Cifuentes OUT

[Fear Of The Fox]

Just now, frany104 said:

He was the only person who sprung to mind…. Is he realistic though? Would he take it?? 

I agree! Let's get Ange in, another wannabe manager, another fraud who has absolutely no coaching and tactical skills. 

+1 for Ange. 

[STUHILL]

Steven Gerrard is on his way 

[moore_94]

Us or Southampton, who will go first

[Jazzy_Jeff]

I’m normally one for giving managers time but he’s out of his depth.

 

His persistence with under performing players and his reluctance to change the approach is baffling.

 

I’ve no idea what our plan was in the last 20 mins or so today, it appeared to be to chuck a load of attackers on and hope for the best. The frustration on the pitch was evident.

 

Whilst he didn’t have a pre-season there is no excuse now for the clear lack of game plan and understanding of the squad.

[Chelmofox]

Just now, Lambert09 said:

The reason he needs to go is that the solutions are available and he’s ignoring them. The pure energy we would get from Evan’s, Nelson and aluko would lift the club. 
 

I’m not sure how everyone can see that except him.  I’d be more patient if he’d tried these lads and they had failed in some way, like I can forgive dropping Page as he didn’t take his chance. 

Even though i would rather we were playing more of the academy i disagree with this.  Most of our fans are too happy to lay into the academy players (Stolarczyk is a recent example of this, but Page got pelters for not being good enough even though he is 17). Most of our fans (wrongly) think that our squad is head and shoulders above everyone else. If we had focussed more on the academy, and be sitting in the same position as we are now, I guarantee the moaning would be that if we had played more of the experienced team we would be in the top 4. Whoever he plays, if we aren't nailing everyone, there will be moaning if we aren't winning (quite rightly too). 

 

The issue i have now is there has to be wholesale changes. No idea how bad Ramsey's injury is but although he is talented, his fitness is poor and we know he is injury prone. This should get Page back in the fold, but all his momentum has been lost. Aluko and even Nelson would need time to get up to speed. This isn't what we needed after 12 games. We needed to be bedding the youth in after performing well - not hoping that they are going to change things. 

 

We are WAY off it. Horribly so. Fatawu and Monga looked like lost souls today, and everyone behind them was bullied off the pitch. We are so out of form and need something special to turn it around. I don't see what that is, even from the academy. 

 

I am going to presume that the pressure on Marti has been to turn the experienced players around after the RVN debacle, and he is now in the position where he has been let down by them.  If he goes to the board with exactly the same opinion RVN had, i can imagine that will go down like a lead balloon.  He has nowhere else to turn now, as the Academy wont fix this for him overnight - they will all need time.

 

Horrible.

 

 

[Trent Steel]

He's the one who said last week 'that was one of the worst half of football he's ever seen'

 

Well fvck me mate your the cvnt whos in charge of the way we play... what an idiotic phrase. 

 

Get the w@nker out now before we end up in a relegation battle ..

 

 

[whoareyaaa]

Just now, Fear Of The Fox said:

I agree! Let's get Ange in, another wannabe manager, another fraud who has absolutely no coaching and tactical skills. 

+1 for Ange. 

He plays attacking football though, imagine Ange with our defence  

[Gazza M]

If we replace him, new manager needs to be given the option to build and not have to shoehorn in these overpaid duds. 

[Guppys Love Child]

2 minutes ago, STUHILL said:

Steven Gerrard is on his way 

Please god no.....

[Fear Of The Fox]

Just now, whoareyaaa said:

He plays attacking football though, imagine Ange with our defence  

Imagine having someone like Ange with no strikers and 2 CBs with a combined 10 IQ. What could go wrong? 

[Filbert Fireworks]

Objectively we set a new premier league record for successive losses last season. Plus not scoring at home. 

We then lost our talisman Vardy alongside Ndidi, Mavs plus Justin who honestly wasn't much worse than Thomas. 

A number of players not wanting to stay but did. Financial trouble with the league.

Only managed a couple of loans in the window. 

 

Absolutely nothing at all there to suggest we should be top of the championship. 

 

Our squad isn't good enough. We can't control games like we could last time. 

 

We also haven't got a striker. 1goal in 14 games from our striker options.  We have played really well for spells and today we didn't play terribly. Both this week and last week were pushing for a goal at the end and had some (not enough but some) genuine chances. 

 

Thomas just isn't good enough but neither is VK so what do you do?

Monga is starting he's 16. Silko came on but people still scream for the acedemy. 

 

Ramsey has been our best player last 2 games he's started and scored in both until the injury today. 

JJ has also been fairly decent so Marti can pick a player on a budget.

 

I agree we should have turned some of those draws into victories but we can't have an overall poor squad with a handful of good players and then berate Marti when we don't win away from home at the Den. When exactly have we done well there before. 

 

The issues leading up to now lie squarely with Top, Rudkin and the board. 

 

Thinking the manager is the issue here and it will be a different outcome if only it was Dyche (Dyche honestly) etc is wishful thinking.

 

Leicester - the established premier league, european playing team is dead.

 

The odd player we have left from that era were bench fodder at best. Hamza, Thomas. Ricardo (last one left but over the hill and wounded) 

The revival is going to take time and patience and saying marti out after 12 or whatever games isn't helpful at all. 

 

We have to accept the new reality. Our squad sits somewhere between mid table and the play off's of the championship. 

 

Edited 25 October 2025 by Filbert Fireworks

[coolhandfox]

4 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Us or Southampton, who will go first

Based on the last 12 months Southampton as we will not want to pay out compensation.

[ceebeefox]

10 minutes ago, Fear Of The Fox said:

If the issue is money I'm available for pennies and I can get us promoted if this is what the board wants. 

I'm the Simeone manager style so some of our current players are gonna start crying in the dressing room and quit. I'll give them the option to leave the team or, even better, quit the sport altogether. I'm gonna be a fair manager. 

Love Simeone teams, the only ones that play 4-4-2. / 4-4-1-1 in Europe it seems. Bring it back!!!

[JimJams]

1 minute ago, Gazza M said:

If we replace him, new manager needs to be given the option to build and not have to shoehorn in these overpaid duds. 

But you say that as though that option hasn't been given to Cifuentes.  And if that is the case, then rather than bring in someone new, just drop it from his remit.  You're implying that Marti has been told he has to put these players in the side.  If that's the case, why would that change for someone new?

[MPH]

 

I just don’t know what the alternative is?

 

 

as a fanbase, we seem to want this dynamic manager who’s full of ideas and intuition…. But why would a manager like that want to come to us?

 

we are a very average team sitting in mid table and a points deduction hanging over us.

 

besides, we’ve got crap players  who are full of mistakes and egos  and why would any manager with a bit of ability want to walk into this mess?

 

 

unless we promise a manager 50m to spend in January, no one decent will touch us with a barge pole…

[murphy]

3 minutes ago, Gazza M said:

If we replace him, new manager needs to be given the option to build and not have to shoehorn in these overpaid duds. 

So why not give Marti that option?

 

As bad as he has been, I don't see anything to be gained from sacking him.  Our problems run much deeper.

[ceebeefox]

5 minutes ago, Guppys Love Child said:

Please god no.....

We’d have said that if we’d gone for Lampard last year, look at him now.

[FoxinNotts]

We won't bee sacking him any time soon. Get a fooking grip, people!

[Nods]

Just don't understand how he can implement 3 at the back to chase games, see how much better we look in that shape, and not adopt it as our starting formation. 

 

Don't really have a viable defensive midfielder? Great, more solidity in the middle with 3 centre halves. 

 

One of our centre halves makes one of their inevitable errors? Great, you've more cover in the middle. 

 

Struggling to create? Great, we'd have an extra man in midfield to create space by default.

 

Full backs your worst players? Great, you can drop them. 

 

Can't be any worse, and we've seen evidence that it does work. 

 

Genuinely what is the point in Thomas and Choudhury? They're a waste of a starting spot. Even Pereira isn't what he was defensively. Use him as an 8, where he was so effective the last time we were in this league.

[st albans fox]

If we hang on till Xmas, dyche may be available ………

[Fear Of The Fox]

In all seriousness, because unfortunately the board will not offer me the job, we need a feisty manager, someone who won't hesitate to show the exit door to a dozen of these footballers and start rebuilding by playing youngsters. We have nothing to lose as it stands. At least the young ones will show more passion than these sad failures we have now. 

[whoareyaaa]

13 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

Even though i would rather we were playing more of the academy i disagree with this.  Most of our fans are too happy to lay into the academy players (Stolarczyk is a recent example of this, but Page got pelters for not being good enough even though he is 17). Most of our fans (wrongly) think that our squad is head and shoulders above everyone else. If we had focussed more on the academy, and be sitting in the same position as we are now, I guarantee the moaning would be that if we had played more of the experienced team we would be in the top 4. Whoever he plays, if we aren't nailing everyone, there will be moaning if we aren't winning (quite rightly too). 

 

The issue i have now is there has to be wholesale changes. No idea how bad Ramsey's injury is but although he is talented, his fitness is poor and we know he is injury prone. This should get Page back in the fold, but all his momentum has been lost. Aluko and even Nelson would need time to get up to speed. This isn't what we needed after 12 games. We needed to be bedding the youth in after performing well - not hoping that they are going to change things. 

 

We are WAY off it. Horribly so. Fatawu and Monga looked like lost souls today, and everyone behind them was bullied off the pitch. We are so out of form and need something special to turn it around. I don't see what that is, even from the academy. 

 

I am going to presume that the pressSure on Marti has been to turn the experienced players around after the RVN debacle, and he is now in the position where he has been let down by them.  If he goes to the board with exactly the same opinion RVN had, i can imagine that will go down like a lead balloon.  He has nowhere else to turn now, as the Academy wont fix this for him overnight - they will all need time.

 

Horrible.

 

 

Spot on.

[JonnyBoy]

14 minutes ago, Guppys Love Child said:

I like his attacking ethos... 

 

But not with our current options.  We can't score under Marti, and I fear that would continue under Ange.   

 

But I like him as a manager, but not right for us at present 

Ange wouldn’t touch us with a barge pole so I don’t think we will have that worry 

 

**** me there are some proper tinted specs on this forum 

[Nods]

9 minutes ago, Filbert Fireworks said:

Objectively we set a new premier league record for successive losses last season. Plus not scoring at home. 

We then lost our talisman Vardy alongside Ndidi, Mavs plus Justin who honestly wasn't much worse than Thomas. 

A number of players not wanting to stay but did. Financial trouble with the league.

Only managed a couple of loans in the window. 

 

Absolutely nothing at all there to suggest we should be top of the championship. 

 

Our squad isn't good enough. We can't control games like we could last time. 

 

We also haven't got a striker. 1goal in 14 games from our striker options.  We have played really well for spells and today we didn't play terribly. Both this week and last week were pushing for a goal at the end and had some (not enough but some) genuine chances. 

 

Thomas just isn't good enough but neither is VK so what do you do?

Monga is starting he's 16. Silko came on but people still scream for the acedemy. 

 

Ramsey has been our best player last 2 games he's started and scored in both until the injury today. 

JJ has also been fairly decent so Marti can pick a player on a budget.

 

I agree we should have turned some of those draws into victories but we can't have an overall poor squad with a handful of good players and then berate Marti when we don't win away from home at the Den. When exactly have we done well there before. 

 

The issues leading up to now lie squarely with Top, Rudkin and the board. 

 

Thinking the manager is the issue here and it will be a different outcome if only it was Dyche (Dyche honestly) etc is wishful thinking.

 

Leicester - the established premier league, european playing team is dead.

 

The odd player we have left from that era were bench fodder at best. Hamza, Thomas. Ricardo (last one left but over the hill and wounded) 

The revival is going to take time and patience and saying marti out after 12 or whatever games isn't helpful at all. 

 

We have to accept the new reality. Our squad sits somewhere between mid table and the play off's of the championship. 

 

Do agree with the sentiment of this, though. It feels like a lot of fans are only now cottoning on to the damage that has been done. Those watching closely saw the makings of today's reality years ago. 

 

Even so, play 3 at the back please, Marti!!

[Tielemans63]

We have undoubtedly got huge issues, but he's paid to find solutions to problems and he isn't finding any. That's the brutal reality of it imho