EFL Refereeing Abomination Journal 25/26

[FoxesTez]

2 minutes ago, Bert said:

He’s still committed a “DOGSO” whether he played advantage or not. 

Edit: misunderstood rules - my bad. 

Edited 3 April by FoxesTez

[Les-TA-Jon]

Amount of times Preston obviously pushed players and pulled shirts and the ref just didn’t care - was incredible. 
 

the ‘DOGSO’ incident is tough for the ref, if he stops and gives a Red, then the crowd goes mental that Skipp isn’t allowed to run in on goal. 
 

And can it really be a DOGSO given Skipp does go on to have a goal scoring opportunity? 
 

having said that, if the guy lets Daka go, we’ve got Daka and Skipp vs Iversen and it’s a tap in situation. 
 

so feels like the ruling was correct but still feel hard done by somehow 

[Bert]

2 minutes ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

Amount of times Preston obviously pushed players and pulled shirts and the ref just didn’t care - was incredible. 
 

the ‘DOGSO’ incident is tough for the ref, if he stops and gives a Red, then the crowd goes mental that Skipp isn’t allowed to run in on goal. 
 

And can it really be a DOGSO given Skipp does go on to have a goal scoring opportunity? 
 

having said that, if the guy lets Daka go, we’ve got Daka and Skipp vs Iversen and it’s a tap in situation. 
 

so feels like the ruling was correct but still feel hard done by somehow 

Well yeah because Daka was otherwise in wasn’t he. 

[The Doctor]

3 minutes ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

Amount of times Preston obviously pushed players and pulled shirts and the ref just didn’t care - was incredible. 
 

the ‘DOGSO’ incident is tough for the ref, if he stops and gives a Red, then the crowd goes mental that Skipp isn’t allowed to run in on goal. 
 

And can it really be a DOGSO given Skipp does go on to have a goal scoring opportunity? 
 

having said that, if the guy lets Daka go, we’ve got Daka and Skipp vs Iversen and it’s a tap in situation. 
 

so feels like the ruling was correct but still feel hard done by somehow 

deliberately taking out the striker so it's a dcm going through instead feels like definite cheating that deserves greater punishment than a yellow for me, but that is a very subjective thing to try and judge - like of the Jordans, you'd rather James than Ayew get a similar chance.

Edited 3 April by The Doctor

[Les-TA-Jon]

12 minutes ago, Bert said:

Well yeah because Daka was otherwise in wasn’t he. 

 

12 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

deliberately taking out the striker so it's a dcm going through instead feels like definite cheating that deserves greater punishment than a yellow for me, but that is a very subjective thing to try and judge - like of the Jordans, you'd rather James than Ayew get a similar chance.

Yeah but DOGSO decisions don’t/can’t take account of the player who has the chance. Even if Jakub is through on goal and gets stopped, it’s a DOGSO. 
 

the point is, given the ball ran on and Skipp had a GSO, how can it, by definition be a red for DOGSO? 

[StanSP]

30 minutes ago, Stadt said:

I’m usually not bothered an iota about refereeing performances but that was abysmally bad. Missed so many obvious fouls. Mukasa particularly was pushed, shoved and had his shirt grabbed all game 

Their players were constantly and blatantly pushing players for aerial challenges. You wonder what he's watching. 

 

He missed a couple of other separate obvious fouls on Daka and Fatawu. 

Edited 3 April by StanSP

[funkyrobot]

Another ref issue today m was having booked the player for the foul on Daka, he still made Patson go off for 30 seconds. I thought that if the injury was a result of a booked foul, then the victim didn’t have to leave the pitch?  

[Stuntman_Mike]

If only people in the ground cared about their club as much as a bad ref performance 

 

Go ape shit over a poor decision, but applaud their own players who don't give a single ****.

[Number 6]

Ignoring everything around the performance of the team, it was a clear red. I hate VAR but when Champ refs have days like today it makes it difficult to argue against.

[JonnyBoy]

I don’t usually like it when players swarm refs but why weren’t they all going ballistic when Daka was brought down. Literally not a pair of bollocks between them. That red card could be the difference between us staying up or going down 

 

soft as shit and that’s why we will go down 

[The Doctor]

1 hour ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

 

Yeah but DOGSO decisions don’t/can’t take account of the player who has the chance. Even if Jakub is through on goal and gets stopped, it’s a DOGSO. 
 

the point is, given the ball ran on and Skipp had a GSO, how can it, by definition be a red for DOGSO? 

I get that they can't take account of the player, but fundamentally the spirit of the law is that you can't commit a deliberate act of foul play to reduce the chance you concede (take DOGSO for penalties, if there's no attempt to play the ball it's still a red card). Deliberate acts of foul play to change who has a chance, or to turn a 2 v 1 into a 1 v 1, with the intent of reducing the chance you concede, like that foul on daka, violates the spirit of the law. If the letter of the law doesn't allow the spirit to be enforced then it's a badly written law and needs changing asap.

[dooflip]

Regardless of the advantage being played, the ref could have still given a red card after the ball went out right?

the most obvious red card we have seen all season.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

Very bad. That one where Abdul got shoved into the lino and nothing given

[Tommy Fresh]

First half didn't really notice him being shit, but seemed to just lose control in the second half

[FrankieADZ]

ref today was awful to say the least, 

but the standard of officials within the whole country is completely shocking

 

casing point, the McAtee red card for Bolton today

[Les-TA-Jon]

Takes a few reads to parse but this suggests the ref was correct to only caution the player, when playing advantage on a DOGSO incident 

[jammie82uk]

2 hours ago, funkyrobot said:

Another ref issue today m was having booked the player for the foul on Daka, he still made Patson go off for 30 seconds. I thought that if the injury was a result of a booked foul, then the victim didn’t have to leave the pitch?  

Correct, it was part of the rule changes that are now abused by the keeper needing treatment 

[Corky]

Our players love to go over easily but today we had several blatant fouls not given. Fatawu being shoved over on the touchline the most.

[PhillippaT]

40 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

ref today was awful to say the least, 

but the standard of officials within the whole country is completely shocking

 

casing point, the McAtee red card for Bolton today

If it wasn't for bad standards, they'd have no standards at all?  

[Bert]

49 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Very bad. That one where Abdul got shoved into the lino and nothing given

Makes it worse doesn’t it? The Lino’s are shit scared to make their own decisions these days. 

[StanSP]

1 hour ago, JonnyBoy said:

I don’t usually like it when players swarm refs but why weren’t they all going ballistic when Daka was brought down. Literally not a pair of bollocks between them. That red card could be the difference between us staying up or going down 

 

soft as shit and that’s why we will go down 

Pretty sure they did once Skipp missed. 

[jayfox26]

Never seen the letters DOGSO used so much. Keith Laird would be getting a hard on. 

[NextPlease]

3 hours ago, Stuntman_Mike said:

If only people in the ground cared about their club as much as a bad ref performance 

 

Go ape shit over a poor decision, but applaud their own players who don't give a single ****.

Totally disagree, we don’t put enough pressure on officials to gain an advantage for our team

 

We have received at least one red this season because of opposition fans going mental about a challenge in their home ground 

[HarryTheGenie]

13 hours ago, JonnyBoy said:

I don’t usually like it when players swarm refs but why weren’t they all going ballistic when Daka was brought down. Literally not a pair of bollocks between them. That red card could be the difference between us staying up or going down 

 

soft as shit and that’s why we will go down 

We have been so poor in this regard for a number of years apart from a short while under Cooper.

[Stuntman_Mike]

He definitely got worse as the game went on.

 

There was quite a few times where players were being held and pushed over. The Fatawu one into the lino was unbelievable.

 

It was really frustrating when he asked for the quick throw to be retaken cus we were about a yard forward, yet almost every other throw was not in the exact spot the ball went out. Especially with players making up ground by walking down the line.