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STATS - Do we have the worst frontline in England? [spoiler: almost]

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Posted
3 minutes ago, majaco said:

We are better than Cheltenham.  We are massive.

Do not tempt me to do an 'all competitions' list lol

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Posted

I hope that the dummies that were handing out 8 out of 10s for the last transfer window can now see the absolute negligence by the club in  leaving us in this position

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Posted (edited)
31 minutes ago, OntarioFox said:

I've been meaning to do this for the longest while as our recognised strikers continue to embarrass us - I wanted to ask the question - do Leicester City have the most ineffective striking options in England?

Now seems like a good enough time to crunch the numbers - we're three months into the season and, with the exception of the Prem, every team has played at least 10 games.

 

A few points to make before revealing where we stand:

 

  • For the sake of the stats, and to allow a fairly even playing field, I've counted league goals only for the top four leagues in England - since there's a chance for teams in Europe and the cups to pad their stats otherwise. This is purely the bread and butter stats.
  • The grey area is what constitutes a striker in the modern day - a number of sides, ourselves included, have notable contributions from attack-minded wingers. But that's not the issue we've been highlighting - it's our recognised Centre Forwards. So, for this analysis, I've counted goals only from recognised Centre Forwards, or in some rare cases players listed by Transfermarkt as Second Strikers, as opposed to Attacking Midfielders.
  • As you can guess, there are multiple teams tied on the same (pathetic) number of goals. Where this happened, I have ranked them firstly on games played, then on league / pyramid position. As it turned out, coincidentally these two stats gave the same results regardless of which way around I ranked them.

 

So enough rambing. And, as you could well guess, our position is an embarrassment...

 

 

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We officially have the second worst frontline in England, beaten only by Cheltenham Town who have played two more games than us and still only managed a single goal. For reference, they sit 21st in League Two. Our single goal so far came from Jordan Ayew.
 

I crunched the numbers for all 92 teams, and as well as making for miserable reading, there were a few interesting outliers:

  • Coventry, depressingly, are runaway leaders for the most lethal strike force, with 19 between them in 12 games (Thomas-Asante x9, Wright x8, Simms x2)
  • Haaland remains a beast for Man City with 11 goals. That is every goal scored by a recognised striker for Man City this season.
  • Only two Second Strikers made the chart - Cunha for Man Utd. and McAtee for Bolton
  • Gillingham have arguably the most strength in depth in the pyramid - six of their recognised Centre Forwards have scored league goals this season
  • Barrow AFC are the only club out of 92 whose leading goalscorer is a Centre Back - Lewis Shipley has 3 goals so far.

 

We're actually very lucky that we're just counting league goals by the way. Tom Taylor's goal for Cheltenham in the EFL Trophy would actually mean they've got TWO goals from Centre Forwards. None of ours scored in the cup.

 

So yeah, you're not imagining it. Our frontline really is that bad! lol

 

Have been wondering this myself recently. I've not bothered looking because Leicester City have stripped all energy from me caring. You could say I'm the research equivalent of an lcfc striker. 

 

One thing you may wish to add (?!) is value for money. With combined wages of approx £200k p/w, I'm sure an even stronger case could be made (for what, i'm not sure). I'd imagine Cheltenham's forwards earn about that across the season?

 

Anyway, great job everyone at lcfc. Players, scouts, directors, coaches and managers all included. You're all ****ing woeful at your jobs. Xoxo

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Cremonese is playing with 2 strikers, Vardy is one of them and he's also starting games in Serie A. We have zero (0) strikers. Daka and Ayew aren't even footballers to be qualified as strikers for the sport. 

Every single member of the scouting, recruitment and coaching team must be fired immediately and also investigated for potential fraud. They're all probably huge Forest fans. 

It's like opening a pizza restaurant and serving just Haribo instead of pizza. This is the state of our team. The mismanagement is monumental. 

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The lack of service is the problem. How many sitters have we missed? Carranza at Swansea when we 3-1 up is about the only one.

Posted
3 hours ago, Dan said:

The Leicester Cheltenham alliance is back in the way nobody was hoping for.

Leicester Cheltenham Alliance?  Are they a building society and would they like to be the next shirt sponsor? :P 

Posted
40 minutes ago, PhillippaT said:

Leicester Cheltenham Alliance?  Are they a building society and would they like to be the next shirt sponsor? :P 

The good old Alliance and Leicester days. How far we have gone sponsorship wise since.

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Posted
3 hours ago, Stadt said:

The lack of service is the problem. How many sitters have we missed? Carranza at Swansea when we 3-1 up is about the only one.

It does seem that, instead of trying to put a striker in, our wingers and midfielders are more inclined to have (usually speculative) shots from outside the box.

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17 hours ago, Stadt said:

The lack of service is the problem. How many sitters have we missed? Carranza at Swansea when we 3-1 up is about the only one.

Is it? Or are our strikers just not getting in the right positions and making the right runs.

When you have a striker missing lots of chances it’s obvious, but you know it will come because they’re doing everything else right. Our guys just aren’t where they need to be.

Take Luke Thomas chance at the death in a game recently, (I forget which one now, they’ve all merged into one). Last minute and Thomas effort goes right across the face of goal and out… now a good striker is on hand for a tap in there, they are anticipating, making the run and busting a gut to get into the six yard box. Ours just don’t do that.

Posted
9 minutes ago, Aus Fox said:

Is it? Or are our strikers just not getting in the right positions and making the right runs.

When you have a striker missing lots of chances it’s obvious, but you know it will come because they’re doing everything else right. Our guys just aren’t where they need to be.

Take Luke Thomas chance at the death in a game recently, (I forget which one now, they’ve all merged into one). Last minute and Thomas effort goes right across the face of goal and out… now a good striker is on hand for a tap in there, they are anticipating, making the run and busting a gut to get into the six yard box. Ours just don’t do that.

A good striker isn’t getting that chance because they’d be in the 6 yard box.

 

We create **** all for anybody, there’s been essentially no 1 v 1s, tap ins or cut backs. 
 

Daka basically got 1 in 2 per 90 on the championship last time. He’s barely even had a good chance let alone missed them. At worse is similar levels Carranza has made a career of poacher type finishes. It’s either all of these strikers aren’t cataclysmically shitter than they ever have been (it is possible tbh) or we just aren’t coached well in attack.

 

The strikers aren’t great but historically Cifuentes’ strikers average about 8 goals a season. His first Hammarby was the last time he had forwards do well.

 

If we dropped Kone into this this side (he’s playing partially as support striker/10 anyway), he’d have the same issue of us just not creating much at all.

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Posted
17 hours ago, Stadt said:

The lack of service is the problem. How many sitters have we missed? Carranza at Swansea when we 3-1 up is about the only one.

Yup, this is about it. 

 

It's the dogshit passive, uncreative football which is the issue. 

 

Not sure whether that's down to Marti's tactics or the players. I suspect it's a bit of both. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, murphy said:

I hope that Cheltenham's number 9 scores at the weekend.  I want that wooden spoon.  If we're going to be bad, let's be the best at being bad.  Second worst is worse than worst. 

 

 

You've no idea how much I hate Southampton for this.

Posted
4 hours ago, murphy said:

I hope that Cheltenham's number 9 scores at the weekend.  I want that wooden spoon.  If we're going to be bad, let's be the best at being bad.  Second worst is worse than worst. 

 

 

You'll never  we probably will sing that

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Posted (edited)
9 hours ago, Hollism said:

First I've heard about West Ham nicking the West Brom badge :ph34r:

Oops... Forgive me, my brain was fried after crunching stats for all 92 teams. I'll fix that in a bit lol

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