FrankieADZ Posted 22 October 2025 Posted 22 October 2025 17 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said: Gary O’Neil, Tim Jenkins and Shaun Derry all available russell martin is free too all these people calling for him to go, who would you put in charge? and NOT Kingy
Happy Fox Posted 22 October 2025 Posted 22 October 2025 Just now, FrankieADZ said: russell martin is free too all these people calling for him to go, who would you put in charge? and NOT Kingy Michael Carrick? Ralf Hassenhutal? 1
Popular Post trooky Posted 22 October 2025 Popular Post Posted 22 October 2025 (edited) 28 minutes ago, daddylonglegs said: People are right to point to the shortcomings at board level but that doesn't excuse his selection criteria. The most offended I've been as a Leicester fan is Ruud picking Ward against Wolves, but for us as a fanbase to have to continue to watch Faes, Soumare, Vestegaard, Daka, etc stink the place out week in week out is getting to that level. It's completely unacceptable. As someone rightfully pointed out on Twitter, ultimately if the bloke was willing to pay £400k to come to this shower of shit of a football club, he was hardly ever going to be the man to go toe-to-toe with the board & the toxic players. Another completely avoidable mess. We're not a big enough club to let those players rot in the reserve until their contracts expire. As fans we need to be realistic, the last 3 managers have all played them with varying degrees of failure, and the next manager will continue to pick them until they leave because some are experienced internationals. Marti has inherited this squad, he's had 3 loan signings to strengthen which arrived at the end of the window. I'm not sure what is expected of him. With the exception of Nelson after 11 games everyone has had a chance to lay claims to a starting spot as he trys to find his best team from a toxic bunch. Edited 22 October 2025 by trooky 8
LiliansLeftPeg Posted 22 October 2025 Posted 22 October 2025 56 minutes ago, Noahfence said: I’m not even sure you can count Silko Thomas in this. He was signed from Chelsea and is probably only being picked because he’s one of the older “academy” players. I'm definitely including the "Mens Development Player of the Season" 23/24 as a graduate from our academy. We've played our part.
FrankieADZ Posted 22 October 2025 Posted 22 October 2025 Just now, Happy Fox said: Michael Carrick? Ralf Hassenhutal? yet people turned their nose up at both what happens if they go on the same run as MC? sack them too? the club needs some sort of stability *im more MC in than out 70/30 atm 1
Benji Posted 22 October 2025 Posted 22 October 2025 (edited) Team selections and some substitutions are grating on me, but I don't see how we improve by another change. Getting into a hiring and firing strategy every few months rarely works and he seems to have made good progress behind the scenes, particularly with getting certain players back on side. He has to be given time and then if results don't change by say end of January then fair enough, but no one is going to come in and turn this current group of senior players into world beaters. He's not immune from criticism though and the thing that worries me the most is that the style of football we were told was his philosophy, including high intensity, pressing and creating the space to consistently use the wingers (which were evident in pre season) are no where to be seen in the league so far. And this obsession with Faes/Jannik playing together is costing us points every game. I don't want him to fill the first 11 with kids, but there is no reason why as a minimum either Okoli or Nelson shouldn't be playing. And do we really not have someone coming through that can compete for Luke Thomas's place? Edited 22 October 2025 by Benji
Blueman1967 Posted 22 October 2025 Posted 22 October 2025 This is too early, and with players that are aready here, not his, and little time to sort out
Happy Fox Posted 22 October 2025 Posted 22 October 2025 1 minute ago, Blueman1967 said: This is too early, and with players that are aready here, not his, and little time to sort out With a pending points deduction we will be In a relegation / mid table scrap at best. Cannot see us making the playoffs with Marti In charge even at this early stage of the season. 1
Blueman1967 Posted 22 October 2025 Posted 22 October 2025 1 minute ago, Happy Fox said: With a pending points deduction we will be In a relegation / mid table scrap at best. Cannot see us making the playoffs with Marti In charge even at this early stage of the season. With points deduction, you are going to get less choice of who will want to come next, what has bother me abit, is we looked drained last few games, and only started playing 2-0 down yesterday, we need more youngters invold
trooky Posted 22 October 2025 Posted 22 October 2025 5 minutes ago, Benji said: Team selections and some substitutions are grating on me, but I don't see how we improve by another change. Getting into a hiring and firing strategy every few months rarely works and he seems to have made good progress behind the scenes, particularly with getting certain players back on side. He has to be given time and then if results don't change by say end of January then fair enough, but no one is going to come in and turn this current group of senior players into world beaters. He's not immune from criticism though and the thing that worries me the most is that the style of football we were told was his philosophy, including high intensity, pressing and creating the space to consistently use the wingers (which were evident in pre season) are no where to be seen in the league so far. And this obsession with Faes/Jannik playing together is costing us points every game. I don't want him to fill the first 11 with kids, but there is no reason why as a minimum either Okoli or Nelson shouldn't be playing. And do we really not have someone coming through that can compete for Luke Thomas's place? Dropping Okoli for Faes was a huge error IMO and he also needs to drop Thomas because he's been at fault for several goals in our losses.
Winstonthedog Posted 22 October 2025 Posted 22 October 2025 (edited) 2 hours ago, smudgerfox said: Can you explain how you think this works ? We pay their humungus wages whether they play or not...what difference does it make if we select them or not...? i can see the players themselves may become disruptive, they'll be fed-up about missing out on win bonuses, it could affect their international careers, and there's the humiliation of losing your place to a teenager... But the manager is perfectly entitled to point to the poor results and performances and say earn your place back... Just to take one example - our vulnerability on the counter is a repeat problem going back many seasons and if deploying the experience of Vestergaard and Faes is to have any purpose it must surely be used to find an on-field solution to this vulnerability. Yet time and time again opponents score near identical goals against us because half our defence is upfield and the rest can't deal with an opponent running at them ... If we could see Faes and Vesty pointing and organising the defence positionally should the worst happen, I could just about stomach their repeated selection.. But as it is, I'd rather see Nelson and Okoli developing a partnership for the future.., There's a lot goes on we will never know about ... but it does make a difference to the paymaster to have a 60,000 a week player sitting it out ... they want their money's worth ... those that are on their way out are not cared about a win bonus ... which from their body language is obviously very clear ... do they look bothered or angered when we concede... NO they don't....and that sums up the ethos of the whole set up TOP to bottom, there is also no stand out leader at the club to organise or encourage and dish a bollocking out .... Nelson and Okoli would be my pairing ... but they need to play and gel, read each others game .. not just play them a couple of games then bin it off ... take a look at those players on 50k + a week and tell me the last time you thought they were consistently worth it Edited 22 October 2025 by Winstonthedog Spelling error
Popular Post Ricey Posted 22 October 2025 Popular Post Posted 22 October 2025 Last night was on him, but the the main problem is the squad. I know people on here love the idea of him filling the team with academy players, but as we've seen with players like Page, sometimes they just aren't ready yet. He had to rotate last night because of Ricardo's, Carranza's and Ramsey's fitness issues, as well as Monga's age, which means to a certain degree he has to turn to some of the dross that should be long gone. However, he's going to need to find a balance between the two or else the fans will turn. Okoli for Faes is an obvious one, eventually look to bring in Nelson and even moving Skipp ahead of Soumare in the pecking order. Essentially prioritise building for next season, rather than players that don't want to be here and certainly won't be next season. 5
Happy Fox Posted 22 October 2025 Posted 22 October 2025 2 minutes ago, Blueman1967 said: With points deduction, you are going to get less choice of who will want to come next, what has bother me abit, is we looked drained last few games, and only started playing 2-0 down yesterday, we need more youngters invold Either the players know about the pending points deduction or they are not playing for the manager. 1
Richmondfox Posted 22 October 2025 Posted 22 October 2025 38 minutes ago, trooky said: We're not a big enough club to let those players rot in the reserve until their contracts expire. As fans we need to be realistic, the last 3 managers have all played them with varying degrees of failure, and the next manager will continue to pick them until they leave because some are experienced internationals. Marti has inherited this squad, he's had 3 loan signings to strengthen which arrived at the end of the window. I'm not sure what is expected of him. With the exception of Nelson after 11 games everyone has had a chance to lay claims to a starting spot as he trys to find his best team from a toxic bunch. He could try using tactics and the strengths of the players he has. Be a manager and a tactician.
EastAnglianFox Posted 22 October 2025 Posted 22 October 2025 Team selections have baffled at times but for me it’s the lies he spouts. Emphasis on youth he said, aggressive press to win back the ball he said, attacking football with intensity he said! 11 games in and we’ve seen very very little of any of that 4
Product of 84 Posted 22 October 2025 Posted 22 October 2025 I've seen a lot made of last nights selection- My take is we are supposed to have a strong squad. We've a number of games in quick succession following an international break where some of our players played. We are 11 games into a long season. He is clearly managing our squad rather than 11 first team players to ensure we are not hampered with injuries. And before we get into attitude of our players etc on paper the team selected was more than good enough and should have been fighting for their places in the team. I also like what Marti said. He was honest that the first half was not good enough and didn't meet the standards expected. Hugely disappointed with the result. Also bored of this squads players inadequacies. But sacking another manager is not the answer.
Ricey Posted 22 October 2025 Posted 22 October 2025 Sacking him just sets us back further. Another payout, no doubt another list of horrific replacements and then a new man coming in ready to give players another fresh start, just because of their 'calibre'. It will get us nowhere. 1
Happy Fox Posted 22 October 2025 Posted 22 October 2025 Put it this way QPR's replacement Julien Stephan could quite conceivably be above us in the league if they win tonight, that's quite damning imo, Marti is average at this level, but he hasn't been well backed due to PSR, and that's down to the incompetence of Top and Rudkin.
winteriscoming Posted 22 October 2025 Posted 22 October 2025 Whoever we replace him with won’t instantly bring the young players in. I wish they would but it’ll be the same story with someone else. If we do get rid it’s Hassenhutl for me. I’d love us to get Adi Hutter but there’s no chance he’ll come to us.
Muzzy_no7 Posted 22 October 2025 Posted 22 October 2025 1 hour ago, FrankieADZ said: russell martin is free too all these people calling for him to go, who would you put in charge? and NOT Kingy Not Kingy. Gary O’Neil and his staff are an option. Raul Hutter Fischer Mattarazzo Benifez Carrick
Lambert09 Posted 22 October 2025 Posted 22 October 2025 1 hour ago, Happy Fox said: Michael Carrick? Ralf Hassenhutal? I wonder if there’s a scenario where mckenna gets the chop at Ipswich first. He’d be worth a punt.
trooky Posted 22 October 2025 Posted 22 October 2025 46 minutes ago, Richmondfox said: He could try using tactics and the strengths of the players he has. Be a manager and a tactician. He is a tactician, but I'm intrigued as to what you think our strengths are
Suzie the Fox Posted 22 October 2025 Posted 22 October 2025 1 hour ago, Happy Fox said: Either the players know about the pending points deduction or they are not playing for the manager. Or they just lack in an overall footballing mentality. Apart from the odd exception, there just seems to be a lack of urgency or passion, until ofc the inevitable happens and we go a goal down. Thats how it feels to me anyway
Guest Posted 22 October 2025 Posted 22 October 2025 Increasingly disappointed with him. Feels like worst of both worlds stuff where we're not good enough to get promoted but neither are we spending the season consolidating and looking to the future. Whether that would be any different with someone else in charge, who knows. Sort of irrelevant because I think we're stuck with him anyway - things will need to get much worse than this, and the individual quality in the squad is such that no matter how badly we're playing, we will probably still fluke enough results to keep him safe. Exciting!
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