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Posted
3 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Pearson got more than 12 games though

Because he ground out enough results (in league one) before finding a rhythm in about mid November.

 

First rule of management. Win.

 

 

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23 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

Because he ground out enough results (in league one) before finding a rhythm in about mid November.

 

First rule of management. Win.

 

 

We are in the championship and its only been 12 games and the window has seen us lose all our good players

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Changing the manager won't change things. The whole club needs a revamp, Top needs to sell, the first person out that door should be Rudkin. The whole ethos needs to change. The players are self entitled and a lot of the egotistical with no reason to be so. The whole seagrave situation is bitter sweet, yes we bring in some great talent through the academy but the senior players see it as a luxury resort where they can play a bit of head tennis, table tennis, darts, go for a nice swim, get a state of the art massage and treatment. I'm done with the hierarchy. The whole culture needs to change. 

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20 minutes ago, Walshy5 said:

Starting to think we should've stuck with Ruud! I know.....

Ruud who played BDCR on the wing, benched Buonanotte and banished our best midfielder Winks. He was an absolute disaster. At least Cifuentes is trying to play his most talented players regularly. 

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29 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

Because he ground out enough results (in league one) before finding a rhythm in about mid November.

 

First rule of management. Win.

 

 

I thought it was to play the academy?

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Problem for Marti is ... he has far to many players who think they are to good for the club and the championship .... well for any of you read this let me tell you ... YOUR NOT ... Marti must only pick players who he can influence and listen to him.... and only then can he be judged 

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28 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

Because he ground out enough results (in league one) before finding a rhythm in about mid November.

 

First rule of management. Win.

 

 

He needs 5 games, no 10, 12, 15, 20, 25, actually give him the season. 
 

No standards mean the fanbase are fine with their own redlines crossed time and time again. We’re genuinely an incredibly lenient fanbase and some on here think we’re Ultras Sur for expecting a frisson of competence. 
 

Staggeringly few managers in the modern game start badly and turn it around - citing Ferguson or O’Neil examples are extreme survivorship bias cases.

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Everyone knows a reset is needed, but some idiots think it can be done in one window and a couple of months.  Give him the season then reevaluate 

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3 minutes ago, Stadt said:

He needs 5 games, no 10, 12, 15, 20, 25, actually give him the season. 
 

No standards mean the fanbase are fine with their own redlines crossed time and time again. We’re genuinely an incredibly lenient fanbase and some on here think we’re Ultras Sur for expecting a frisson of competence. 
 

Staggeringly few managers in the modern game start badly and turn it around - citing Ferguson or O’Neil examples are extreme survivorship bias cases.

most managers get a season, look at Man United they are turning it around now after sticking with there manager.

 

you need to look at the bigger picture we need at least two transfer windows before we see any change don't matter who the manager is, you can't polish a turd.

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2 hours ago, beepee1984 said:

Realistically who on that list actually wants to come to a club that is consistently mismanaged, full of players who won’t play and almost guaranteed to get the blame and sacked within 12 months 

completely agree, but Top won't sack as he shown too many times. A success this season would be remaining in this division rather than league 1 (I'm assuming we get a points deduction of 6 or more pts)

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Not that I think he’ll come to us but Mark Robins is someone we should be looking at. 
Majority of what Cov are doing now is down to him not Lampard. 

Doing well at Stoke and if he was foreign he’d be more highly regarded. 


 

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Realistically we dont have the money to get rid. We may be about to hit a mid table fight, or bottom half if we ended up with a point deduction, but we couldn't buy a striker in 3 months, you think we can pull manager severance and buyout money out our arse? 

 

I am at the point of accepting we are in for some mediocre seasons for a good while. I miss seasons with no drama!

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51 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

most managers get a season, look at Man United they are turning it around now after sticking with there manager.

 

you need to look at the bigger picture we need at least two transfer windows before we see any change don't matter who the manager is, you can't polish a turd.

And however many million? 
 

The manager is extremely important in a rebuild and Cifuentes’ teams don’t score enough because the style of play is too blunt. Giving him 2 years will be 2 wasted years.

 

Good managers hit the ground running.

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2 minutes ago, Stadt said:

And however many million? 
 

The manager is extremely important in a rebuild and Cifuentes’ teams don’t score enough because the style of play is too blunt. Giving him 2 years will be 2 wasted years.

 

Good managers hit the ground running.

He wants to play high intensity but we dont have the players for that

 

Nuno has not hit the ground running 

Posted
2 hours ago, whoareyaaa said:

most managers get a season, look at Man United they are turning it around now after sticking with there manager.

 

you need to look at the bigger picture we need at least two transfer windows before we see any change don't matter who the manager is, you can't polish a turd.

Amorim is nothing like Cifuentes though, chances are with some backing Amorim was likely to improve 

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