Cifuentes OUT

[winteriscoming]

I find him really lazy in his approach. 
He hasn’t improved 1 player. 
Reluctant to give youth a chance - took him 20 games to finally realize that’s what was needed at the start of the season. 
Kept the same system as last season. As if to say that’ll do. 
Should have banished the egos like Faes and Winks from the starting lineup. 
Should have set a benchmark at the start of the season with integrating the young players into the squad.

Gives off massive Steve Cooper vibes of negativity, laziness and devoid of any tactical flexibility in matches. 

 

[Fox92]

22 minutes ago, 5waller5 said:

This is where I have sympathy for Marty …. Daka should have been an outlet for a pressurised defence, a long ball that he’d latch onto. He’s so useless it’s astonishing, rarely did he get near to those clearances, and if he did it simply bounces off him to the opposition. I hate to say it, but Ayew is a way better outlet, and at least looks like he’s played football before

Don't put him on then? How can you feel sorry for the bloke who's job it is to make these decisions. It made no sense to even bring Daka on. If James is going off, then fair enough, but move Choudhury into midfield and bring Ricardo (or a right full back) on.

 

The manager is costing us game after game.

[Noahfence]

18 minutes ago, Gamble92 said:

Exactly this. We have fans who have become way too accepting that this squad should be around where it is in the table and it just isn't true. 

 

It's becoming a very obvious tactical issue now. Earlier on in the season he was actually showing some good signs he could influence games. He couldn't be any further from that now. 

 

BDR ending up in centre midfield as Daka was left to chase long balls that constantly fell to Bristol City was just asking for trouble. I have no idea what his gameplan was second half. It's really worrying he's tried to see out 2 games with virtually no attacking intent. 

The second half was honestly one of the worst bits of management I’ve seen from a Leicester manager. 

[TheStig]

He does seem to substitute with hope more than purpose. If Daka had scored it would have been regarded as a unconventional masterstroke from a forward thinking manager - but his substitutions are very rarely successful and always seem to expose our weaknesses rather than enhance strengths. One would suppose that King can see the errors and should try to advise or correct as they happen time and time again. Mindblowing really. However he won´t be sacked. Cannot afford it and who would want to come to a club in total disarray with a disrupted and non functioning management team and no structure?

[DJ Barry Hammond]

1 hour ago, Aus Fox said:

Subs were a little odd to say the least - JJ off Daka on was potentially the weirdest sub I’ve ever seen in a game of football 

JJ was clearly shattered and with no Winks or Soumare the options were either Page or Aluko at right back and moving Hamza.

 

The later eventually happened… but perhaps there was evidence of why Marti was reluctant to go with that change initially given I found Aluko to be a little too passive in his defending.

[Richmondfox]

4 minutes ago, TheStig said:

He does seem to substitute with hope more than purpose. If Daka had scored it would have been regarded as an unconventional masterstroke from a forward thinking manager - but his substitutions are very rarely successful and always seem to expose our weaknesses rather than enhance strengths. One would suppose that King can see the errors and should try to advise or correct as they happen time and time again. Mindblowing really. However he won´t be sacked. Cannot afford it and who would want to come to a club in total disarray with a disrupted and non functioning management team and no structure?

Correct assessment of him.  It would’ve made sense bringing Daka on if Ayew was missing chance after chance and we needed fresh legs and perspective. Putting Daka in and expecting him to do something with the ball with his back to goal hasn’t worked once. He kept the same play but added Ayew’s negativity to a role that needs the opposite, a position that Reid has made for himself. Using him limited skills and speed to get others in the game and in the box to finish. 
 

This is all in the manager.  He hasn’t improved any player, even above the basics the should be doing ie Skipp.

 

Wingers who don’t like to cross, run into space or pass the ball doesn’t help.  They need tasks drilled into the from the manager like Enzo did. Not this Sunday dad style letting the kids have McDonald’s and haribo so they like him. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

1 minute ago, DJ Barry Hammond said:

JJ was clearly shattered and with no Winks or Soumare the options were either Page or Aluko at right back and moving Hamza.

 

The later eventually happened… but perhaps there was evidence of why Marti was reluctant to go with that change initially given I found Aluko to be a little too passive in his defending.

Which what everyone wanted btw. 

 

We screamed "drain the swamp" for years and now it's almost done and we're wondering why we're bringing kids on and having to fit square pegs in round holes all over the place. 

[coolhandfox]

3 hours ago, Claridge said:

i’m not bothered either way as there is very little any manager could do with this squad. Just so weak physically and mentally.

Oh I don't know, maybe get them fitter, more structured and organised on and off the ball.

 

 

 

 

[Fox92]

12 minutes ago, TheStig said:

He does seem to substitute with hope more than purpose. If Daka had scored it would have been regarded as a unconventional masterstroke from a forward thinking manager - but his substitutions are very rarely successful and always seem to expose our weaknesses rather than enhance strengths. One would suppose that King can see the errors and should try to advise or correct as they happen time and time again. Mindblowing really. However he won´t be sacked. Cannot afford it and who would want to come to a club in total disarray with a disrupted and non functioning management team and no structure?

What has King ever done in management to make you think he can correct or advise the manager?

 

We have a management team of people that have achieved nothing.

[Aus Fox]

10 minutes ago, DJ Barry Hammond said:

JJ was clearly shattered and with no Winks or Soumare the options were either Page or Aluko at right back and moving Hamza.

 

The later eventually happened… but perhaps there was evidence of why Marti was reluctant to go with that change initially given I found Aluko to be a little too passive in his defending.

Surely Ricardo was the obvious change?

[DJ Barry Hammond]

1 minute ago, Aus Fox said:

Surely Ricardo was the obvious change?

He ain’t playing twice in a week now. He may have been on the bench, but he wasn’t going to be used.

[smudgerfox]

This is a transitional season and these kind of things happen in a transitional season. We are not going to get promoted and we need to ease out the old guard to make way for the new. 
A team built around the spine of Stolarcyk (I think), Nelson, James, BCDR and striker tbc will be formidable in Championship and may even make the step up. But for now we are not watching a fully grown team but one that's still to be born. 

[Aus Fox]

Just now, DJ Barry Hammond said:

He ain’t playing twice in a week now. He may have been on the bench, but he wasn’t going to be used.

That’s fine, but if he can’t do half an hour, what’s the point in putting him on the bench? 
 

[DJ Barry Hammond]

2 minutes ago, Aus Fox said:

That’s fine, but if he can’t do half an hour, what’s the point in putting him on the bench? 
 

Club Captain and lack of other viable options.

 

If it was a dire emergency he’d play… but your not going to risk him, it’s been that way all season so far.

Edited 11 December 2025 by DJ Barry Hammond

[Heart-Shaped Fox]

Can anyone who supports him actually tell me the formation for most the second half? The Daka sub for James was odd, and we just seemed to have bodies in any position towards the end. 

 

If Ricardo can't come on for ten odd mins he shouldn't be in the squad. 

 

Problem is with this manager is every time we have had the lead into the second half, this manager just sits back and wants to see the game out. Tactically inept 

[ian__marshall]

He seems a nice chap, but he's massively out of his depth. Only saw parts of the second half last night, but we looked a real mess. Shape was poor, mentality was abysmal , looked like the team had been instructed to sit deep and contain, fitness seemed miles off the pace, and tactically I have no idea what he was trying to achieve with those subs. Add in the fact that he doesn't really come across as someone who demands high standards, and it all indicates that he's simply the wrong man for the job. 

 

What irritates me the most is that it's glaringly obvious what needs to change and this league is horrendous this year. A half decent manager would have us flying. The squad isn't the best, but it's way better than the majority of others. What's missing is a manager who can manage, set standards, and get the best from the group. 

 

We need to make a change and make it quickly if we harbour any hopes of making the playoffs. 

[Gamble92]

57 minutes ago, Happy Fox said:

 

We are 7 points behind Millwall on what planet do Millwall have a better squad than ours, it's a disgrace mate, but anyway this is the new norm now to be on par with Watford 

Exactly this. Constant predictions we are going to get beat and I look at the opposing line ups and see 35 year old journeymen who haven't played in the Premier League for 8 years. It's a disgrace we are being gaslit into believing this is about where we are at. 

 

The amount of second chances this club has had and still could have if they got things just a bit right. It's a disgrace to have this budget and perform this bad. It's Man United levels of underperforming. 

[Fox92]

5 minutes ago, Gamble92 said:

Exactly this. Constant predictions we are going to get beat and I look at the opposing line ups and see 35 year old journeymen who haven't played in the Premier League for 8 years. It's a disgrace we are being gaslit into believing this is about where we are at. 

 

The amount of second chances this club has had and still could have if they got things just a bit right. It's a disgrace to have this budget and perform this bad. It's Man United levels of underperforming. 

I've been hammering this drum for months now and fed up of it. But people change their mind. "We should be going up" and then a few poor results turns it into "our squad isn't good enough anyway". Cifuentes is underperforming with the squad/budget/facilities we have. This season is a failure if we don't get promoted (automatic or play offs).

Edited 11 December 2025 by Fox92

[ClaphamFox]

3 minutes ago, Heart-Shaped Fox said:

Can anyone who supports him actually tell me the formation for most the second half? The Daka sub for James was odd, and we just seemed to have bodies in any position towards the end. 

 

If Ricardo can't come on for ten odd mins he shouldn't be in the squad. 

 

Problem is with this manager is every time we have had the lead into the second half, this manager just sits back and wants to see the game out. Tactically inept 

He claims that at half time he told the team to not sit back and instead go for a third goal, but he reckons the players’ confidence was knocked by Bristol scoring so early in the second half and they basically never recovered. If so, this is even more of a problem than if he’d told them to sit back—tactical mistakes can easily be rectified next time, but an inability instil any confidence in the players is a much harder problem to solve. 

[RedSoxUK]

Marti is a slow and frustrating decision maker,  and I don't see how he, Xavi Calm, Andy King, and the travelling analysts don't recognise that we're being dominated all over the pitch and drawing / losing would be inevitable without a change of personnel / shape - considering Bobby Decordova Reid was playing CM, well CDM effectively.

 

It's not hindsight I think it was obvious that we should have brought Aluko on to play RB, for Ayew, Ricardo on to play CM for BDR, and move Hamza also into CM, letting Daka,. Fatawu and Mav be the outlets. Any "ooooo Ricardo is being manager," **** off why's he on the bench then if not for this exact reason, what be can't play 30/35 ****ing minutes? Bollocks. Don't be on the bench then.

 

 

[RowlattsFox]

Every time I've read Marti's post-match comments, I feel he is correct but he's obviously unable to either see this quick enough in-game or isn't good enough to get it across to the players and change. 

Coming across more of a pundit than a manager. 

[5waller5]

1 hour ago, Fox92 said:

Don't put him on then? How can you feel sorry for the bloke who's job it is to make these decisions. It made no sense to even bring Daka on. If James is going off, then fair enough, but move Choudhury into midfield and bring Ricardo (or a right full back) on.

 

The manager is costing us game after game.

I don’t disagree entirely, and with hindsight it didn’t work. But if his thinking was to play in a more counter attacking way then the sub makes some sense…. Until Daka proves that he really is as useless as his worst critic suspects. Imagine Vardy coming on to do that role, the substitution wouldn’t have looked so bizarre

[Richmondfox]

7 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said:

Every time I've read Marti's post-match comments, I feel he is correct but he's obviously unable to either see this quick enough in-game or isn't good enough to get it across to the players and change. 

Coming across more of a pundit than a manager. 

Maybe he needs to sit in the stands to work out what’s going on. I find it hard to believe the people around him can’t see or give advice unless they are at his level, useless. Surely Andy King has an idea or two about how to get a ball into the box and have players ready to receive it. 
 

I think the confidence thing is just noise, he’s putting players like Ayew in central roles and expecting him to do something time after time. Our good passages of play and open play goals over the last two games have been when he isn’t involved in them. 

 

 

[Richmondfox]

1 minute ago, 5waller5 said:

I don’t disagree entirely, and with hindsight it didn’t work. But if his thinking was to play in a more counter attacking way then the sub makes some sense…. Until Daka proves that he really is as useless as his worst critic suspects. Imagine Vardy coming on to do that role, the substitution wouldn’t have looked so bizarre

But then that putting Daka on for a counter attacking style and having Ayew drop deeper negates the counter. Thats clear for everyone to see, apart from Marti. All it did was include another clown for JV to try and blast the ball to. 
 

I can’t understand how we played like the first half at Derby to then reset the next match, even though we all knew it would. 

[Gamble92]

9 minutes ago, 5waller5 said:

I don’t disagree entirely, and with hindsight it didn’t work. But if his thinking was to play in a more counter attacking way then the sub makes some sense…. Until Daka proves that he really is as useless as his worst critic suspects. Imagine Vardy coming on to do that role, the substitution wouldn’t have looked so bizarre

What would Vardy have done last night? 

 

We rewrite a lot of history with Vardy. I seen him have countless games like Daka did in his last 3 years with us. With probably even less pressing.