Ben Nelson

[Chelmofox]

1 hour ago, dmayne7 said:

People keep trotting this out and it's arguably true simply because he's played so much more than the others. Mind you, Thomas has been crap but he's probably made less big mistakes than Vestergaard which says a lot.

 

There's some weird cult around Vestergaard with some people on here. His distribution last time out was absolutely shocking and led to yet another goal but there's not a whisper about him on his thread?

 

As far Nelson, he should have been the player the team was built around so I can only imagine there was definitely something else going on.

Norwich goal. https://youtu.be/MHDxpRnHams?t=289

 

Annoys me that everyone plays the lazy option backwards and then into Vestergaard. He plays a sh1te (and lazy looking) pass to Ayew, and because we get caught out there is loads of space.

 

So the goal was caused by our need to play through Vestergaard, caused by Vestergaards crap pass, and because of the way Vestergaard plays the attacker had loads of room to work with. 

 

And apparently, this is the best part of what he offers.

 

[kiddo]

13 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

Norwich goal. https://youtu.be/MHDxpRnHams?t=289

 

Annoys me that everyone plays the lazy option backwards and then into Vestergaard. He plays a sh1te (and lazy looking) pass to Ayew, and because we get caught out there is loads of space.

 

So the goal was caused by our need to play through Vestergaard, caused by Vestergaards crap pass, and because of the way Vestergaard plays the attacker had loads of room to work with. 

 

And apparently, this is the best part of what he offers.

 

Thomas was free, why didn’t he just play it to him rather than Ayew who had players around him waiting to pounce?

[Aleksz]

15 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

Norwich goal. https://youtu.be/MHDxpRnHams?t=289

 

Annoys me that everyone plays the lazy option backwards and then into Vestergaard. He plays a sh1te (and lazy looking) pass to Ayew, and because we get caught out there is loads of space.

 

So the goal was caused by our need to play through Vestergaard, caused by Vestergaards crap pass, and because of the way Vestergaard plays the attacker had loads of room to work with. 

 

And apparently, this is the best part of what he offers.

 

Right, so he attempts to break lines playing a more risky direct pass rather than the short 5 yard sideways ball he's getting called for in here, Ayew is slow to it, and he gets called for that too? bloke is dammed if he does and dammed if he doesn't. 

[filbertway]

Just an awful way of playing isn't it. Proper grim. Even the worst team in the league knew that you just let Leicester gift you the chance.

 

Not just Leicester to be fair, watch the league one and two goals shows and see how many goals are conceded that way.

[LCFCJohn]

2 hours ago, dmayne7 said:

People keep trotting this out and it's arguably true simply because he's played so much more than the others. Mind you, Thomas has been crap but he's probably made less big mistakes than Vestergaard which says a lot.

 

There's some weird cult around Vestergaard with some people on here. His distribution last time out was absolutely shocking and led to yet another goal but there's not a whisper about him on his thread?

 

As far Nelson, he should have been the player the team was built around so I can only imagine there was definitely something else going on.

It’s about perceived playing football the ‘right’ way in general. Some fans can’t see past it.

 

Vestergaard, free pass for endless mistakes because people perceive him to be this amazing ball playing defender.

 

Maresca - yes was good for us and did the job and has gone on to better things. But are you allowed to point out actually, 11 defeats and goals conceded on a par with mid tables sides were actually pretty poor numbers? No, because it was Enzo and he played football the right way.

 

Hermansen - again, was very good for us, no grudge against the guy. But Stolarcryk has been criticised over and over for not being Hermansen basically. 

Sometimes, just sometimes, particularly defensive players have to do, you know, that job as well! And defensive stats in the context of that season under Maresca are just as important to note as the attacking ones.

[Richmondfox]

1 hour ago, Chelmofox said:

Norwich goal. https://youtu.be/MHDxpRnHams?t=289

 

Annoys me that everyone plays the lazy option backwards and then into Vestergaard. He plays a sh1te (and lazy looking) pass to Ayew, and because we get caught out there is loads of space.

 

So the goal was caused by our need to play through Vestergaard, caused by Vestergaards crap pass, and because of the way Vestergaard plays the attacker had loads of room to work with. 

 

And apparently, this is the best part of what he offers.

 

This hasn’t worked since Enzo, yet they try and repeat with little to no success for 2 season.

 

What’s also disgusting is Skipp.  He jogs back while Winks sprints, then when the player goes to strike he jogs away from him.  He could’ve clattered or stretched to try and put him off. Absolute brain dead player with the talent to match.  
 

It has come to a point where Skipp can’t be called a professional footballer.  I don’t mean this as a bon mot. The same for Daka being called a striker/forward.  

[Richmondfox]

1 hour ago, Aleksz said:

Right, so he attempts to break lines playing a more risky direct pass rather than the short 5 yard sideways ball he's getting called for in here, Ayew is slow to it, and he gets called for that too? bloke is dammed if he does and dammed if he doesn't. 

Break the lines by playing a slow pass into a congested area to Ayew. He could’ve just lumped it.  He could’ve hit it first time not stuttering until the angle was closed down from the press. It didn’t help the it was a boring pass from Ricardo under zero pressure to Okoli who has to power his brain on before passing. Bad habits from the defence and midfield. 

[Chelmofox]

2 hours ago, Aleksz said:

Right, so he attempts to break lines playing a more risky direct pass rather than the short 5 yard sideways ball he's getting called for in here, Ayew is slow to it, and he gets called for that too? bloke is dammed if he does and dammed if he doesn't. 

Watch it again. Vestergaard would have seen the Norwich player near Ayew and that player also anticipated the pass and was running before Jannick even passed it. Is a terrible ball to play at that moment. 

 

49 minutes ago, Richmondfox said:

This hasn’t worked since Enzo, yet they try and repeat with little to no success for 2 season.

 It hasnt worked since the first half of Enzo season. Teams worked us out in the 2nd half, which is why we started losing to Millwall, Plymouth etc. 

[Rubbersoul]

I’m just glad he came in and has looked fine after so many calls for him getting a chance. 
 

Absolutely ridiculous he was frozen out for so long.

 

Another poor bit of management from Marti. 

[Ric Flair]

Hopefully only a few weeks job this....

[dmayne7]

11 hours ago, Aleksz said:

Right, so he attempts to break lines playing a more risky direct pass rather than the short 5 yard sideways ball he's getting called for in here, Ayew is slow to it, and he gets called for that too? bloke is dammed if he does and dammed if he doesn't. 

It's such a low percentage pass though. And he did it multiple times in that match and got away with it. And you surely know that Ayew is going to struggle to get the ball even if it's a go pass (and let's not pretend he could have done much more with it).

 

It's just crap play. Attempting to suggest that it's some sort of chance to vilify him unfairly just makes you look silly and plays up to the cult of Vestergaard. Go and have a look in his thread and see how little stick he's had when he's made loads of mistakes or been partly at fault for goals. Quite the opposite of anything.

 

And the thing is, unlike Faes who is just utter crap, Vestergaard can and should be doing better at this level than he has been this year

[Aleksz]

21 minutes ago, dmayne7 said:

It's such a low percentage pass though. And he did it multiple times in that match and got away with it. And you surely know that Ayew is going to struggle to get the ball even if it's a go pass (and let's not pretend he could have done much more with it).

 

It's just crap play. Attempting to suggest that it's some sort of chance to vilify him unfairly just makes you look silly and plays up to the cult of Vestergaard. Go and have a look in his thread and see how little stick he's had when he's made loads of mistakes or been partly at fault for goals. Quite the opposite of anything.

 

And the thing is, unlike Faes who is just utter crap, Vestergaard can and should be doing better at this level than he has been this year

I don't disagree that he's a pretty average defender and makes mistakes based on his defensive ability, and that they have cost us. But for some in this thread to suggest Vestegaard only plays safe 5 yard passes and even when examples are provided that contradict it, knock him for it - that is just absolute waffle. He's the only defender we have that can play that pass in that particular clip regardless of whether the execution is off - I still blame Ayew being on his heels for it not coming off... it's the way he's being asked to play, he has that responsibility to be the outlet in building from the back. Okoli puts that particular pass into the away end. 

Edited 20 November 2025 by Aleksz

[dmayne7]

10 hours ago, Aleksz said:

I don't disagree that he's a pretty average defender and makes mistakes based on his defensive ability, and that they have cost us. But for some in this thread to suggest Vestegaard only plays safe 5 yard passes and even when examples are provided that contradict it, knock him for it - that is just absolute waffle. He's the only defender we have that can play that pass in that particular clip regardless of whether the execution is off - I still blame Ayew being on his heels for it not coming off... it's the way he's being asked to play, he has that responsibility to be the outlet in building from the back. Okoli puts that particular pass into the away end. 

I agree that suggesting he just plays safe passes is nonsense considering his passing ability is his main strength, though he is very guilty of slowing the play down too much. But you just can't blame Ayew for that rubbish pass. No player was getting that and keeping it under control. I'd expect such an experienced player to make a much better decision with the ball, but especially if you're having a very odd day with your passing as JV was. Funny thing is, Okoli's distribution was miles better than his in that game (not for a second suggesting he's not dodgy on the ball at best!)

[Dahnsouff]

Vestergaard.

He is a currently a poor defender on account of him being slow, lacking in decent awareness and is surprisingly quite weak.

He is, or at least was, useful from the point of view of distribution in the system Enzo created.

However. He is now older, as are most of his team mates, he is in a weaker side playing against better opposition.

We don't have an extra body at the back in Mads anymore.

He needs replacing, if it can't be Ben, then we need someone to urgently break through or get a replacement (loan or purchase) as I assume there will be further clearance at CB during the winter window.

 

[Stadt]

He's getting worse day by day as lumbering CBs tend to decline starkly and he's already peaked, playing him is a completely short termist - it's not even a good trade off.

 

 

We have to play Nelson and trust him, a new deal is imperative. It's also worth sticking with Okoli given he's got a long(er) contract and more saleable. I like Souttar but we'll have to see how he recovers and I'm not sure how balanced a Nelson/Souttar pairing is.

 

We have to shift Faes in January or the summer.

[Fox92]

1 hour ago, Dahnsouff said:

Vestergaard.

He is a currently a poor defender on account of him being slow, lacking in decent awareness and is surprisingly quite weak.

He is, or at least was, useful from the point of view of distribution in the system Enzo created.

However. He is now older, as are most of his team mates, he is in a weaker side playing against better opposition.

We don't have an extra body at the back in Mads anymore.

He needs replacing, if it can't be Ben, then we need someone to urgently break through or get a replacement (loan or purchase) as I assume there will be further clearance at CB during the winter window.

 

Vestergaard is shit, that will never change, he is slow to react to everything and he is slow as in cannot run. Really weak for a defender his size. 

He needed not giving a new contract but what a surprise another stupid thing we do.

Nelson should have much more than two appearances this season. 

[TheGoldenGod]

Mention of him being on the training pitch as early as next week - crisis AVERTED

[Ric Flair]

1 minute ago, TheGoldenGod said:

Mention of him being on the training pitch as early as next week - crisis AVERTED

 

19 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Hopefully only a few weeks job this....

 😉

[Rubbersoul]

11 minutes ago, TheGoldenGod said:

Mention of him being on the training pitch as early as next week - crisis AVERTED

Thank god for that. 

[moore_94]

Centre-back Nelson, on the other hand, was withdrawn at Carrow Road before the international break and missed action for the England Under-21s as a result. The Academy graduate is ‘progressing well’ in his recovery and the Manager hopes to have him back in training soon.

 

“It was very unfortunate for Ben,” Cifuentes added. “He did really well in the 30 minutes against Norwich and in the previous game. 
 

"It was an ankle issue when he landed. It will be some time but [he’s making] good progress. He’s working well and, hopefully next week, he will be on the [training] pitch.”

 

https://www.lcfc.com/pages/en/media-article/leicester-city-lcfc-foxes-stoke-city-scfc-potters-fitness-injury-news-jakub-stolarczyk-caleb-okoli-ben-nelson-victor-kristiansen

Edited 21 November 2025 by moore_94

[Dandy king]

Great to hear he's not done anything too bad. Get him in as soon as he's able 

[cropstonfox]

On 20/11/2025 at 11:05, Aleksz said:

Right, so he attempts to break lines playing a more risky direct pass rather than the short 5 yard sideways ball he's getting called for in here, Ayew is slow to it, and he gets called for that too? bloke is dammed if he does and dammed if he doesn't. 

Dammed slow and dammed useless!

Edited 21 November 2025 by cropstonfox

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

Outstanding today. Calm, collected and a solid presence. Like a Rolls Royce compared to Faes 

[Raj]

Top game today.

Good lad👏👏👏

[Lambert09]

He was the difference today. And in general when he’s played this season we’ve been better