Leicester v Wrexham

[Pliskin]

                              Stolorczyk 

 

Ricardo        Faes        Vestegaard    Thomas 

 

                      Winks         James 

 

Fatawu                   Bobby                Mavididi 

 

                              Carranza 

 

Out of possession 

 

 

                           Stolorczyk 

 

          Faes        Vestegaard      Thomas  

 

 

                 Ricardo               Winks 

 

 

Fatawu     James              Bobby        Mavididi 

 

                             Carranza 

 

 

In possession. 
 

 

I know people will not want Bobby, however, 1 we still need some impact from the bench, at the moment I like Monga coming off the bench, he can change the dynamic of the game, and at this stage until he’s shown a bit more (and he’s only a kid) this is the best role for him. 
 

Bobby, at this level isn’t a terrible option, we simply can’t play Ayew or Soumare any longer. He’s fairly tidy on the ball and can act as a link between the two deeper midfielders. James has to play, and he can be used more as that heigh 8, lolling to drive from deep, very similar to KDH during Enzo’s season. 
 

 

[JJohn]

2 hours ago, Pliskin said:

From what I saw of them at the weekend, they’re all physicality and nothing else. They will press, run and try to bully but lack quality. However, Windass is handy for a goal or two given half a chance…. It’s clear as day we will need some pace at the top end of the pitch, if we play Ayew we will just see the same old struggle as always, I’d be willing to see Carranza given a go from the off, and hopefully Ayew on the bench…. Or even Daka, as I’ve said before it’s my belief his pace would occupy the defenders and allow our other attacking players to come into play. 
 

If we actually dropped Ayew and Soumare for James, and one of Carranza or Daka, we would win this comfortably. 

The problem is that Daka is so easily bullied. He falls over in a slight breeze. Carranza looks like he looks the foul too and may not realise the physicality that the wrexham defenders can get away with against him. we don't have that big dominant striker who can head a ball, that we've needed for years. Ayew may actually be the best choice here because he can sell a foul whereas the others can't. However we are terrible at set pieces, so not sure it matters.

[Pliskin]

8 hours ago, JJohn said:

The problem is that Daka is so easily bullied. He falls over in a slight breeze. Carranza looks like he looks the foul too and may not realise the physicality that the wrexham defenders can get away with against him. we don't have that big dominant striker who can head a ball, that we've needed for years. Ayew may actually be the best choice here because he can sell a foul whereas the others can't. However we are terrible at set pieces, so not sure it matters.

Respectfully I disagree re Ayew. 
 

There are two scenarios where Ayew’s profile benefits us:

 

1 - We are winning a tight game of football, and need someone to slow the game down at the top end of the pitch, and be a general obstruction to the momentum of the game…. Win cheap free kicks and run down blind alleys. 
 

2 - We are down to ten men, and need all of the above to stay in the game. 
 

Other than that, Ayew is of no use to us. This idea that he’s a “target man” needs to be binned, because he isn’t… What Ayew is, is a greedy footballer, who clearly thinks a lot of his own ability, tries to do too much and achieves nothing. 
 

If Ayew was a painter decorator, he would spend 8 hours unloading his van, and wouldn’t actually do any work. 
 

In this system we play, your ten has to be dynamic, they’re either a driving force powerhouse, who can drive beyond the defenders and act almost as a second striker or a nimble fleet footed player who operates around pockets of space giving and receiving the ball on the back foot and creating space for their fellow attackers…. As well as pulling defenders out of position. 
 

Ayew can do neither of those things, so he can’t perform the role of a 9 or a 10….. so he needs dropping. 
 

Bobby Reid may not be brilliant himself, but he’s certainly better than Ayew. He has the ability to play as a high 8, as he did at Fulham, as well as a right midfielder. He’s more nimble than Ayew and would probably get the ball out to our more effective players quicker than Ayew does. 
 

The preference would be Ramsay, but he still isn’t available, so we may as well try something different because Ayew is negatively impacting our attack.

 

As for Daka, we need to not think of him as the main guy, this league is shit, 99.9% of the defenders are shit, they’re slow, clumsy on the ball and are only really good for a scrap. They love players like Ayew, hate players like Daka…. Any amount of pace terrifies defenders, Daka could be a good foil four our wingers and advancing midfielders. So far James has proven to be excellent at driving through the lines with the ball, but because Ayew is ****ing useless he either clogs up that area of the pitch, or is occupying a half decent space but hasn’t the pace to exploit it. Daka’s pace would open up space, and would made defenders drop a bit deeper. Regardless of his ability he has enough on his game to trouble defenders, and he will score as many goals as Ayew won’t. What he can’t do, is hold the ball up and lay it off very well, but that’s where the 10 or high 8 comes into things, and a more dynamic footballer than Ayew would allow our front line to be a bit more fluid. 
 

Marti has to try something different, because the longer Ayew plays from the start, the longer this turgid run will go…. If you were a manager at a supermarket, and you had a really hard working, efficient staff member who always kept the shelves fully stocked, but repeatedly put the items on the wrong shelves, and even after coaching decided to just carry on doing it because it worked for them, you’d probably dismiss them…… or ask them to do another job……. That’s Ayew, he works hard, and is always on the ball…… but he does **** all with it and doesn’t help the team one bit. 
 

You’ll get no more out of Soumare and Ayew than we’ve seen, and what we’ve seen is a bag of bollocks, so why carry on using them? 
 

Id also be open to Page playing as a high 8 too.

Edited 28 September 2025 by Pliskin

[FoxTimmy2]

Just our luck, they'll be without Ward and Coady.

[Lambert09]

I’d just love to just screw it and start this

 

                         js

Ricardo.  Okoli Nelson aluko

               Winks. JJ

fatawu.      Mav.     Monga 

                Don’t care 

 

possibly hamza though as Ricardo probably shouldn’t be playing again so soon.  A shite out of form Mav, out of position  is still better than Bdr, ayew or soumare 

Edited 28 September 2025 by Lambert09

[CrazyKopCorner]

5 hours ago, JJohn said:

I advocate for this too. Yes Vesty is playing well (at his level) but these players are holding back the club's progression. 

Great point - we need to bring players through with a much higher standard of play even if they’re not quite currently there - these players are all total dossers and we know they are not good enough 

[Dahnsouff]

6 minutes ago, CrazyKopCorner said:

Great point - we need to bring players through with a much higher standard of play even if they’re not quite currently there - these players are all total dossers and we know they are not good enough 

So have less chance of winning games in the short term to win more longer term? Sound sensible

 

May need to draft in a more patient fan base first.  

[Gamble92]

1 hour ago, Lambert09 said:

I’d just love to just screw it and start this

 

                         js

Ricardo.  Okoli Nelson aluko

               Winks. JJ

fatawu.      Mav.     Monga 

                Don’t care 

 

possibly hamza though as Ricardo probably shouldn’t be playing again so soon.  A shite out of form Mav, out of position  is still better than Bdr, ayew or soumare 

In before someone says is Don't Care a new signing

[Sol thewall Bamba]

Only just realised this is a Cat A fixture! What planet are they on???

[Pita]

18 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Only just realised this is a Cat A fixture! What planet are they on???

😳😳😳

[MattFox]

18 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Only just realised this is a Cat A fixture! What planet are they on???

Our fanbase is definitely the type that will lap the whole Wrexham thing up though 

[Gamble92]

21 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Only just realised this is a Cat A fixture! What planet are they on???

 

2 minutes ago, MattFox said:

Our fanbase is definitely the type that will lap the whole Wrexham thing up though 

Or more it sums up the kind that KP are selling/giving tickets to

[CrazyKopCorner]

2 hours ago, Dahnsouff said:

So have less chance of winning games in the short term to win more longer term? Sound sensible

 

May need to draft in a more patient fan base first.  

No I think they’re just as likely to make errors  but Faes etc has been calamitous for years yet still plays - just ridiculous as he never learns anyone that runs at him he’s ****ed 

[LCFCJohn]

3 hours ago, Dahnsouff said:

So have less chance of winning games in the short term to win more longer term? Sound sensible

 

May need to draft in a more patient fan base first.  

I don’t think anyone is asking for a team of kids, or for changes that hinder our chances.

 

For me, I believe Page should be still in the squad, on the bench. There is room for a couple of kids on there when you can name 9.

 

The biggest controversy is Nelson. Given the errors we get from Faes particularly and Vestergaard who is just a poor defender in general, there is zero evidence to suggest that if Nelson had been given a run from the start, he would perform worse. It’s not like the senior players are covering themselves in glory.

 

I think the Nelson situation is not a usual one in times of chucking kids in given his experience at this level. 

[Clarkey123]

If people keep calling for Monga to start when we’re playing quite poorly, I fear it will become a case of too much too soon for the lad. 

[Pita]

29 minutes ago, Clarkey123 said:

If people keep calling for Monga to start when we’re playing quite poorly, I fear it will become a case of too much too soon for the lad. 

Some seem to forget he’s only 16. They got to give the lad a chance  to develop he’s going to make mistakes at some point 

[Trav Le Bleu]

3 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Only just realised this is a Cat A fixture! What planet are they on???

Planet Hollywood 

[MPH]

This is the one for me.

If we don’t win this one, I feel like I will want to start looking more closely at Cifuentes..

[CrazyKopCorner]

11 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Only just realised this is a Cat A fixture! What planet are they on???

Of course it is. ****ing Wrexham on a Tuesday night they’ll be queuing round the block. 
 

They really are cretinous toss pots 

[Corbee]

Got to get the win 

2-1 

With late winner coming still in the 90. 

(If it's in injury time too many foxes fans will miss it as they'll be on way home) 

[dayday]

19 hours ago, Pliskin said:

Respectfully I disagree re Ayew. 
 

There are two scenarios where Ayew’s profile benefits us:

 

1 - We are winning a tight game of football, and need someone to slow the game down at the top end of the pitch, and be a general obstruction to the momentum of the game…. Win cheap free kicks and run down blind alleys. 
 

2 - We are down to ten men, and need all of the above to stay in the game. 
 

Other than that, Ayew is of no use to us. This idea that he’s a “target man” needs to be binned, because he isn’t… What Ayew is, is a greedy footballer, who clearly thinks a lot of his own ability, tries to do too much and achieves nothing. 
 

If Ayew was a painter decorator, he would spend 8 hours unloading his van, and wouldn’t actually do any work. 
 

In this system we play, your ten has to be dynamic, they’re either a driving force powerhouse, who can drive beyond the defenders and act almost as a second striker or a nimble fleet footed player who operates around pockets of space giving and receiving the ball on the back foot and creating space for their fellow attackers…. As well as pulling defenders out of position. 
 

Ayew can do neither of those things, so he can’t perform the role of a 9 or a 10….. so he needs dropping. 
 

Bobby Reid may not be brilliant himself, but he’s certainly better than Ayew. He has the ability to play as a high 8, as he did at Fulham, as well as a right midfielder. He’s more nimble than Ayew and would probably get the ball out to our more effective players quicker than Ayew does. 
 

The preference would be Ramsay, but he still isn’t available, so we may as well try something different because Ayew is negatively impacting our attack.

 

As for Daka, we need to not think of him as the main guy, this league is shit, 99.9% of the defenders are shit, they’re slow, clumsy on the ball and are only really good for a scrap. They love players like Ayew, hate players like Daka…. Any amount of pace terrifies defenders, Daka could be a good foil four our wingers and advancing midfielders. So far James has proven to be excellent at driving through the lines with the ball, but because Ayew is ****ing useless he either clogs up that area of the pitch, or is occupying a half decent space but hasn’t the pace to exploit it. Daka’s pace would open up space, and would made defenders drop a bit deeper. Regardless of his ability he has enough on his game to trouble defenders, and he will score as many goals as Ayew won’t. What he can’t do, is hold the ball up and lay it off very well, but that’s where the 10 or high 8 comes into things, and a more dynamic footballer than Ayew would allow our front line to be a bit more fluid. 
 

Marti has to try something different, because the longer Ayew plays from the start, the longer this turgid run will go…. If you were a manager at a supermarket, and you had a really hard working, efficient staff member who always kept the shelves fully stocked, but repeatedly put the items on the wrong shelves, and even after coaching decided to just carry on doing it because it worked for them, you’d probably dismiss them…… or ask them to do another job……. That’s Ayew, he works hard, and is always on the ball…… but he does **** all with it and doesn’t help the team one bit. 
 

You’ll get no more out of Soumare and Ayew than we’ve seen, and what we’ve seen is a bag of bollocks, so why carry on using them? 
 

Id also be open to Page playing as a high 8 too.

So in a nutshell Ayew is shit 

[Pliskin]

9 minutes ago, dayday said:

So in a nutshell Ayew is shit 

Yes!

[deep blue]

20 hours ago, Pliskin said:

Respectfully I disagree re Ayew. 
 

There are two scenarios where Ayew’s profile benefits us:

 

1 - We are winning a tight game of football, and need someone to slow the game down at the top end of the pitch, and be a general obstruction to the momentum of the game…. Win cheap free kicks and run down blind alleys. 
 

2 - We are down to ten men, and need all of the above to stay in the game. 
 

Other than that, Ayew is of no use to us. This idea that he’s a “target man” needs to be binned, because he isn’t… What Ayew is, is a greedy footballer, who clearly thinks a lot of his own ability, tries to do too much and achieves nothing. 
 

If Ayew was a painter decorator, he would spend 8 hours unloading his van, and wouldn’t actually do any work. 
 

In this system we play, your ten has to be dynamic, they’re either a driving force powerhouse, who can drive beyond the defenders and act almost as a second striker or a nimble fleet footed player who operates around pockets of space giving and receiving the ball on the back foot and creating space for their fellow attackers…. As well as pulling defenders out of position. 
 

Ayew can do neither of those things, so he can’t perform the role of a 9 or a 10….. so he needs dropping. 
 

Bobby Reid may not be brilliant himself, but he’s certainly better than Ayew. He has the ability to play as a high 8, as he did at Fulham, as well as a right midfielder. He’s more nimble than Ayew and would probably get the ball out to our more effective players quicker than Ayew does. 
 

The preference would be Ramsay, but he still isn’t available, so we may as well try something different because Ayew is negatively impacting our attack.

 

As for Daka, we need to not think of him as the main guy, this league is shit, 99.9% of the defenders are shit, they’re slow, clumsy on the ball and are only really good for a scrap. They love players like Ayew, hate players like Daka…. Any amount of pace terrifies defenders, Daka could be a good foil four our wingers and advancing midfielders. So far James has proven to be excellent at driving through the lines with the ball, but because Ayew is ****ing useless he either clogs up that area of the pitch, or is occupying a half decent space but hasn’t the pace to exploit it. Daka’s pace would open up space, and would made defenders drop a bit deeper. Regardless of his ability he has enough on his game to trouble defenders, and he will score as many goals as Ayew won’t. What he can’t do, is hold the ball up and lay it off very well, but that’s where the 10 or high 8 comes into things, and a more dynamic footballer than Ayew would allow our front line to be a bit more fluid. 
 

Marti has to try something different, because the longer Ayew plays from the start, the longer this turgid run will go…. If you were a manager at a supermarket, and you had a really hard working, efficient staff member who always kept the shelves fully stocked, but repeatedly put the items on the wrong shelves, and even after coaching decided to just carry on doing it because it worked for them, you’d probably dismiss them…… or ask them to do another job……. That’s Ayew, he works hard, and is always on the ball…… but he does **** all with it and doesn’t help the team one bit. 
 

You’ll get no more out of Soumare and Ayew than we’ve seen, and what we’ve seen is a bag of bollocks, so why carry on using them? 
 

Id also be open to Page playing as a high 8 too.

This is well thought out.  I also think it's worth giving Daka a little run because, even if he f*ks up on the ball, the amount of disruption his speed could cause on the oppo defence could cause them to be spilling the ball which would enable our more gifted players (Monga, Fatawu etc) to seize on the ball in more open and dangerous areas.  It would enable us to attack more directly.  We are so ponderous at the moment and that seems to play into the hands of the oppo defences.

[Spanner73]

On 26/09/2025 at 22:20, frany104 said:

Lose this a Marti needs to be sacked

It’s all the Manager’s fault ! 

[murphy]

21 hours ago, Pliskin said:

Respectfully I disagree re Ayew. 
 

There are two scenarios where Ayew’s profile benefits us:

 

1 - We are winning a tight game of football, and need someone to slow the game down at the top end of the pitch, and be a general obstruction to the momentum of the game…. Win cheap free kicks and run down blind alleys. 
 

2 - We are down to ten men, and need all of the above to stay in the game. 
 

Other than that, Ayew is of no use to us. This idea that he’s a “target man” needs to be binned, because he isn’t… What Ayew is, is a greedy footballer, who clearly thinks a lot of his own ability, tries to do too much and achieves nothing. 
 

If Ayew was a painter decorator, he would spend 8 hours unloading his van, and wouldn’t actually do any work. 
 

In this system we play, your ten has to be dynamic, they’re either a driving force powerhouse, who can drive beyond the defenders and act almost as a second striker or a nimble fleet footed player who operates around pockets of space giving and receiving the ball on the back foot and creating space for their fellow attackers…. As well as pulling defenders out of position. 
 

Ayew can do neither of those things, so he can’t perform the role of a 9 or a 10….. so he needs dropping. 
 

Bobby Reid may not be brilliant himself, but he’s certainly better than Ayew. He has the ability to play as a high 8, as he did at Fulham, as well as a right midfielder. He’s more nimble than Ayew and would probably get the ball out to our more effective players quicker than Ayew does. 
 

The preference would be Ramsay, but he still isn’t available, so we may as well try something different because Ayew is negatively impacting our attack.

 

As for Daka, we need to not think of him as the main guy, this league is shit, 99.9% of the defenders are shit, they’re slow, clumsy on the ball and are only really good for a scrap. They love players like Ayew, hate players like Daka…. Any amount of pace terrifies defenders, Daka could be a good foil four our wingers and advancing midfielders. So far James has proven to be excellent at driving through the lines with the ball, but because Ayew is ****ing useless he either clogs up that area of the pitch, or is occupying a half decent space but hasn’t the pace to exploit it. Daka’s pace would open up space, and would made defenders drop a bit deeper. Regardless of his ability he has enough on his game to trouble defenders, and he will score as many goals as Ayew won’t. What he can’t do, is hold the ball up and lay it off very well, but that’s where the 10 or high 8 comes into things, and a more dynamic footballer than Ayew would allow our front line to be a bit more fluid. 
 

Marti has to try something different, because the longer Ayew plays from the start, the longer this turgid run will go…. If you were a manager at a supermarket, and you had a really hard working, efficient staff member who always kept the shelves fully stocked, but repeatedly put the items on the wrong shelves, and even after coaching decided to just carry on doing it because it worked for them, you’d probably dismiss them…… or ask them to do another job……. That’s Ayew, he works hard, and is always on the ball…… but he does **** all with it and doesn’t help the team one bit. 
 

You’ll get no more out of Soumare and Ayew than we’ve seen, and what we’ve seen is a bag of bollocks, so why carry on using them? 
 

Id also be open to Page playing as a high 8 too.

I agree with much of what you're saying here but I can't help feeling that the only reason that you're saying that Reid is of any use whatsoever is because you haven't seen hm play for a while.  Give it a couple of weeks...