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leicsmac

leicsmac

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Just now, Jattdogg said:

Unlikely to happen, but ready to punch my way out of it. Haha

 

Is it too early for me to enjoy an ice cold Molson Canadian? 853am..should I wait until 9am?

Sun's beneath the yardarm somewhere mate, get it in. 

 

And I hooe you guys have those geese and moose on a war footing for when the time comes. :D

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leicsmac

leicsmac

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1 minute ago, South Shire Fox said:

His arsehole must be spotless right now

And isn't that sad. 

 

At least other aspiring autocrats like Xi actually understand the value of future proofing. 

CornwallFox

CornwallFox

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1 hour ago, Dr The Singh said:

So last month Rachel Reeves lands her greatness and policies on BOE dropping her interest rates.

 

Where is the pleb today, inflation is still a mess

 

Typical politicians any good news, its there doing any bad.........

Inflation is a mess partly due to ni costs but also a lot because food prices keep going up due to poor harvests, something happening more and more across the world now. You ain't changing that without taking prompt action against climate change.

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CornwallFox

CornwallFox

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53 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Starmer joining the long queue to rim Trump.

As much as I dislike trump, you have to admit Starmar's played a blinder. 

 

The £150bn in investments announced overnight is in addition to the US-UK deal. 

 

Fantastic bit of diplomacy bringing so much investment into the UK.

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reporterpenguin

reporterpenguin

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49 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Starmer joining the long queue to rim Trump.

I genuinely don't mean this in an antagonistic way, I'm honestly curious. 

 

Are you saying this as a criticism? I know you're not a fan of Starmer, largely understandably, but what else is he meant to do? It seems to be in the best/only way to keep Trump on side and as awkward and cringeworthy as it is, surely it's in our country's best interest to be in his good books. 

 

Politics is weird, even if it's not your "side" in charge you still tend to want them to do well for the greater good. I wasn't a fan of the Tories, but as someone in the country I wanted them to do well for the sake of us all. Presumably while not being a Starmer fan you would still want him to do well even if the way he goes about it isn't the way you would like? And as much as it's horrible to watch, joining that queue behind Trump and puckering up is surely what he has to do...

 

Like I say, genuinely interested and there's no dig intended. You seem a good example of someone who can have a reasonable debate with people you don't necessarily align with politically. 

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leicsmac

leicsmac

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6 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

As much as I dislike trump, you have to admit Starmar's played a blinder. 

 

The £150bn in investments announced overnight is in addition to the US-UK deal. 

 

Fantastic bit of diplomacy bringing so much investment into the UK.

 

2 minutes ago, reporterpenguin said:

I genuinely don't mean this in an antagonistic way, I'm honestly curious. 

 

Are you saying this as a criticism? I know you're not a fan of Starmer, largely understandably, but what else is he meant to do? It seems to be in the best/only way to keep Trump on side and as awkward and cringeworthy as it is, surely it's in our country's best interest to be in his good books. 

 

Politics is weird, even if it's not your "side" in charge you still tend to want them to do well for the greater good. I wasn't a fan of the Tories, but as someone in the country I wanted them to do well for the sake of us all. Presumably while not being a Starmer fan you would still want him to do well even if the way he goes about it isn't the way you would like? And as much as it's horrible to watch, joining that queue behind Trump and puckering up is surely what he has to do...

 

Like I say, genuinely interested and there's no dig intended. You seem a good example of someone who can have a reasonable debate with people you don't necessarily align with politically. 

I can see these points of view, but I do think at the very least the UK should be treating the current US as a potential belligerent displaying contempt for values the UK displays highly while acknowledging that matters of some cooperation are necessary, ala China, rather than all the bluster about friendship. For the current US administration, there are rivals and sycophants, no friends. And going on about the third just makes you look like the second. 

Tommy G

Tommy G

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Just now, reporterpenguin said:

I genuinely don't mean this in an antagonistic way, I'm honestly curious. 

 

Are you saying this as a criticism? I know you're not a fan of Starmer, largely understandably, but what else is he meant to do? It seems to be in the best/only way to keep Trump on side and as awkward and cringeworthy as it is, surely it's in our country's best interest to be in his good books. 

 

Politics is weird, even if it's not your "side" in charge you still tend to want them to do well for the greater good. I wasn't a fan of the Tories, but as someone in the country I wanted them to do well for the sake of us all. Presumably while not being a Starmer fan you would still want him to do well even if the way he goes about it isn't the way you would like? And as much as it's horrible to watch, joining that queue behind Trump and puckering up is surely what he has to do...

 

Like I say, genuinely interested and there's no dig intended. You seem a good example of someone who can have a reasonable debate with people you don't necessarily align with politically. 

I detest Trump and I think KS blows with the wind on policy making and who he sides with. He is the representative of our country and any news conference with Trump he comes across as the kid who got the golden ticket at willy wonka and is almost in awe of him. Take Macron, for all his faults, he takes a much harder line with Trump - KS is supposed to be the opposite side of the political spectrum and his behaviour is cringe. 

 

I get the greater good comment, and I don't think we should sever ties with our greatest ally because some crook is the President but we don't have to bend over for him. 

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Tommy G

Tommy G

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9 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

As much as I dislike trump, you have to admit Starmar's played a blinder. 

 

The £150bn in investments announced overnight is in addition to the US-UK deal. 

 

Fantastic bit of diplomacy bringing so much investment into the UK.

You really think this will be anywhere near £150bn? Secondly, for all his faults, Trump is astute and wont give with the left without taking with the right. Trump and the US will need a sweetener for all the last 3 days and this is it - takes the heat off Starmer and him with Mandelson and Epstein hanging over them both like a rain cloud. Optics my friend. 

Free Falling Foxes

Free Falling Foxes

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26 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

As much as I dislike trump, you have to admit Starmar's played a blinder. 

 

The £150bn in investments announced overnight is in addition to the US-UK deal. 

 

Fantastic bit of diplomacy bringing so much investment into the UK.

I have come around to this way of thinking too.

I think we may well have stitched him up like a kipper.

 

'Look Mr. President, lots of shiny shiny gold, pomp and pageantry, history, slap up feed and its all for you!'

 

He was putty in our hands. :cool: 

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CornwallFox

CornwallFox

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9 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

You really think this will be anywhere near £150bn? Secondly, for all his faults, Trump is astute and wont give with the left without taking with the right. Trump and the US will need a sweetener for all the last 3 days and this is it - takes the heat off Starmer and him with Mandelson and Epstein hanging over them both like a rain cloud. Optics my friend. 

The £150bn isn't coming from trump, it's coming from private companies and was announced separately to the US-UK trade deal. 

Do you have any reason to discredit the figures. Out of interest have you ever discredited the figures of whichever party you vote for? 

The mandelson issue is a complete nonsense issue. It's Westminster tittle-tattle that has no effect on the economy or you or I. 

A major set of investments does affect those things. 

 

Tommy G

Tommy G

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4 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

The £150bn isn't coming from trump, it's coming from private companies and was announced separately to the US-UK trade deal. 

Do you have any reason to discredit the figures. Out of interest have you ever discredited the figures of whichever party you vote for? 

The mandelson issue is a complete nonsense issue. It's Westminster tittle-tattle that has no effect on the economy or you or I. 

A major set of investments does affect those things. 

 

Jesus man I know it's not coming from Trump :facepalm:

 

Yes I have reason to discredit the figures and yes I have discredited the figures of whichever party I vote for. 

 

Epstein doesn't have an effect on the economy or you and I, is it a non issue too?

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leicsmac

leicsmac

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To add to the current discussion: I detest the whole idea of realpolitik that means that playing nice rather than a sometimes annoying necessity with someone like Trump has to even be considered as a viable option. 

 

It really shouldn't be a thing that loathsome individuals even gain the power that they do in the first place, much less that other people have to then play nice to make their own lives bearable. That entire system is broken and it should burn. 

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Sol thewall Bamba

Sol thewall Bamba

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31 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

I detest Trump and I think KS blows with the wind on policy making and who he sides with. He is the representative of our country and any news conference with Trump he comes across as the kid who got the golden ticket at willy wonka and is almost in awe of him. Take Macron, for all his faults, he takes a much harder line with Trump - KS is supposed to be the opposite side of the political spectrum and his behaviour is cringe. 

 

I get the greater good comment, and I don't think we should sever ties with our greatest ally because some crook is the President but we don't have to bend over for him. 

What would you have done differently?

Tommy G

Tommy G

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1 minute ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

What would you have done differently?

Not be a cuck. 

 

Anyway - we've all been warned about too much politics so I'll end my point of view right there. 

 

It's warm today for September. 

Sol thewall Bamba

Sol thewall Bamba

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1 minute ago, Tommy G said:

Not be a cuck. 

 

Anyway - we've all been warned about too much politics so I'll end my point of view right there. 

 

It's warm today for September. 

I'm sure if a politician you liked signed that deal you'd be delighted with it, but that's politics in a nutshell.

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Dr The Singh

Dr The Singh

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49 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

Inflation is a mess partly due to ni costs but also a lot because food prices keep going up due to poor harvests, something happening more and more across the world now. You ain't changing that without taking prompt action against climate change.

Thats not my point CF, my point is directed at the hypocrisy our politicians show, and what your saying our politicians are blatantly lying out of there backsides.

 

To be clear Rachel Reeves, last month took credit for the interest rate drop and in credit lowering inflation....'my policies are showing that the economy is improving and lowering inflation, allowing the BOE reducing interest rates which will help many households.

 

Where is the witch today???

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Trav Le Bleu

Trav Le Bleu

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1 hour ago, Jattdogg said:

Unlikely to happen, but ready to punch my way out of it. Haha

 

Is it too early for me to enjoy an ice cold Molson Canadian? 853am..should I wait until 9am?

Ice cold is the way to drink it - lessens the flavour :thumbup:

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