General News Thread

[Trav Le Bleu]

13 hours ago, Tommy G said:

Presume it’s going to be tricky to express views on KS announcement…

Depends on if you're going to say he should brutally murdered I guess

[Trav Le Bleu]

8 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

I miss the old days ……….

You big bully!

[st albans fox]

57 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

You big bully!

All for effect 😄

managed to reach my sixties without ever throwing a punch at another person - is that unusual ???.

[Trav Le Bleu]

58 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

All for effect 😄

managed to reach my sixties without ever throwing a punch at another person - is that unusual ???.

First day of new school - find the biggest kid and flatten him. Skoolyard rulz!

 

Or, more likely, get flattened.

[bovril]

Absolutely love filling out all the paperwork now required to get a visa to go live in the EU while Nigel Farage vows to reverse the post Brexit migration surge. So uplifting.

[StanSP]

Reform to scrap indefinite leave to remain, even retrospectively, if they get into power. 

 

Insane proposal. 

 

For those that may have been here for decades, have 'integrated' into society and worked hard to make a living and contribute to the country and society. But they'll be caught under the net they're casting? 

[leicsmac]

Just now, StanSP said:

Reform to scrap indefinite leave to remain, even retrospectively, if they get into power. 

 

Insane proposal. 

 

For those that may have been here for decades, have 'integrated' into society and worked hard to make a living and contribute to the country and society. But they'll be caught under the net they're casting? 

There's never been any kind of differentiation (except for a very few demographic based cases) in terms of migration for them, whether "legal" or "illegal". This is just the mask slipping because they think they now have the polling power to let it slip. 

[StanSP]

6 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

There's never been any kind of differentiation (except for a very few demographic based cases) in terms of migration for them, whether "legal" or "illegal". This is just the mask slipping because they think they now have the polling power to let it slip. 

I hope it backfires for them... 

[Sampson]

14 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Reform to scrap indefinite leave to remain, even retrospectively, if they get into power. 

 

Insane proposal. 

 

For those that may have been here for decades, have 'integrated' into society and worked hard to make a living and contribute to the country and society. But they'll be caught under the net they're casting? 

Imagine telling people who’ve been living in the UK 50 years, worked here for decades and are drawing a pension, have been married to a British person for 45 years, have British children and grandchildren they suddenly have no right to be here as they don’t earn enough and have to leave the country and go and move back to a country they have no friends or family in, no pension, no money in their 70s.

 

As Farage is obsessed with the “how would you feel if your daughter was…” meme when discussing immigration, I’ll use the same one and say.

 

How would you feel if your daughter was married to a non-British person who’d been living in the UK for decades, working hard and paying tax and they had children (your grandchildren) and suddenly the government decided they no longer have the right to live here because they don’t earn enough or their pension isn’t enough?

 

This is the kind of stuff that breaks up families.

 

 

Edited 22 September 2025 by Sampson

[Dr The Singh]

43 minutes ago, Sampson said:

Imagine telling people who’ve been living in the UK 50 years, worked here for decades and are drawing a pension, have been married to a British person for 45 years, have British children and grandchildren they suddenly have no right to be here as they don’t earn enough and have to leave the country and go and move back to a country they have no friends or family in, no pension, no money in their 70s.

 

As Farage is obsessed with the “how would you feel if your daughter was…” meme when discussing immigration, I’ll use the same one and say.

 

How would you feel if your daughter was married to a non-British person who’d been living in the UK for decades, working hard and paying tax and they had children (your grandchildren) and suddenly the government decided they no longer have the right to live here because they don’t earn enough or their pension isn’t enough?

 

This is the kind of stuff that breaks up families.

 

 

I don't disagree with you but in that example I believe they would be able to stay, and get British citizenship.  I know cus have my cousins and family from the pooonjab have done this.

[bovril]

A very small part of me hopes reform get in and England sinks ever further into the miry depths. 

[Trav Le Bleu]

14 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said:

I don't disagree with you but in that example I believe they would be able to stay, and get British citizenship.  I know cus have my cousins and family from the pooonjab have done this.

Under Tory and/or Labour government.

 

Reform will look at things differently.

[Sampson]

18 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said:

I don't disagree with you but in that example I believe they would be able to stay, and get British citizenship.  I know cus have my cousins and family from the pooonjab have done this.

It’s not that simple - not every country allows dual citizenship - and then you’re asking people to give up their right to go and visit their families in their country of birth to do so - not to mention citizenship is as an expensive process not everyone can afford.

Edited 22 September 2025 by Sampson

[Dr The Singh]

2 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

Under Tory and/or Labour government.

 

Reform will look at things differently.

I think Reform will have to be very careful.  There is a large proportion of past immigrants (Indians & Chinese) that contribute more in taxes than the average white person and interms of skills greater still.

 

Those people start leaving........the country will suffer.

[Dr The Singh]

9 minutes ago, Sampson said:

It’s not that simple - not every country allows dual citizenship - and then you’re asking people to give up their right to go and visit their families in their country of birth to do so - not to mention citizenship is as an expensive process not everyone can afford.

Its not dual citizenship, you can apply for citizenship if your married to a Brit, I don't know the how long but its straight forward, loads of lawyers outthere thats there main income, not overly expensive, you can go to citizens advice buroeu for free to fill in the paperwork.

 

 For Indians for example you can apply for a OCI card which is gives foreign people of Indian heritage to avoid applying for visa's.  No need for dual citizenship.

 

Majority of Indians and Pakistanis first gen are dual citizens.

Edited 22 September 2025 by Dr The Singh

[MaidstoneFox]

2 hours ago, bovril said:

A very small part of me hopes reform get in and England sinks ever further into the miry depths. 

Once you open pandora's box though...

 

Personally, I've got a 'get out of jail' Irish passport if it all goes really pete tong.

[bovril]

18 minutes ago, MaidstoneFox said:

Once you open pandora's box though...

 

Personally, I've got a 'get out of jail' Irish passport if it all goes really pete tong.

Lucky you.

I've got a spouse and child with citizenship of an EU country which helps me settle there, but I'm not that confident that if reform get in and enact this plan a) there won't be reciprocal measures against British citizens in the EU if they try anything against those with settled status here, or b) we'll even be able to move back to the UK if we need to.

[Corky]

10 minutes ago, bovril said:

Lucky you.

I've got a spouse and child with citizenship of an EU country which helps me settle there, but I'm not that confident that if reform get in and enact this plan a) there won't be reciprocal measures against British citizens in the EU if they try anything against those with settled status here, or b) we'll even be able to move back to the UK if we need to.

Yeah, surely other countries will want to send our citizens back who have settled in those places, or at least make a stand?

 

Once again, ill-thought out pub table politics. The sort of thing Harry Enfield would have parodied years ago.

[Trav Le Bleu]

3 hours ago, Corky said:

Yeah, surely other countries will want to send our citizens back who have settled in those places, or at least make a stand?

 

Once again, ill-thought out pub table politics. The sort of thing Harry Enfield would have parodied years ago.

"Whilst I appreciate the affordable and reliable workmanship of European handymen, if they tried to move in next door, I'd be, 'Oi! Ursula! Noooooo! If you can't accommodate Bogdan and Marcin in your own house, then they're not welcome in mine. We can always get Bert and Fred in at merely twice the cost and do almost as good a job!'".

[leicsmac]

23 hours ago, leicsmac said:

Would you mind telling more on your line of reasoning, here? Intrigued. 

 

I know invoking Godwin is rather passe these days, but the parallels with mid to late 1930s Germany is a little bit scary given the power level they have over there makes it everyone's problem. 

...and the announcements yesterday regarding those on the autism spectrum look awfully like the crawl towards an Aktion T4.

 

Tick another box.

[BKLFox]

Whilst our mainstream media blew smoke up the UK & France’s hoops for potentially signing up for £trns in reparation costs there wasn’t a whisper of how the peaceful 1 of the groups were running riot in Italian cities, damaging property & battling with police, why is that you would have thought that would be major international news?

 

 

Edited 23 September 2025 by BKLFox

[Spiritwalker]

15 hours ago, StanSP said:

Reform to scrap indefinite leave to remain, even retrospectively, if they get into power. 

 

Insane proposal. 

 

For those that may have been here for decades, have 'integrated' into society and worked hard to make a living and contribute to the country and society. But they'll be caught under the net they're casting? 

It’s going to get busy where I work, half the shift will be deported.

[Trav Le Bleu]

25 minutes ago, Spiritwalker said:

It’s going to get busy where I work, half the shift will be deported.

And it'll be hilarious when they realise that we've brought up kids who only want to be pro-gamers and influencers.

[danny.]

Do any other countries have no ILR option? I'm trying to find if there are other examples of a rolling e.g. 5 year visa but can't find any.

[bovril]

1 hour ago, BKLFox said:

Whilst our mainstream media blew smoke up the UK & France’s hoops for potentially signing up for £trns in reparation costs there wasn’t a whisper of how the peaceful 1 of the groups were running riot in Italian cities, damaging property & battling with police, why is that you would have thought that would be major international news?

 

 

Are you talking about the pro Palestine demonstrations in Italy? Because that's been pretty widely covered.