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The Year Of The Fox

Martí Cifuentes

By The Year Of The Fox, in Leicester City Forum

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mozartfox

mozartfox

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1 hour ago, coolhandfox said:

Came on for news about the manager and stumbled on a grammar debate. 

 

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Surely ‘stumbled on TO a grammar debate’

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LinekersLugs

LinekersLugs

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1 hour ago, Stadt said:

Rolling xG and xGA chart from QPR's 2023-24 season.

 

He sorted their defence out immediately, in his first 7 games they conceded sub 1 xG in all of them (the chart is a rolling average so doesn't look like it on there. Ended up at about 0.24 xGD per 90 which would have had them 7th (on xGD) over the course of the season. Less good last season and his transfer business is pretty mixed but they haven't had too much to spend.

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Last season ??? 

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Philkeavo

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19 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

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I don’t get this reference to ‘paying his own compensation clause’. He is and has been on garden leave. This is a term used in UK employment contracts to describe a situation where an employee leaving a job—usually after resigning or being given notice—is instructed not to work during their notice period, but remains on the payroll. If he is still under his garden leave notice period, like in almost every garden leave contract I have drafted, he is simply forgoing the balance of his notice pay because he ending his employment while serving notice. A garden leave clause enables an employer to either stop the employee from joining a competitor immediately on resigning or (more likely in this case) pay the balance of his contract termination notice over the period of his notice.

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moore_94

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3 minutes ago, RedSoxUK said:

Why did he leave QPR / why was he sacked?

Was linked with the West Brom job and then something has seemingly kicked off with the higher-ups at QPR so they put him on gardening leave

 

Then this summer have decided to move on from him and brought a new manager in

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CloudFox

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14 minutes ago, Philkeavo said:

I don’t get this reference to ‘paying his own compensation clause’. He is and has been on garden leave. This is a term used in UK employment contracts to describe a situation where an employee leaving a job—usually after resigning or being given notice—is instructed not to work during their notice period, but remains on the payroll. If he is still under his garden leave notice period, like in almost every garden leave contract I have drafted, he is simply forgoing the balance of his notice pay because he ending his employment while serving notice. A garden leave clause enables ann employer to either stop the employee from joining a competitor immediately on resigning or (more likely in this case) pay the balance of his contract termination notice over the period of his notice.

It probably is a mix of the two. He fell out with their Director of Football, and was looking to leave (as far as I've seen), so they seem to have made an example of him. He was still contracted, but not allowed to join anyone else during his leave, over which they paid him.

 

The odd bit to me is that now QPR have a new head coach. I'm sure they announced Cifuentes had left "by mutual consent", which implies he's left with a settlement...so maybe he has to pay some of that settlement back, since he's being hired by a competitor? Otherwise I don't see how he would have to buy out anything, if he's no longer employed by them.

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mozartfox

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6 minutes ago, Philkeavo said:

I don’t get this reference to ‘paying his own compensation clause’. He is and has been on garden leave. This is a term used in UK employment contracts to describe a situation where an employee leaving a job—usually after resigning or being given notice—is instructed not to work during their notice period, but remains on the payroll. If he is still under his garden leave notice period, like in almost every garden leave contract I have drafted, he is simply forgoing the balance of his notice pay because he ending his employment while serving notice. A garden leave clause enables an employer to either stop the employee from joining a competitor immediately on resigning or (more likely in this case) pay the balance of his contract termination notice over the period of his notice.

I agree.  Normally the Employer pays the Employee to prevent the said person from joiningg another 'rival' entity for a given period of time. If MC agreed to pay QPR should he wish to cut short the grardening leave period, seems very odd. You would think QPR would be pleased to stop paying his wages, BUT it also beggars the question why they placed him in the position on the first place???  What is that alL about your honor??

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Buzzell

Buzzell

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6 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Was linked with the West Brom job and then something has seemingly kicked off with the higher-ups at QPR so they put him on gardening leave

 

Then this summer have decided to move on from him and brought a new manager in

The main question is is he any good?

Grebfromgrebland

Grebfromgrebland

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13 minutes ago, Philkeavo said:

I don’t get this reference to ‘paying his own compensation clause’. He is and has been on garden leave. This is a term used in UK employment contracts to describe a situation where an employee leaving a job—usually after resigning or being given notice—is instructed not to work during their notice period, but remains on the payroll. If he is still under his garden leave notice period, like in almost every garden leave contract I have drafted, he is simply forgoing the balance of his notice pay because he ending his employment while serving notice. A garden leave clause enables an employer to either stop the employee from joining a competitor immediately on resigning or (more likely in this case) pay the balance of his contract termination notice over the period of his notice.

Exactly he's not missing out on any payment as Leicester will start paying him.

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THEfox

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Last three managers we had (off the top of my head) with a QPR connection were Allen, Holloway and Sousa. Gonna be fun this if it happens. Hoping for an Allenesque transfer window. 

Philkeavo

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4 minutes ago, CloudFox said:

It probably is the a mix of the two He fell out with their Director of Football, and was looking to leave (as far as I've seen), so they seem to have made an example of him. He was still contracted, but not allowed to join anyone else during his leave, over which they paid him.

 

The odd bit to me is that now QPR have a new head coach. I'm sure they announced Cifuentes had left "by mutual consent", which implies he's left with a settlement...so maybe he has to pay some of that settlement back, since he's being hired by a competitor? Otherwise I don't see how he would have to buy out anything, if he's no longer employed by them.

Great points. I am sure that football contracts are different from standard employment contract and probably much more complex. His ‘mutual consent’ agreement could have included some additional compensation payment, but I am not sure I would advise anyone to sign an agreement that requires re-payment of a compensation payment on termination in circumstances that prevent that employee from taking up new employment. It might be simply a recoverable tax payment. Under 

Post-Employment Notice Pay (PENP), this is the UK tax rules relating to when an employee leaves their job and receives a termination or severance payment. 

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st albans fox

st albans fox

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14 minutes ago, CloudFox said:

It probably is a mix of the two. He fell out with their Director of Football, and was looking to leave (as far as I've seen), so they seem to have made an example of him. He was still contracted, but not allowed to join anyone else during his leave, over which they paid him.

 

The odd bit to me is that now QPR have a new head coach. I'm sure they announced Cifuentes had left "by mutual consent", which implies he's left with a settlement...so maybe he has to pay some of that settlement back, since he's being hired by a competitor? Otherwise I don't see how he would have to buy out anything, if he's no longer employed by them.

 

9 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

Exactly he's not missing out on any payment as Leicester will start paying him.

If it’s true then must be some clauses in his severance agreement if he takes a job whilst he’s still on gardening leave.  

LestaLad

LestaLad

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20 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Any more movement on this today?

We’re bound to hear something by the end of the day, whether that be a new name or that this is close to being completed. 

AKCJ

AKCJ

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2 minutes ago, LestaLad said:

We’re bound to hear something by the end of the day, whether that be a new name or that this is close to being completed. 

No doubt a tweet explaining how this deal is too complicated and that we've moved on to Paul Jewell who we are "long term admirers" of.

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