerial appointments need to centre around that, even if it takes a couple of seasons.

Now is the time to be building foundations, not patching up holes.

Disagree, look at the options that we're available to us when we joined the prem, of all the options the only person who stood out from the interview process was cooper and then Ruud after 10-15 games or whatever, if a manager of any decent calibre who was available wanted it they would of got it. I mean we invested 100m into having one of the best training grounds in the UK and to try and develop a solid foundation of improving the youth and first team, both strategies have failed, our first team players have got worse and the youngsters who we develop are getting taken from us for pocket change/nothing. 

 

I think we have to just look at the short term right now, we need to become a stable club in the premier league and then start expanding into finding the best young manager who will be interested in the project, if we we're to continue the same strategy we had with Enzo where would it lead, we would have another up and coming manager constantly linked and eventually taken by a bigger club and leave us in the lerch during a transitional phase. What we need is someone stable who can get us established again. I for one do not care on the style of football we play, I just want to see the players giving 100%.

 

Of course we have fallen, we a championship club now with players on contracts that are bigger than other teams entire squads/first 11 combined. We have players who don't look interested in playing for us/don't care, we have a board that continue to make self combusting decisions every single season, what we need now more than ever especially in the short term is a steady stable hand who can lead us to having stable football on the pitch, do i think Sean Dyche is the future for us, no but we need someone cheap who we know is a solid stable manager, I just dont really understand who you think we can sign and who are options are as we have had PSR issues now for 3-4 years with constant points deduction threats and coinstant media coverage of our lack of funds to buy established players. 

 

 

 

 

[trooky]

On 11/05/2025 at 11:19, HankMarvin said:

There is a reason Moyes got the Job at Man U and won a European cup at West Ham. 
I’m not sure why all the people that use the improvement at Everton as a stick to beat Dyche. 
Everton with new investment and new stadium moved on and upgraded. We have been relegated and need rebuilding.

Because It shows how limited Dyche is.

 

Everton are 10th in the PL table since Moyes took charge with the same squad of players.

 

Under Dyche they were in the relegation places. 

 

Dyche may be good in the championship and achieves promotions, but will he accept a 1 year contract at Leicester because he can't manage in the PL and will be sacked in his first season back. 

[Noahfence]

Yeah not for me. 

[moore_94]

10 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

Your point about developing players is fair - albeit there seems to be a certain type of player there. Very little skill, agility - the sort of products Seagrave is producing at the moment.

 

Although looking at four of those players alone - there's a combined total of 250 league appearances before they'd even arrived at Burnley. 

I think McNeil is the only one he really brought through from the academy himself

[Hirsty The Blue 94]

1 minute ago, trooky said:

Because It shows how limited Dyche is.

 

Everton are 10th in the PL table since Moyes took charge with the same squad of players.

 

Under Dyche they were in the relegation places. 

 

Dyche may be good in the championship and achieves promotions, but will he accept a 1 year contract at Leicester because he can't manage in the PL and will be sacked in his first season back. 

I mean that's largely nonsense, he managed for almost a decade in the Prem, got relegated once with Burnley then immediately established them and got them into Europe, and it was only after they removed him they went down.

 

He took over Lampards crap at Everton who were destined to go down and kept them up, dealt with points deductions and limited money and again kept their head above water.

 

Moyes is a level above Dyche no doubt, but Dyche is absolutely the sort of appointment we should be looking at. He would rebuild the ethos of a club on its arse, and also unlike Enzo wouldn't bugger off as soon as any club bats their eyelids at him. His style of football is direct, not just hoofball, gets it forward quickly, gets it wide and gets crosses in, to me that's more entertaining than tippy tappy across the back 4.

 

His style of pragmatism if he takes us up is much more likely to keep us in the division than the likes of Martin who would play the same way every week and get beat to not sacrifice his principles.

[Jobyfox]

11 minutes ago, richardsfoxes said:

Disagree, look at the options that we're available to us when we joined the prem, of all the options the only person who stood out from the interview process was cooper and then Ruud after 10-15 games or whatever, if a manager of any decent calibre who was available wanted it they would of got it. I mean we invested 100m into having one of the best training grounds in the UK and to try and develop a solid foundation of improving the youth and first team, both strategies have failed, our first team players have got worse and the youngsters who we develop are getting taken from us for pocket change/nothing. 

 

I think we have to just look at the short term right now, we need to become a stable club in the premier league and then start expanding into finding the best young manager who will be interested in the project, if we we're to continue the same strategy we had with Enzo where would it lead, we would have another up and coming manager constantly linked and eventually taken by a bigger club and leave us in the lerch during a transitional phase. What we need is someone stable who can get us established again. I for one do not care on the style of football we play, I just want to see the players giving 100%.

 

Of course we have fallen, we a championship club now with players on contracts that are bigger than other teams entire squads/first 11 combined. We have players who don't look interested in playing for us/don't care, we have a board that continue to make self combusting decisions every single season, what we need now more than ever especially in the short term is a steady stable hand who can lead us to having stable football on the pitch, do i think Sean Dyche is the future for us, no but we need someone cheap who we know is a solid stable manager, I just dont really understand who you think we can sign and who are options are as we have had PSR issues now for 3-4 years with constant points deduction threats and coinstant media coverage of our lack of funds to buy established players. 

 

 

 

 

Your statements about becoming a stable PL club and looking in the short term are somewhat contradictory. Especially if it’s used to advocate the signing of someone like Sean Dyche.

 

LCFC will always have short term managers. The size of our club dictates that the best managers will be poached and the worst will be sacked. 
 

The best thing you can do is have continuity off the pitch. The investment in the Training ground, youth development, scouting network etc. all should have helped more than they have, but it’s still the right thing to do. The failure at boardroom level is something that should be addressed with a long term plan.

 

Hiring Dyche to sack him in the PL is a flawed plan, not because of the individual, but because of his style. The reason Cooper was such a poor appointment is that the players had all got very used to a system and way of playing only for it to be completely torn up again. We need to decide what sort of playing style we want and then recruit consistency with managers who’ll keep our identity. 
 

Things off the pitch is the only stuff you can really control and is the measure of a successfully run club. Managers will come and go and Sean Dyche is very much a yesterday’s man 

[FrankieADZ]

4 minutes ago, Hirsty The Blue 94 said:

I mean that's largely nonsense, he managed for almost a decade in the Prem, got relegated once with Burnley then immediately established them and got them into Europe, and it was only after they removed him they went down.

 

He took over Lampards crap at Everton who were destined to go down and kept them up, dealt with points deductions and limited money and again kept their head above water.

 

Moyes is a level above Dyche no doubt, but Dyche is absolutely the sort of appointment we should be looking at. He would rebuild the ethos of a club on its arse, and also unlike Enzo wouldn't bugger off as soon as any club bats their eyelids at him. His style of football is direct, not just hoofball, gets it forward quickly, gets it wide and gets crosses in, to me that's more entertaining than tippy tappy across the back 4.

 

His style of pragmatism if he takes us up is much more likely to keep us in the division than the likes of Martin who would play the same way every week and get beat to not sacrifice his principles.

and his style of football would not suit us at all with the type of players we currently have at the club(the ones who'll probably be here next season)

its not hoofball but crosses in......isnt going to work unless you have a certain type of striker....and certain types of wingers, 

 

some of our fans have this grand idea that Dyche is going to come in etc and turn it all around, but will we see the likes of Monga Evans etc given a chance under him, no

as @moore_94said Dyche hardly ever brought youth players in

 

i like dyche but he isnt the right manager for us

[filbertway]

Dyche is a top bloke but I wouldn't want him anywhere near my club as manager. His football is absolutely disgusting. He has no aspirations other than being tough to beat and if you bag a goal then great.

 

Awful awful awful. I'd say there's an argument to say he made Everton look worse than they were and made the job look harder than it actually was.

 

I just want a manager that has their team trying to be proactive and score goals and win games. A manager who's default setting is "do not lose" is not the one for me.

[FrankieADZ]

4 minutes ago, Jobyfox said:

Your statements about becoming a stable PL club and looking in the short term are somewhat contradictory. Especially if it’s used to advocate the signing of someone like Sean Dyche.

 

LCFC will always have short term managers. The size of our club dictates that the best managers will be poached and the worst will be sacked. 
 

The best thing you can do is have continuity off the pitch. The investment in the Training ground, youth development, scouting network etc. all should have helped more than they have, but it’s still the right thing to do. The failure at boardroom level is something that should be addressed with a long term plan.

 

Hiring Dyche to sack him in the PL is a flawed plan, not because of the individual, but because of his style. The reason Cooper was such a poor appointment is that the players had all got very used to a system and way of playing only for it to be completely torn up again. We need to decide what sort of playing style we want and then recruit consistency with managers who’ll keep our identity. 
 

Things off the pitch is the only stuff you can really control and is the measure of a successfully run club. Managers will come and go and Sean Dyche is very much a yesterday’s man 

spot on, thats what some of our fans dont seem to see, Dyche would want his own players in too, 

we cant keep going from a certain style of playing to other etc with every single manager

 

Brighton do it well, they stick to manager who have a certain way of playing/ideal 

[Guy]

22 hours ago, nettle said:

You're right he took them down then brought them back up

They went down with Dyche during our 10 years' old Great Escape season and then came straight back up again the following season. Been a yo yo team off and on ever since really! 

[The Horse's Mouth]

32 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

Your point about developing players is fair - albeit there seems to be a certain type of player there. Very little skill, agility - the sort of products Seagrave is producing at the moment.

 

Although looking at four of those players alone - there's a combined total of 250 league appearances before they'd even arrived at Burnley. 

Sure there’s that argument and Dyche is a very defensively sound manager, which is what we need if we’re not only to be promoted but to maintain our status next time. I think the likes of Monga would do quite well not too far off what cornet’s profile was and he probably got the best out of him 
 

I think it’s harsh to beat him with the stick of not bringing up players through Burnley’s academy mind, they’ve never had an esteemed academy and they’re in a pretty tough area in the country to attract young lads. It’ll be a fair criticism if you can show a youth player from Burnley that left and went on to develop into a prem quality player, if there’s no real examples then it’s more likely that he didn’t really have much to work with

 

I understand people being against it from a stylistic stand point, but you’ve got to walk before you can run and the sad truth of it is we’re a club in massive decline and I don’t think we can afford to take another punt on a manager without much of a CV to show for it 

[Chrysalis]

Top making a sensible decision for once?  Seems too good to be true.

[Number 6]

Worth pointing out that it might not be on his CV as he was sacked with 8 to go, but he was very much responsible for a second Burnley relegation too.

[The Horse's Mouth]

10 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

spot on, thats what some of our fans dont seem to see, Dyche would want his own players in too, 

we cant keep going from a certain style of playing to other etc with every single manager

 

Brighton do it well, they stick to manager who have a certain way of playing/ideal 

Brighton is actually a great example of proving your point wrong actually. Brighton got promoted with Chris hughton who solidified the club in the premier league before then changing their style and developing into a European contender. 

[Buzzell]

Could be a match made in heaven.

[jayfox26]

I can understand why some would want Dyche.

I can understand why some would want Rohl.

 

I cannot understand at all why anyone would want Martin, he's absolutely hideous! 

[TheGoldenGod]

If it's a financial decision, I think we get behind Ruud next season if he definitely wants to be here! I know it's not what people want to hear but I can't shake the feeling that moving on from another manager and starting again might not be best. Give a manager the support and backing and shift the wronguns (Vestergaard, Winks). Let him develop the young lads!

[whoareyaaa]

Would people rather keep Ruud or get Dyche if that’s the only options ?

 

I would personally rather keep Ruud even though I was keen on Dyche but not so much now